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TINIERTINA Posts: 5,003
6/8/13 8:53 A

To a great extent, "fun" and "results" don't have to be mutually exclusive ...

Take, for instance, the cycling back into vogue of certain barre and spin classes ... and things like those Exhale Core Fusion dvds ...

LOSIN_IT4GOOD Posts: 588
6/8/13 2:00 A

She doesn't make exercise fun. It's all about the results with her.

BERRY4 SparkPoints: (146,379)
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6/8/13 12:59 A

I think she was fairly "clueless" about the lives that real people live UNITL she adopted 2 little kids. Now, all of a sudden, life doesn't happen on HER time table, whenever it suits her. She finally has to get outside her SELF and care about others in her charge. Kind of changes the equation!

SARAHEGILROY SparkPoints: (12,879)
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6/7/13 11:51 P

I don't hate her, but she does come off as very smug a lot of the time.

TINIERTINA Posts: 5,003
6/7/13 12:00 P

Totally agree YOGAGEEK and GRANDMAFRANNY ...

I'm doing exercise to try and stay healthy ... this means cardio, but not boot camp with a drill sergeant (and yoga/pilates can have their drill sergeants, too ... some of 'em even make it onto dvd and download ...)

WADINGMOOSE Posts: 1,044
6/7/13 11:03 A

I don't necessarily hate her, I'm just tired of seeing her face plastered on everything. If people find her motivating, that's great. But the more I see her face on everything the more I agree with others in this thread - it's all about the money.



MOTHERBOARDER SparkPoints: (124,007)
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6/7/13 10:12 A

♥ her

CHELHART SparkPoints: (2,598)
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6/7/13 9:30 A

I don't hate Jillian. I'm not a fan of the pills or anything like that. Here's the thing w/ me: I do WAY MORE with her DVDs than I do with anything else I've tried. I don't like the dance-type workouts because I'm uncoordinated. I kind of like the androgenous vibe.


YOGAGEEK SparkPoints: (2,592)
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6/7/13 5:49 A

MATTHEW0498: "she was quoted as saying something about never wanting to get pregnanent because it would ruin her body."

I don't hold this against her because she later explained that she has endometriosis (and I think PCOS?), which would require surgery to get pregnant, and that she'd not said all of that initially because she'd been taken aback at what is a very personal question. I completely understand and respect that.

That said, I don't like her as a trainer because I see her as more interested in earning money than in ensuring she provides safe workouts that promote a healthy lifestyle. I also don't like being yelled at when I'm exercising, and any implication that I'm not trying hard is more likely to make me go into a huff and give up than motivate me to work harder (because I'm petty like that).

GRANDMAFRANNY Posts: 5,753
6/5/13 2:12 P

BIGGEST LOSER, WHY ( YOU DO ) BUT WE ARE THE BIGGEST LOSER, RIGHT?

SIMONEKP Posts: 2,558
6/5/13 1:59 P

love her to death, yelling and all because I'm a yeller as well.

GRANDMAFRANNY Posts: 5,753
6/5/13 1:50 P

THIS IS WHAT I THINK. SHE MAY BE GOOD AT WHAT SHE DOES BUT AND EVERYBODY WANT'S A BODY LIKE HERS' .AT 72 3/4 YRS. OLD TO ME MY BODY IS FOR HEALTH " NOT SEXY". WHAT DO YOU THINK?

LILAFLOWER912 SparkPoints: (5,640)
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6/5/13 1:22 P

I don't hate her, but like many others have said, I just don't like her style. They even show her on HBO's "The Weight of the Nation" as a kind of what not to do. In my mind, she makes exercise a kind of "punishment" and something you have to scream and burn through. I DO think you need to push yourself, but I personally am going to be more likely to do exercises consistently that I enjoy and don't view as a punishment. I like to take my dog on long walks, do a Zumba video or an exercise video that is more encouraging. I LOVE my Coach Nichole videos I got with The Spark Solution book because she's motivating, pleasant, and encouraging.

JGIRL5799 Posts: 553
6/5/13 10:57 A

I watched the biggest looser faithfully and it was great motivation for me...

There was a lot of things Jillian did right, however, her yelling (thinking she is motivating) I do think is wrong and there are ways to motivate without that kind of abuse.

I do think she has the knowledge, however, I know nothing of her certification or professional experience... I don't think they would put them on a reality show if they didn't know something...That can be a huge law suit by ruining someone's life if they did things wrong and I don't think TV shows were meant to "loose or get sued".

But when she started getting into the pills and other "supplements," That is strictkly money driven.

