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YACHTSMAN
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9/1/11 5:09 P

I personally avoid wheat and am healthier for it test wise, and feeling wise also. I think though it is up to the individual. Not everyone is the same. Some will have trouble with wheat, and others not so much.

I have not received my copy of Dr. Davis's new book. Imagine it will arrive soon, and looking forward to reading it.

Along with the book, Dr. Davis does have a blog where he talks about his research for his Wheat Belly book and his experience with patients that eat wheat free that I enjoy checking out.

www.wheatbellyblog.com/



DIETITIANBECKY
Posts: 26,371
9/1/11 4:57 P

I understand your frustration within the nutrition fiield. Much of the confusion comes from websites and individuals giving nutrition advice that is not based on scientific evidence. Yes, as reserach continues there will be modifications in eating guidelines. But the real trouble areas are when eating advice is given that is not based on well controlled, peer reviewed nutrition research. Sparkpeople really tries to backup their guidelines, articles and resources with the most up-to-date nutrition guidelines. Hope you find our site helpful.
SP Registered Dietitian Becky



MANDIETERRIER1
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9/1/11 4:38 P

I think wheat is good, for me personally.

Now if someone is gluten intolerant or has some type of allergy, or sensitivity. Then they should 'not' consume it.

Edited by: MANDIETERRIER1 at: 9/1/2011 (16:41)


AYRWYN
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9/1/11 4:08 P

Unless there is a medical reason I don't see why something, anything really, should be cut entirely out of a diet. I also don't think that because something worked for someone else that its going to work for the next person either. I guess the best way to find out is to have this discussion with my doctor. I just wish everything wasn't so conflicting and the information we get was accurate and not ever changing like New England's weather. It seems that I read something here and another site says something completely different. Eat whole grains because its heart healthy...don't eat whole grains because its makes you fat and sick. Don't eat chocolate...eat chocolate because its healthy. Eat eggs ... don't eat eggs. Don't drink coffee...drink coffee it has benefits. I was much less confused when I could eat what i wanted.



DANNIELLEMARIE
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9/1/11 2:45 P

Even as someone who is gluten-free (due to gluten intolerance and probable but unconfirmed celiac disease) as well as nearly 100% grain-free (due to personal choice) I'm hesitant to label wheat as "bad".

"Bad" is a pretty subjective label and whether wheat is a benefit or detriment to you is a really personal thing...and it may vary depending on what your nutritional/medical needs are at any given time.

I wouldn't go so far as to call eliminating it a "fad" either. People who choose to eat this way continue it because it has made a dramatic difference in their quality of life.

You say you're newly diagnosed as diabetic. Perhaps a conversation with your doctor (who can perhaps refer you to a dietician/nutritionist?) is a good idea. From what I know of diabetes, especially as it relates to weight loss, reeling in carbs is a good starting place. I'm not saying you necessarily need to go "low carb" or eliminate grains or anything like that but controlling how many carbs you take in is a part of it. I don't have diabetes but those I know with it usually benefit from increasing the amount of produce they eat and decreasing the amount of grain...to whatever degree their doctor recommends and they find they can live with.

Often when we find ourselves with a significant amount of weight to lose it's in part due to choosing too many grain-based carbs and not enough fruits and veggies. When I was at my heaviest I think I lived on noodles and bread and snack cakes and went weeks at a time without eating veggies (unless you count the broccoli specks in the alfredo noodle packet lol). I don't want to assume that you are where I was....but I did want to toss out some food for though.

By cutting back on grains dramatically the issues I was having became really clear. I chose to focus on produce as my source of carbs because they pack the most nutrition per calorie. Since I was restricting calories in an effort to lose weight it made sense to me that filling my plate with the most nutrient dense carbs was a good plan...especially since I was being treated for cancer during my weight loss journey. Somewhere along the line I feel head over heels in love with vegetables. I enjoy the meals I make with them and I love the fact that I get to eat good sized portions of food since they're so low in calories.

