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LADYCJM SparkPoints: (57,456)
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6/3/13 2:15 A

The people that I know of who have been successful after weight loss surgery are those that view it as a tool to help them lose weight. And they were in programs that insisted on psych counseling prior to surgery.

One of the biggest problems with being morbidly obese is that being that overweight changes your body and how it reacts to weight loss. One of the docs I work with said it was like the body changes it's chemistry to encourage weight gain.

And as one of the other posters said it's so much harder to lose weight when you can't exercise because you are too heavy.

I have a patient in the hospital right now who has a BMI of 50 and has been told lose weight or die. His cardiologist told him that if he can't lose a significant amount of weight soon he needs to have WLS. How scary is that????

I did read an interesting article last week about how WLS is proving itself as a cure for Diabetes. And if the complications of diabetes can be prevented then it would definetly be worth considering! I see so many patients with renal failureand heart disease from uncontrolled diabetes.

KNUCKLES145 Posts: 16,056
6/2/13 9:12 A

and they also down play that you still need to "diet" after the surgery

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6/2/13 8:21 A

The majority of people who are obese enough to qualify for that surgery are that heavy because of their mind. The surgery does not change your psychological tninking. That's why people gain it back. I think for a lot of people, going to a psychologist and working on the mental part of this would be money better spent than the surgery.

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6/2/13 7:57 A

WLS is very dangerous and that side is often underplayed by the media!

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6/1/13 4:57 A

Having been very obese I can see the draw to WLS. Your so big that you can not do anything the thought of excerise and wonderfing if your bones will break. The thought of going any getting something done so your not traped any more is something you start to lean towards. The tv shows and media make it worse by showing it as an easy option. I did the old school things healthy life style and excerise and help from lots of people and perfessionals. The stories of people who lost through wls and gained it all back are becoming more common. With out the hard work of taking it away old school it seems easier for them to put it back on.

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6/1/13 12:37 A

I totally agree -- you put it nicely there -- it seems to me that weight loss surgery is becoming less of a 'save your health' option, and more of a cosmetic procedure. My neighbor had WLS and she suffered so many complications and was in and out of the hospital. I just don't think that side of things ever gets brought to light. Sure, I would love a "quick and permanent fix", but I'm not willing to have my stomach surgically turned into something the size of a thumb in order to achieve that.

And I also agree with your statement about the big weight loss companies like nutrisystem and jenny craig and weight watchers. Weight loss (in the US at least), is big business. It just seems wrong to profit off of people who have a need and desire to improve their health. There really isn't any rocket science here, but it is hard work. So the "quick and easy" part suckers people in.

Okay, see? It doesn't take much coaxing for me to pull out my soapbox and climb right up. :-)

5/31/13 10:51 P

I agree, and if you watch Discover Fit and Health they are HUGE advocates of it.

I don't really want to slam Americans (I am one myself) and I know this goes on in other countries but I think we are the worst. We don't seem to want to do anything that requires having to do anything and you are right-it is glorified and the dangers aren't really portrayed.

Don't get me wrong-I love watching people's stories of how they lost the weight but 9 times out of 10, they had surgery. I think it is great for a small minority of the population and if you can lose weight without the surgery, then you shouldn't be having it. I don't mean to offend anyone who has had it done-my apologies. Most people do seem to view it as a quick fix. On top of that, then cosmetic surgery has to be done because the weight is coming off too fast. I'd rather do it the old-fashioned way. Diet (eating better) and exercise.

This is a little off-topic but what also gets me is Weight Watchers, Jenny Craig, etc that claim you can lose weight by eating their food, and who is going to catch the small print that says you have to exercise for it to take effect? Ok, I have paused the TV to read some of it. Another thing that gets me is all those weight loss products that 'claim' to help you lose weight with minimal effort.

Sorry HEALTHY-SPARK-you got me started!

BUNNYKICKS Posts: 2,433
5/31/13 4:00 P

It's just not a route I would take for myself. I understand that in some cases there is a health/medical reason for it, and in those cases, it is perhaps literally a life saver. But as time goes on and it becomes more mainstream, it's starting to be viewed by some more as a way to "improve looks" than to "rescue health." For me, that is just not enough of a reason to get me to submit to a procedure that carries the long-term consequences that WLS does.

NAUSIKAA Posts: 4,848
5/31/13 3:49 P

Downsides to WLS aren't just the (not inconsequential) risks but the fact that you have to live with a permanently altered digestive system afterwards. I had my gallbladder removed -- that is a MINOR digestive organ that we can live without easily -- yet my digestion has never been the same. Knowing how much my body struggled to adapt without a silly organ such as the gallbladder makes me very nervous about something like WLS. It just seems like such an extreme measure when healthy eating and exercise are necessary anyway (with WLS or not). I do understand of course that for some people WLS is most certainly the right choice and will save their life, but it's also very sad to read of people who underwent WLS, have suffered the difficulties associated with such a major surgery / digestive system change, and yet have managed to regain the weight -- it is not rare, either.

It would be great if everyone could get into healthy eating and exercise early enough that WLS isn't necessary. But I'm also glad that it exists for those who truly need it.

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5/31/13 3:18 P

It seems lately the news is really focusing on weight loss surgery as the "quick and permanent" way to lose weight. I'm not morbidly obese, but I get that for some people, weight loss surgery is the best option. But the media lately seems to just be glorifying it and not really pointing out the dangers associated with it. In the US where everyone wants a "quick fix" to their solutions, I don't think the media is sending a good message out to the masses.

Just my two cents.

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