I don't hate her, but she did loose my respect when she started being a "pill pusher"

Edited by: JGIRL5799 at: 6/5/2013 (10:59)
MRSSHANNONC1970 SparkPoints: (24,967)
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6/5/13 10:34 A

I think she is a sell out. all in it for the $$$$

MATTHEW0498 SparkPoints: (31,966)
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6/5/13 10:25 A

I'll admit I never thought much about her until last year when she was quoted as saying something about never wanting to get pregnanent because it would ruin her body. That didn't sit well with me. In addition, I don't like that she pushes the diet pills and such, I just think those are ways to make more money and not about helping people.

LRSILVER SparkPoints: (136,904)
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6/5/13 10:10 A

I have a lot of her DVDs. They are hard. Not for beginners, not for those over 30. I find she does too much talking and not enough demonstrating and showing modifications. I started the shred, and did half of the 30 days, I tried a yoga one too very hard. I am an intermediate exerciser now, so I might try her again.

I prefer to be encouraged when I work out. She focuses on results in 30 day. I am a long term exerciser. I want to be more toned and lose slowly; so I can keep it off. Not told that you will see a six pack when you finish 30 day program. Really?

I agree she should not advocate weight loss cleanses and pills.

JENSTRESS Posts: 2,219
6/5/13 9:08 A

I like her workouts, they motivate me to keep pushing, to dig deeper. I really enjoy that tough as nails bootcamp thing. But, I can't condone her diet pill pushing. However, The other BL trainer, Bob Harper, I don't agree with some of his "fads" too. He has "rules" for no carbs after lunch (really?) and Go to bed hungry? How is that a good thing? I mean, if I go to bed hungry, I won't sleep! I don't go to bed stuffed, but I'm not hungry!

FANNYFROST Posts: 153
5/29/13 2:13 P

Her voice, her style, her attitude on extreme weight loss all annoy me. Here tactics do not plan well for long term weight loss. I also just don't like her.

Keep in mind that who you enjoy in a workout can be very personal also. There are a lot trainers that get on my nerves and I just can't workout with them. Others really motivate me.

Its the same with gym classes though. I usually don't like the "popular" classes. I like less crowded and less annoying. That "rah, rah" approach annoys me totally.

TINIERTINA Posts: 5,003
5/29/13 11:54 A

Ahhh, to me, seriousness is okay--and motivating, even. Self-mortifying "make it burn!" drill-sergeant tactics are neither. Good for promoting lettuce binges in me; short-term results at best for me, with those.

If you are looking for eating disorder triggers, then go right ahead with the drill sergeant. Certainly, I even saw something I did not like on Extreme Weight Loss last night .. I guess the latest answer to TBL is still not a better kind of show ...

SANDRAMOMMY SparkPoints: (3,070)
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5/29/13 11:25 A

For me it is a personality issue, I just don't like her seriousness, I like to have a upbeat person on the videos or I lose interest.

TORIAMAE Posts: 1,080
5/28/13 3:50 P

First, in the early years (and I don't follow it closely enough to know what it's like now), the Biggest Loser was opaque about exactly how much exercise contestants were doing and what their calorie intake was. This resulted in my BFF (who is a huge fan!) struggling with feelings of inefficacy when she lost "only" two pounds per week. This was what started my dislike of Jillian: she is one of the faces of a show that sets standards for weight loss speed that aren't realistic for most people.

Then, she lost all of my respect because she put her face and name and celebrity behind lose weight quick supplements and cleanses.

I know nothing about her fitness certifications and have never done her videos, but there you have it. I'm just not a big fan of hers.

JCWIAKALA Posts: 347
5/28/13 12:41 P

I can't defend her putting her name on fad diet pills.

I will say that she comes across harsh and mean, but I'm a firm believer in "different strokes for different folks." We're all motivated differently and that's okay. So there are going to be different styles of trainers. She has helped people make some amazing transformations. I heard her explanation for treating people the way she does. It makes sense to me. The reason why it's so hard for people (like many of us) to change is because the effort it takes to change is uncomfortable. So she said she needs people to be more uncomfortable in their current (fat and unhealthy) situation than they would feel in order to make that change. Basically, she wants her contestants to hit rock bottom; otherwise, they may not make the necessary changes.

Overall, people in the Sparkpeople community aren't huge fans of TBL bc it's an unrealistic portrayal of weight-loss. So that's another reason why people aren't fans.

BARBANNA SparkPoints: (107,558)
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5/28/13 12:33 P

She is very phony, airbrushed and made to look gorgeous. She is in it for the money and that means deceiving a lot of people to think it's easy to look fabulous in no time. It takes a year or longer to get into shape for most people and then years extra to really look like she does. It's not easy and not at all what she is projecting with her quick and dirty exercises. The average person really can't do many of the moves she recommends.

Too fake... She just needs to be honest!