Some people are motivated by drastic change and clear "rules" for their eating. Others are completely turned off by that approach. Because of that I am really careful to never say "do what I did because it will work for you, too". Going wheat or grain-free might make a huge difference for you like it did for me. Then again it might not. Either way it's a huge change and might be overwhelming in the midst of a new diagnosis.

So, yeah, I'd talk to your Dr. about nutritional counseling. And if you're looking for a good place to start perhaps approaching things from the angle of making sure you meet your protein goal for the day and aiming for a certain # of veggie/fruit servings per day (5 is the suggested minimum, I believe). Doing those two things combined with keeping overall calories in range will automatically change how much wheat/grain is consumed in a day without having to put much thought into it.

Best of luck to you!

Edited by: DANNIELLEMARIE at: 9/1/2011 (14:48)


JENG829
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9/1/11 2:44 P

Frustrating that wheat-free diets are being treated as a fad, both by the public and also health/diet experts. Many people find relief from chronic illness as well as minor health issues & weight problems by going wheat-free, and as far as I've read there is no danger in giving up wheat for a short time to see if that applies to you.

Frankly, it's very annoying to have someone saying you "have to" give up wheat... Just as annoying to say "don't unless you are celiac". Perhaps I'm just ultra-sensitive as I am one of the many who was told over & over to make whole grains the base of my diet, and that I tested negative for celiac so any reaction to wheat is just my imagination. Well, after getting fatter & sicker, I decided to ignore the dietician and doctors and gave up wheat. I have never felt better. Maybe this is not your situation or anyone else's, but all you can do is try it if you want to and see how you feel. Then do what works for you, not what any friends or strangers tell you. Only you know how you feel.

The book referenced is written by a cardiologist who has researched the effects of wheat on his patients. I'm definitely going to buy it, as it is has information on how wheat is different today than it was 50 yrs ago due to genetic modification and also case studies from Dr Davis's practice.

Please stop calling gluten/wheat free a fad. It's no more a fad than going dairy-free or meat-free. And if it could make a sick person well, why discourage it????



EMILYMARTIS
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9/1/11 2:33 P

I agree with Becky, too.

Your gut instinct to doubt this info is correct.



REDSHOES2011
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9/1/11 2:13 P

Agree with Becky 100% on this one.. emoticon

Edited by: REDSHOES2011 at: 9/1/2011 (14:14)


DIETITIANBECKY
Posts: 26,371
9/1/11 2:04 P

Wheat being bad for the majority of the population is inaccurate nutrition information and the latest weight loss fad.

There are people who do need to avoid wheat and/or the gluten in the wheat. For example: people with celiac disease, gluten intolerance or allergies to gluten or wheat. But going gluten or wheat free appears to be the latest trend as well. As this trend catches on, more people without celiac disease or gluten intolerance also are trying to go gluten-free or wheat-free, often in hopes of shedding extra pounds.

Although cutting wheat/gluten-containing foods out of the diet without replacing them with gluten-free alternatives will likely result in weight loss - just from simply eating less food and calories - this is not a recommended way to achieve sustainable weight loss.

In fact, there is no nutritional advantage for a person not sensitive to wheat or gluten to restrict them in the diet. Going wheat-free or gluten-free diet is not inherently healthier than a diet that includes wheat and gluten---and without appropriate food replacements...it can be nutritionally damaging.

SP Registered Dietitian Becky





AYRWYN
Posts: 13
9/1/11 9:03 A

I've recently had people telling me that wheat is not good for you. That I should eliminate it from my diet altogether and that if I do I will lose weight and feel healthier. A book they are using to show me this is:
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This is completely contradicting everything I have ever learned about wheat. If it's true how come I have never heard of it before. Please help me! I'm a fairly new diabetic who is desperately try to figure out how to eat right so I can be healthy and the conflicting information is confusing me.



 
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