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LILLY_ANN SparkPoints: (3)
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1/16/13 4:03 P

If you really want to do something, you'll find a way. If you don't, you'll find an excuse.

DMJAKES Posts: 1,635
1/16/13 3:51 P

I agree with the previous poster who said you need to get counseling for the ED before you do anything else. If your relationship with food is that skewed, it's not going to matter if the meds are causing your weight gain or not.

Why bother? Think about this---if you continue on this path, where will you be in a year, or 5 years?

BERKANA_T Posts: 138
1/16/13 3:41 P

One of the greatest things about SP is the fact that there are so many total strangers who are more than willing to step and provide ideas, advice, and support. I personally owe a lot to many of the strangers here who have been so supportive, and who continue to be supportive as things evolve for me.

A lot of people have already posted about the negative statement you've used - "I can't..." You know what, I used to say that as well. I'm sure most, if not all, of the people here have said it at one time or other in regards to weightloss. I have a very dear friend who once told me that the only losers in life were the people who didn't try. Let me tell you, that was quite the slap in the face for me. I stopped saying "I can't..." The phrases "I won't, because I don't bloody well want to" or "I'm going to try" have replaced that phrase in my vocabulary.

I also have medical problems, and I know darn well I'm not the only one. Even with medical problems, we've lost weight. Believe me, that was a convenient excuse for me as well, for many years. It may not be easy to admit to yourself that it is an excuse, but really, that's what it is. Medical problems may make things more difficult, or make it take a little longer, but that's all they do.

You've asked what the point is? Why should you try? The truth is, you're young. You can accept things as they are now, knowing that your future will be full of compounding medical problems, or you can change things. Since you're on SP and asking for help, I'm guessing that you want to change things, but you're just frustrated as heck that the changes you've made haven't seemed to make a positive difference.

So change the things that you've changed. I busted my backside for three months doing a bootcamp class. I counted, obsessively, every single calorie that passed my lips and dealt with the hunger pains when I was silly and went over my calorie allotment for the day. In three months, I lost 1 lb. So I quit! All that effort, pain, and paranoia was not worth the 1 lb loss. And that was just a typical go round on the weight loss merry go round for me.

This time around (believe me, I've started over more times than I want to count), I did things different. I did NOT bust my backside working out. I added in exercise gradually. I did NOT count calories or restrict my calorie range. Instead I focused on making BETTER choices than the ones I had been making. For example, having tomato based sauce on my pasta rather than the heavy cream based sauces I tended to gravitate to...choosing the small latte rather than the extra large...things like that. Small decisions that added up over time.

So far, it's working. I'm averaging a loss of 1 lb per week, which may not be fast enough for some people, but it's good enough for me. I'm not suggesting that you do what I've done. What I'm saying is, if it isn't working, then change it! Don't give up...just make a change.

And one other thing...I find that small changes are easier to live with than big ones. Make one small change in what you're doing with it for a while...then make another with it for a while...and so on. It might take a while to see a difference, but you WILL see a difference.

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1/16/13 2:38 P

Thank you :)

BLUETIGERCLAWS1 SparkPoints: (6,604)
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1/16/13 2:10 P

I think part of this is that you are talking yourself out of doing what it takes.. I am pretty well the same, I can work out and eat right and the only thing that happens is that I gain weight or stay the same. I too have an eating problem which doesnt help but its still possible. You also can still eat the food you like just have to substitue certain things, if you like mac and cheese, make your own, use wheat noodles and low fat (sodium, etc.) cheese. If you like cheeseburgers, just use lean beef or turkey or make sliders and eat slowly and less more often. Drink lots of water and work on how you exercise. If you do it right you will feel it. I took a bootcamp class and the difference between doing it myself and being shown how to do it was night and day. There is the internet and a lot of community centres offer cheap classes and/or free classes. Just look around your area.

CLOUDYBLUE72 SparkPoints: (0)
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1/16/13 1:15 P

I don't understand how I have a bad attitude. I literally cannot do it. Between health problems and the meds i'm on, I can't

SNOWJESTER SparkPoints: (29,896)
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1/16/13 12:30 P

With your attitude you're right, you can't. Sorry for trying to help.

CLOUDYBLUE72 SparkPoints: (0)
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1/16/13 11:51 A

SnowJester, you aren't listening. I wasn't seeing no changes. I was GAINING weight.

