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146 1/29/13 7:35 P
One thing I am doing different this year is I'm only eating whole wheat at breakfast. That way my body has all day to burn off the calories. Once I lose my weight and start maintenance I'm going to slowly add in more carbs but I'm going to try to go for more natural ones like oatmeal, brown rice and more fruits. I feel like, for my body, eating a lot of the whole wheat products like bread, english muffins, SBD bars that my cravings do start to increase.
1/29/13 3:42 P
Everyone is different, but for me personally. I feel more satisfied when I eat bread and wheat products.
I have never tried to eliminate wheat from my diet. So I don't know if that would help weight loss. Possibly not since when I don't have some type of bread or grain. It leaves me hungry and not satisfied.
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791 1/29/13 1:46 P
I was able to lose weight much more easily after cutting wheat products. It cut back on my cravings and numerous other health issues.
I had found that when I ate a sandwich (whole wheat bread) for lunch, I would have plenty of room for chips, salad, mid-afternoon snack, and still be craving more food. However, when I took the same amount of sandwich filling (meat, cheese, veggies, or tuna salad, etc) and put them on a big salad or even wrapped in lettuce, I would stay full for longer (yes, a lot fewer calories were more filling!) That's when I knew something was wrong...
I do now eat some oatmeal, rice, brown rice pasta, and corn tortillas - which do not have the same effect on my hunger that whole wheat bread or pasta have. I also eat potatoes & sweet potatoes for carbs, along with other root veggies like beets, turnips, carrots.
I cut out bread, and noodles, and haven't eaten any wheat for a while now, while eating low carb. Amazingly, I lost 147 lbs of water weight, Kylar..lol
It is true that you will get an initial weight loss due to a diuretic effect, and the reverse is true too. Another reason though is the things they have done to bread. They add sugar to some brands, and lots of salt. You will need some salt to make bread rise, but note the place in the list of ingredients. If it is near the top of the list, you have a lot of salt, which makes you hold water. Sugar is listed on the label, so you can compare brand to brand.
As it stands though, bread is a huge trigger food, and cause of weight gain for a lot of people. I have no idea if it is just wheat, or bread in general, but if I cut it, I lose, if I don't, I gain.
As a low carber, I am often listening to an argument about the types of foods, and the quantity of foods. Regular dieters say a calorie is a calorie, and just stay in range. Low carbers say, avoid X foods, and lose.
I think they are both right. One is the cause of the other. By cutting the carbs, low carbers can stick to the right amount of calories. Regular dieters can lose weight on their diet, but because they get cravings from certain foods, like wheat bread, they overeat.
If a healthy weight is the goal, and a certain food is causing you to overeat, then simply removing that one food will let you eat in the proper range. Almost all trigger foods have carbs in them, so it is just a matter of finding out if any are affecting you. This is why many people eat whole wheat, and do well, and others can't eat any without adding 5 lbs. Some people have no issue with wheat.
Stop looking for a one size fits all solution people. If you lose weight eating wheat, it is good for you, if not, it isn't.
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1/29/13 12:12 P
Just gotta say to people that the reason it "looks" like you are losing more weight when eliminating wheat is that you are losing a little water weight. Your fat loss is staying the same. Then it looks like you "gain" weight when you eat some toast because your body goes back to its normal level of water retention.
As someone who has had to cut (this is drastically different than lose) weight, dropping the bread and carbs is the easiest way to drop water mass. My muscle and fat levels remain the same, but 3 days of low sodium and no wheat drops my number on the scale 5 whole pounds. That's all you're seeing there. 1g of carbs bonds to 3 grams of water. So ditching 25g carbs (2 slices bread) drops 100grams, almost a quarter pound of water retention less. But then your weight goes right back up once you eat anything with carbs to hold water again. Not a viable weight loss answer, just useful for cutting to make weight.
I've lost 60 pounds and have been maintaining for a few months with eating plenty of whole grains. These include oatmeal in the morning, sandwiches for lunch, and rice and even pasta in the evenings. I just watch the portion sizes because for me, carbs are the easiest thing to over eat on. Hope this info helped shed a little light.
Tl;Dr- not eating wheat causes you to lose a little water weight, not extra fat. Caloric deficit, however you achieve it, causes you to lose actual weight.
I have also lost almost 100 pounds and I don't shy away from wheat. I buy 100% whole wheat most of the time -- if I can't find 100%, I buy something with as much fiber in it as possible. I look for pasta containing 100% whole grain flour, but I do find the pasta makers fudge the issue a little with descriptions like "nutri-grain" or "multi-grain". I guess it's like everything else, you have to read the labels carefully.
Grains, including wheat, certainly have a place in a healthy diet for me. I do miss the days when the nutritional advice was to eat 8 servings of grains a day! But even now grains are supposed to be one-quarter of the plate in a healthy meal and I have no problem meeting that quota. :)
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905 1/29/13 11:39 A
Yeah, exactly, my hunger and cravings are worse and I do find that my abdomen seems bloated on days when I eat more than just my 1/4 cup of All Bran Buds in terms of wheat products. I haven't read the book either and don't really think I have any gluten issues, just noticing how different I feel with/without the wheat.
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well i don't know about the book. But I do know that wheat products do make me want more of them. When I eat meats dairy and fruits veggies corn and rice I don't have horrible hunger or cravings at all. But when I eat wheat I do. But I also have a digestive issue with them so it is possible that for me the effect is amplified.
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1/29/13 11:28 A
I lost almost 100 lbs eating the recommended amounts of whole grains, including whole wheat.
The wheat belly book contains a lot of misinformation and pseudoscience.
I try to really limit my wheat (whole wheat products) after reading the book, Wheat Belly...which describes how damaging the genetically modified wheat of today is..and how it causes us to want more, and more...abundance is clearly my problem. I have been eating brown rice and quino...and other rice products.
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905 1/29/13 11:02 A
Just wondering if anyone has anything to share regarding whole wheat foods and their success or challenges in weight loss. I only ask because I seem to have noticed a bit of a pattern of more reliable weekly losses when I limit or eliminate wheat products. I am hungrier though. I know my body needs more complex carbs that those that I get when I do a high protein, low carb, low wheat program. Every healthy eating program that is well balanced does advocate plenty of whole grains for an active person (which I am) so I really don't want to eliminate them entirely.
What other whole grains are accessible and easy enough to prepare in meals and snacks? I do love bread and usually only eat ww, but would love to know if anyone has found alternative 100% whole grain breads, crackers and/or pastas?
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