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BLUENOSE63
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2/16/13 7:08 A

Good explaination Anarie.



ANARIE
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2/16/13 12:30 A

I didn't see the thread in question, but in my experience, political threads tend to be left alone until someone says something really offensive, at which point they're quickly zapped. It doesn't seem to matter which way the original post leans; someone will come along and say something really beyond the pale and spoil it for everyone. Not everyone can offer their opinion like an intelligent adult. My guess is that that's what happened here-- there was an offensive remark, followed by outraged responses, so the thread went bye-bye.



RIET69
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2/15/13 1:36 P

I guess I was born and raised in a much more liberal country than some people here are comfortable with. I would not want to offend anyone, but for some of us, our political beliefs are bound up with our values, as someone else said. It is hard to always be sure to keep everything on a level where everyone feels comfortable. I personally love to communicate with people who think differently from me.



PAPASNAPDRAGON
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2/15/13 8:05 A

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DRAGONCHILDE
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2/15/13 8:00 A

The reason is right in the community guidelines (which we all agreed to when signing up for our accounts.

www.sparkpeople.com/resource/motivation_ar
ticles.asp?id=349


"No posts on the Message Boards that are political or religious in nature.
Those discussions should be reserved for SparkTeams related to these topics, since sensitive topics often cause controversy and negativity that we do our best to avoid in our positive and supportive Community."

You are welcome to join a political team and discuss these matters to your hearts' content, but unfortunately, they're simply not appropriate for the message boards here. It's not about censorship, it's about keeping the discussions in an appropriate location.



MOM362
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2/14/13 9:57 P

I think it is important to be able to discuss politics or anything else with substance whether people have the same views or different ones, how else do we learn? You can hear someone's point of view on something and entertain the ideas, even if you don't accept them or feel the same way.



ZENANDNOW
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2/14/13 7:21 P

I agree with both PCVCHRISTINE and SUEACCT...and my original post stands. There certainly are no accurate indicators which would tell any member here that they are more left or right in their political views.

I saw no malice in the deleted thread, and I have to question the Moderator of this forum or any other administrative functionaries who feel it necessary to delete threads simply because of a perceived threat to the overall "wholesome goodness" of SP (or because of, perhaps, a member who felt slighted in some way regarding the thread topic). That's all I'm saying.... emoticon



KJFITNESSDUDE
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2/14/13 7:10 P

RE: Right Leaning SP Members & the best criteria on earth:

I have been here long enough to observe and notice comments made in opposition of left wing ideas and not so much on right wing ideas. This is, of course, my opinion (I should've said that earlier).

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SUEACCT
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2/14/13 7:03 P

I think of this portion of the cafe to be open...yet have seen other friendly topics deleted...

When we only talk about what will offend no one, there is not much to say!



PCVCHRISTINE
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2/14/13 6:50 P

I'm wondering by what criteria you know that there are more right-leaning Sparkers than left-leaning? I don't remember being asked my political affiliation when I registered.

In retrospect, it's probably better to stick to a no-politics rule, but I would have liked to see the rest of the replies from the thread. While politics might not always be polite conversation, for many of us our political beliefs are tied in with our most deeply held values. It's not always something we can leave at the door, ya know?



PINK_GRAY
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2/14/13 2:52 P

Obama! :)



TURTLESDOVE
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2/14/13 2:38 P

You are right Irish, politics do cause arguments. My know it all supervisor fills me in everyday as to what he thinks about the economy and how things are getting better, then he has the nerve to tell me, "Amy, when you start making more money, you need to get two of your teeth straightened" The nerve of him. If I had any you know what, I would have told him, "well why don't you give me the money, and I'll be more than happy to get my teeth fixed" I'm still fired up about it!



RIET69
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2/14/13 2:37 P

I thought it was an interesting question and I had just responded when the thread was gone. But just for the record, I loved the speech. I thought it showed great foresight about the environment and educating young children.




IRISHFANUH87
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2/14/13 2:23 P

I get that this is a cafe for chit-chat, but if you want to talk politics, go to a political website. This website is about motivating people to get healthy, politics just cause arguments.



BUNNYKICKS
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2/14/13 1:59 P

Probably a pretty significant amount of Sparkers are from other countries as well......

I am happy to forego political discussion on this nutrition-oriented forum. If i want to talk politics, there's Reddit /r/politics.



KJFITNESSDUDE
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2/14/13 1:56 P

It doesn't matter if you or I started a political thread, they will delete this or any other as they see fit.

Also, freedom of speech doesn't apply here even though it's on the public internet SP still reserves the right to delete any thread. Also, hopefully you two understand that SP and most of its members are right leaning, not left.



ZENANDNOW
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2/14/13 1:25 P

I did not start any political thread on SparkPeople, thank you very much. And anytime there happens to be one that I am interested in, I will certainly post a comment in such thread. Exactly right, turtlesdove!


Edited by: ZENANDNOW at: 2/14/2013 (13:25)


TURTLESDOVE
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2/14/13 1:24 P

freedom of speech? Yeah, right! Only when you agree!



KJFITNESSDUDE
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2/14/13 1:19 P

No political threads allowed in Saprk Cafe'

It's SPs right to delete anything thread they wish, it's their website.

This thread will ALSO be deleted and you & I will will get a friendly reminder to not post political threads in the cafe'.

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ZENANDNOW
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2/14/13 1:16 P

It really ticks me off that this site is SO politically-correct and overly sensitive. Always afraid of hurting someone's feelings or stepping on toes...PLEASE!! I thought it was a nice thread, and for those who have negative things to say abouty Obama's State of the Union speech, they certainly don't have to post anything. But to delete the entire thread is very disappointing indeed. Can you say CENSORSHIP? emoticon

Edited by: ZENANDNOW at: 2/14/2013 (13:17)


 
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