KURS10B Posts: 4,679
5/28/13 11:06 A

On 30 day shred, she spends half of her time poking and fondling the other girls. I get occasionally pointing out the correct form, but if you are leading the DVD, you should be leading, not standing around.

MOTHERBOARDER SparkPoints: (124,007)
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5/28/13 10:34 A

I ♥ Jillian!! own almost ALL her work-out dvds

DMJAKES Posts: 1,605
5/28/13 9:39 A

I don't hate her either. I was pretty neutral on her when she was on the Biggest Loser and just putting out the DVDs.....she didn't bother me, but she didn't really inspire me either. I find her DVDs to be OK as a stand-in workout when I don't have much time, the weather's bad, or the gym is closed---but the body does adapt to them and they lose their "magic" quickly if done regularly.

Once she started hawking the pills, fat burners, and cleanses, she lost all credibility for me. I think she's kind of like Dr. Oz......once the popularity surged, she started getting all kinds of offers, and the money was too tempting to pass up. I don't know about her certifications, so I can't really speak to that, but I sure hope she's got at least a basic trainer certification?

MELJONES3478 SparkPoints: (15,754)
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5/26/13 8:33 P

Like most people, I do not agree with her promoting diet pills. However, with that being said, I think she does great things. When she endorses a product she is getting her name to people who may not otherwise know her and in turn they may purchase her book or DVD. That my help them change their lifestyle and that is a good thing. She is not as harsh on her DVD's. I think she said it best on the most recent season of the BL...she said "If I have to wake up every morning to be away from my family to help you, then you better work your butt off". I think she is harsh when she needs to be...and obviously she produces results...not to mention she was overweight and knows that it takes hard work & determination to change your life.

ALYSSAR2012 SparkPoints: (10,907)
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5/26/13 7:30 P

I don't hate her at all. I love her tough love style. I'd be a little intimidated if she were training me, but I think she does what she does out of what she feels is best for her clients. She has her "Bob moments" on occasion, so I could deal with her as a trainer I think.

Edit: As I'm reading the past responses, I'm like "Oh, I forgot about that!" I did find it very hypocritical when she started selling weight loss pills and such. When I saw the first advertisement my jaw hit the floor. I think all of them do things like that now. (They don't necessarily sell weight loss pills, of course. She's in it much deeper than they are.) I try to just look at her training stuff, as I don't care for diet pills and such. It does speak volumes about what her true motive could be, but again, I love her training style on the show.

Edited by: ALYSSAR2012 at: 5/26/2013 (19:36)
TACDGB Posts: 6,132
5/26/13 7:24 P

I don't hate her because I don't know her. I do hate the way she treats people when she trains them. I do know that from watching the biggest loser all these years that I have seen her have a heart on occasion. under that abusive loud mouth of hers is a loving heart.

SAK1957JWK SparkPoints: (4,154)
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5/26/13 5:51 P

Personality, rude! emoticon

BMARTIN72 Posts: 11
5/26/13 5:50 P

I have to agree on her personality leaves a lot to be desired and makes it hard to absorb her. Information

ANNEMARGO Posts: 450
5/26/13 5:18 P

I don't hate her, I just don't find her the kind of person whose presence I want in my life. Even if that presence is just virtual. Her on air personality is kind of like nails on a blackboard to me, and some of her advice on exercises seem questionable. She's said on her podcast that she really doesn't like exercise, and it shows in her joyless, funless workouts. I, however, do like exercise very much, so I gravitate toward instructors like Cathe Friedrich, who present tough but enjoyable workouts.

Edited by: ANNEMARGO at: 5/26/2013 (17:21)
ERICADURR Posts: 241
5/26/13 11:37 A

I've done several of her workout DVDs (mostly on rainy days or days where the gym is closed--not as my sole fitness plan) and didn't find her attitude to be harsh or overly-demanding. However, I do agree that I don't respect her selling diet supplements after constantly hearing her talk about there being no magic bullet. I find it hypocritical at best.

ARCHIMEDESII SparkPoints: (142,818)
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5/26/13 7:01 A

When I watched the first couple of seasons of the Biggest Loser, I thought she was pretty cool. In her book, Making the Cut, she made it quite clear that in order to lose weight, a person needed to reform their eating habits. That they needed to eat wholesome foods, organic when possible, and that there was no quick way to lose. In the book and on the show, she routinely would say that pills don't work and that you'd have to learn to eat right and get rid of the junk.

Then, I guess the money started rolling in. Because a couple of years ago, I was shocked when I happened across pictures of her hawking three different PILLS i.e. a fat burner, a colon cleanse and an appetite suppressant. Wait ? Didn't JM say in her book that diet pills don't work ?

And that's when she lost me. The minute I saw her hawking those pills is the minute I decided she wasn't interested in helping people lose weight. She was only interested in the bottom line.