BLUEJEAN99 Posts: 4,704
1/16/13 1:58 A

i am in chronic pain in part b/c I never exercised and was very overweight thru my life. I wish I could go back in time and have taken care of my body properly. Now I am in pain all the time and isolated. I can;t work and have few relationships. That is the point. Safeguard your future. The food never solved my problems. It just gave me new problems. Please take care of yourself before it's too late. And do some core strengthening to protect your back! emoticon

SNAFUKEN SparkPoints: (15,289)
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1/16/13 1:47 A

Your Sparkpage says you are 19 years old and 255lbs.
Thats a good age to embark on a lifestyle change.Don't wait till you get to be an old fart like me and add a whole bunch of medical issues into the mix.(I'm serious here)

The caloric math logic below proves you have to lose weigh consuming 1500 cal or so as you say you did for a number of weeks.

Food for thought ..
(Body Weight in Pounds/2.2 X 21.6) X Activity Level = Total calories needed for present weight.Stay with me..... emoticon

Sedentary (little or no exercise): 1.2 Light Active (easy exercise 1-3 days/week): 1.375 Moderate Active (exercise 3-5 days/week): 1.55 Very Active (intense exercise 6-7 days/week): 1.725 Extreme Active (intense exercise + physical job): 1.9
You are 255lbs so... emoticon

255 divided by 2.2 X 21.6 x 1.375 (moderate exercise)=3442 calories. emoticon

There must be something fishy in how you are tracking your food intake because if you require over 3400 cal to maintain your present weight and you say you consume far less have to loose . It's basically if the food (fuel) you take in is less than the energy (exercise) you expend your body will get the energy from stored fuel from your body which will cause weight loss..
I just googled around and found this site to get the formulas above.

Is weight loss easy?? No way !!
Is it worth it ??? Yes way .

SNOWJESTER SparkPoints: (29,896)
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1/16/13 1:26 A

OK you only stuck with it for 2 months. You want to lose 100 lbs...Did you really think it was going to happen in two months? In my opinion, you probably quit right when you would have started to notice some changes.

Good about making your food tracker public. Tomorrow track everything and we'll see if we can help. Just make honestly tracking your EVERYTHING you eat tomorrows goal, don't worry about dieting. One day at a time, ok?

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1/15/13 11:31 P


CLOUDYBLUE72 SparkPoints: (0)
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1/15/13 11:13 P

Thanks, everyone :) The problem with a dieticion (Ok I cannot spell that word) is I don't have insurance, and I have no money. I can't even afford my bills... I will try to eat a new food every day, my problem is when I see it, I can't eat it. If someone sneaks something into the food (like mushrooms) i'll eat it and like it... Until I know they're there. Which is where the disorderr part comes in. I stayed at 1200-1500 calories for a couple months.

I'll figure out how to make my food tracker public in the morning.

Thanks again!

SNOWJESTER SparkPoints: (29,896)
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1/15/13 10:13 P

How long did you stay at 1200-1500 calories a day? The weights not going to come off overnight. I have a problem with patience and get discouraged when I watch these weight loss shows and people are losing these massive amounts of weight, but that's not reality.

Go back to 1200-1500, or whatever spark recommends and stick with it. You love pizza, well try ordering a cheeseless veggie pizza. They're good! You said moneys tight but a bag of lentils and brown rice cost less and lasts longer than a pizza, so that excuse doesn't cut it. And I say that as someone whose also broke.

And talk to you dr about the meds and see if there are alternatives or if they're truly necessary. Also go for a checkup and make sure everything is working the way it should.

You can lose weight. You have to start believing that.

OMALLEYC Posts: 607
1/15/13 9:49 P

"I love pizza, hamburgers, mac n cheese... But that obviously doesn't help."

Well that is a start! You know, with a little alteration you can still have pizza, hamburgers & Mac n cheese. Try starting slow - using low-fat cheese instead of regular, mixing half of you hamburger with ground turkey, watching your portions. I agree that keeping track of your food in the food tracker is an excellent thing to do - that way we can offer even more helpful suggestions. :)

Whether you think you can or think you can't - you're right. I know it's frustrating and depressing but you have to battle through it - whatever your brain decides you can do (or can't do) is what's going to win out. I know you can do this!

BRITOMART Posts: 8,125
1/15/13 9:26 P

Here are a couple of suggestions: track--and make your food tracker public. That will let folks make substantive suggestions.

If your doctor thinks you have an eating disorder, demand a referral for counseling--ed's aren't terminal illnesses, and you CAN overcome one.

If the meds helped you gain, get a referral to a registered dietitian, work with him/her to develop a healthy/ier plan for getting better nutrition in forms you can enjoy and that will work better with your meds.

