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SERGEANTMAJOR Posts: 6,415
6/19/13 5:55 P

For me the dreadmill is mind destroying boring while the environment outside is constantly changing. Personally I tell my clients that if they can read or watch TV while on the dreadmill they are not getting the quality workout they are seeking. A proper workout requires concentration and awareness, if you go robotic you are not paying attention to what is happening and are most likely not working as hard as you think you are.

I posted a link to an article on cardio mistakes here today, something which answers a lot of the questions which appear here on the boards.

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6/18/13 11:00 P

I totally understand. I used to run on the treadmill and was proud of myself for how long I could run (which really still wasn't that long, but as someone who wants to be a runner, I got pretty excited when I actually ran). I started running outside fairly recently because I am training for a 5K in October. Plus, down here in GA, it is HOT right now, which only makes it harder. I can't run for more than 4-5 minutes outside right now, but it is what it is. I would follow some of the advice already mentioned, and definitely try to get outside to run at least one day a week. If heat is a problem, try going out early in the morning or later in the evening. That's what I have to do, because 80-95 degree weather is just too hot for all that!

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6/18/13 10:59 P

I totally understand. I used to run on the treadmill and was proud of myself for how long I could run (which really still wasn't that long, but as someone who wants to be a runner, I got pretty excited when I actually ran). I started running outside fairly recently because I am training for a 5K in October. Plus, down here in GA, it is HOT right now, which only makes it harder. I can't run for more than 4-5 minutes outside right now, but it is what it is. I would follow some of the advice already mentioned, and definitely try to get outside to run at least one day a week. If heat is a problem, try going out early in the morning or later in the evening. That's what I have to do, because 80-95 degree weather is just too hot for all that!

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6/18/13 8:41 P

There are a number of differences between running on the treadmill and running outside:

* you get a small assist from the motion of the belt
* the incline on the treadmill generally stays at what you set it at, whereas outside running does involve some rises and falls, even on what appears to be generally level ground
* when running outside, you have to learn to pace yourself (ie. judge and manage your own speed). Treadmill running doesn't develop this skill.
* the treadmill is a softer surface with more 'give' than a concrete sidewalk - the impact can 'feel' harder on your body
* the treadmill is usually in an a/c'ed controlled environment. Running outside means dealing with climactic conditions. Running outside may involve more sweating, but that is what human bodies are designed to do - it is not gross (especially if you have a quick shower afterwards).

My advice would be to:
* slightly increase the incline of the treadmill (1-2% is generally reckoned to be the equivalent to running outside). This would address issues 1 and 2, although not 3 and 4.
* try to run outside whenever you can (at least once a week), and keep the treadmill for times when the weather is too unpleasant (both summer and winter)
* try and find some softer outside surfaces where possible (eg. trail running, on grass at a local park, your local HS may have a rubber track, etc)

M@L

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6/18/13 6:18 P

I am with you on this as I can run 60 minutes on the treadmill. When I get outside it is a different matter. The treadmill is a constant but running on the road is up and down constantly changing.

I am not sure if this is right but it is what I think



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6/18/13 4:22 P

W00T! Another Baltimore person! Yeah, running outside is different than running on a treadmill because the treadmill is pulling you along, you're not dealing with wind resistance or hills, etc.

Start using the treadmill with a 0.5-1.0% incline as this will simulate running outside more accurately. Also just run outside and start SLOW (I mean painfully, when will this block be over slow). I generally run 10 mins then walk one minute and always carry water with me. Have fun!

BRIDGET_GERMAIN Posts: 9
6/18/13 2:47 P

I mean, I don't necessarily WANT to run outside all the time, but it would be nice to actually do a 5k at some point (which I assume would be outside) and run with my fiance, who hates treadmills. I won't run outside by myself because I find it mind-numbingly boring--I like the treadmill because I can watch TV or read while I run and get it over with faster.

Mostly I guess I was surprised at the huge disparity between running inside and running outside, especially since I was able to do other weeks' workouts (like the run-10-walk-3-run-10) without much of a difference inside vs. outside.

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6/18/13 2:26 P

The treadmill provides a much lower intensity than solid ground; it absorbs much of the impact from your body hitting the ground, and it propels you forward. Do you use the incline feature on the treadmill? That helps add intensity to the treadmill work out and offset the propelling feature slightly. Honestly, you'd be better off training outside IF that's where you ultimately want to run. If you're fine running inside most of the time, then keep training on the treadmill, but take advantage of the hill and incline feature to get the most out of your workout.

BRIDGET_GERMAIN Posts: 9
6/18/13 2:02 P

I've been doing the Couch-2-5k training program and made it up to week 7, which is running for 25 minutes straight. I've been doing it largely at the gym on the treadmill because Baltimore is gross and soupy outside this time of year, and I always set it on 6mph for the run part so I'm doing a 10-minute mile. Doing 25 minutes at this pace has actually been a lot easier than I had anticipated.

But when I try to run outside, I can barely make it 10 minutes without finding it difficult to breathe and wanting to stop, and this is at a slower pace, too (probably about 5.3mph). What gives?

For what it's worth, I only run outside when it's cooler than about 70 degrees and warmer than 60-ish, and I don't have any physical problems that I know of that would make it difficult to run or breathe outside (no pollen allergies, etc).

Any insights to this would be appreciated!

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