Edited by: ARCHIMEDESII at: 5/26/2013 (07:02)
WENDIBUGG Posts: 655
5/26/13 5:02 A

I liked watching her on TBL, but I've only watched one season of it and have never done any of her workouts. If she really isn't trained in certain areas then she shouldn't be profiting off of it.

TINIERTINA Posts: 5,003
5/25/13 7:46 P

Prevention and Health magazines love her. I ignore the stuff written by and about her (and I've a subscription to the latter; and devour special editions put out by the former), not a fan of The Biggest Loser, either. No knowledge of her certifications or lack of them, BUT, I go with (what's left of) my gut (long story--well, I'd not been very attached to it, anyway)--

"You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar ..."

FIELDWORKING SparkPoints: (26,217)
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5/25/13 12:19 P

She doesn't seem to be too encouraging in her attitude. She comes across as more of a drill sergeant. I guess that works for some people. If I'm going to go with a workout dvd, I'll go with Billy Blanks. I may not be able to do the actual taebo yet, but he has other dvd's that focus on cardio and bodyweight strength training. Additionally, his attitude is more encouraging and enthusiastic.

LUNAMEOWER SparkPoints: (1,763)
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5/25/13 2:00 A

That's been pretty much my attitude as well, once I saw her pushing weight loss pills or whatnot I lost a lot of respect for her, she shouldn't be getting people her look up to her on the quick weight loss bandwagon, I don't hate her, just don't respect her currently.

CORTNEY-LEE SparkPoints: (54,688)
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5/25/13 12:34 A

she is a snake oil salesman - fat burners and weight loss pills? give me a break!!!

LADYSTARWIND SparkPoints: (27,012)
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5/25/13 12:34 A

My brother speaks wise words......."follow the money".......

I respect those who earn their living teaching Physical Fitness legitimately; I don't think ANY of the TV "Reality" shows, nor anyone associated with them are "legitimate".......

TOKENBLACKGIRL Posts: 147
5/25/13 12:24 A

I love her workouts. They get me off my butt and that's half the battle.

BLUEJEAN99 Posts: 1,534
5/25/13 12:07 A

her style on the biggest loser was very extreme ... good for ratings maybe but it didn't seem very healthy, physically or mentally

ONLINEASLLOU SparkPoints: (50,381)
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5/24/13 11:03 P

Her style of "encouragement" seems more like attacks/violence/abuse to me. I don't let people abuse me.

Her workouts don't have much sense of pleasure or fun in them. I am not naturally attracted to physical exercise, but yet realize that I will need to exercise regularly for the rest of my life. I need for it to be a positive experience for me to motivate me to do it every day -- not an experience in which my body and psyche feel "beaten up."

PRACTICINGPEACE Posts: 434
5/24/13 10:44 P

I think she's a terrific trainer on her workout programs. She provides clear instructions, talks about the impact on your body, suggests modifications, and encourages me to give my all! I think she's great!

DRAGONCHILDE SparkPoints: (57,411)
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5/24/13 9:10 P

Hate is a really strong word, but I"m not crazy about her. She's basically a scammer and a faker. She has little to no certifications, and she's intent on selling supplements, pills, products, and things she has no business putting her name on. Kettle bell, yoga... none of these are things she has ANY training on. She's not a registered dietician, and yet her name's on a "fat-burning supplement". She's a predator preying on the unwary and the trusting.

That doesn't mean she has nothing to offer, but she's overhyped and not to be trusted.

www.examiner.com/article/fitness-experts-s
lam-jillian-michaels-she-s-an-actress-
not-a-trainer


healthyliving.blog.ocregister.com/2010/10/
28/expert-weighs-in-on-jillians-kettle
bell-kerfuffle/25156/


This one has links to some videos which show EXACTLY what's wrong with her form.
thisjourneyismyown.wordpress.com/2010/10/1
3/jillian-michaels-pisses-off-the-kett
lebell-community/


Edited by: DRAGONCHILDE at: 5/24/2013 (21:13)
SERGEANTMAJOR Posts: 6,418
5/24/13 9:08 P


Primarily because she is not what she claims to be, she is far and away not the toughest female trainer around just the loudest and most obnoxious. She has issued workout DVDs on topics for she is not certified and in fact does them wrong. If you want a qualified and quality female trainer please check out Rachael Cosgrove or any RKC certified female trainer.

BRONXBABE SparkPoints: (100,463)
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5/24/13 7:07 P

Her voice irritates me.

ZORBS13 SparkPoints: (105,004)
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5/24/13 5:55 P

because she tried to capitalise in on fitness modalities that she knows nothing about and does it with terrible, injury inducing form.

DESCHROMA Posts: 180
5/24/13 5:34 P

Just genuinely curious. :)

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