You say you are picky: make a promise with yourself to try one healthy new food every week--and try it more than once. Palates take time to become educated: if you're accustomed to high-fat, high-sodium items like "pizza, hamburgers, mac n cheese," it can take time to develop a taste for yogurt, fresh fruit, and lentils (for example). But it can be done; you can still have your pets, but as more occasional treats, not your staples.

Make sure you stay hydrated.

Keep trying new things--new foods, new exercises, new experiences. (And do drop the 'can't' from your vocabulary--you don't want to hear that word--especially not in your own voice--it doesn't help! shift it to "I haven't been able to so far, but...")

Good success to you.

Edited by: BRITOMART at: 1/15/2013 (21:27)
CLOUDYBLUE72 SparkPoints: (0)
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1/15/13 9:01 P

I know it sounds like i'm looking for sympathy but i'm really not. I just don't know what else to try

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1/15/13 9:00 P

I was down to 1200-1500 calories a day, but it's hard to afford healthy food, I have pretty much no money. I work out for anywhere from 30-60 minutes a day, i'm gaining more health problems from being overweight, i'm trying really hard. But as usual, i'm starting to give up. I'm not just gaining weight, but inches too. Everyone says I can do it, but I really can't. I used to jog a mile a day and work out with weights, do Just Sweat on Just Dance. I gained 10 pounds in eight weeks.

1/15/13 8:57 P

You actually can lose weight. Anyone can lose weight. Is it easy? No.

But don't worry about that. Worry about your health. You can't cut back on your calories? Fine. Eat BETTER calories. Instead of eating processed foods, eat foods that are real, came from a plant you recognize, a piece of meat that came from a rancher near your home, drink a beverage that is water...or a juice that doesn't have colors and chemicals added to it.

Take your frustration and turn it into motion. Get up, pace the room. Run in place while you watch TV. Jump up and down for ten seconds. Punch a pillow for a minute.

I know you can lose weight. I trust you. Now you need to trust you too.

CLOUDYBLUE72 SparkPoints: (0)
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1/15/13 8:56 P

Thanks for the hug :) I had a lot of problems before, and I was put on meds that made me gain almost 100 pounds, and that's what I can't take off. I don't need sympathy. I've started with the right attitude, over and over again. And every time, I check a month or two later, and i've gained weight.

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1/15/13 8:54 P

I have some health problems, i'm on meds but they don't seem to help. And like I said, very picky. I love pizza, hamburgers, mac n cheese... But that obviously doesn't help. Grilled chicken and broccoli are probably the healthiest things I can eat. My doctor/therapist told me I technically have an eating disorder

MARITIMER3 SparkPoints: (208,176)
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1/15/13 8:54 P

Sorry if this sounds unsympathetic, but if you start off with the attitude that you can't lose weight, you're probably right. No one will tell you that SP is easy, but if you really follow the program, you can, and will lose weight. Give it a chance!

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1/15/13 8:53 P

emoticon I just want to give you a huge hug. Please dont give up. I am about 30lbs overweight for my height and I can't tell you how many times I've started over on my journey to loose weight and be healthy. I talked to my doctor yesterday about my weight bc Im on medications and the abilify I take has been known to make ppl gain weight according the to the dr who put me on it. My family dr told me that I did not gain my weight over night and I wont loose it overnight either, to be paitent with myself, focus on small changes over time, like one week I focus on drinking more water the next week I focus on exercising at least 30 minutes 3 days a week that sort of thing. I would suggest talking to your doctor maybe they can give you a diet to follow. I know that logging my food and exericise on here seems to help. I didn't even realize how many calories some things I love to eat have . Just hang in there sweetie you can do this emoticon emoticon

OMALLEYC Posts: 607
1/15/13 8:48 P

There has to be a reason your body is keeping the weight on (and adding more) if you are eating healthy foods within your calories and burning what SparkPeople recommends. Have you seen a registered dietitian? They may be able to help determine if something in your diet is causing issues.

I know it's discouraging, but please don't give up. My husband is a very picky eater but we find healthy things for him to eat that he likes -- what kinds of things do you like to eat? Perhaps we can give you some suggestions on menus that will work for you.

CLOUDYBLUE72 SparkPoints: (0)
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1/15/13 8:37 P

I'm overweight, and I always have been. I want to lose 100 pounds but I can't. Between medical problems and my way-too-picky eating habits, I can't lose weight. I worked out more than I have in years and I gained 10 pounds, even when I was watching my calories. So my question is, what is the point? Why should I watch what I eat and work out when i'm never going to lose weight?

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