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ALECIA0823 Posts: 446
1/9/12 9:16 P

I am a middle school teacher, so not as familiar with protocols for lower elementary testing, but having someone go from room to room, while a movie is on, and ask kids questions without them knowing the importance of the testing, on a specific day (does what he does on other days count at all?) does not sound like a very effective form of testing. I have two daughters, 6th and 2nd grade, and my oldest has had some difficulties, but never, ever, did they have a situation like this. The teacher's evaluated on a daily basis, usually by just doing various activities with the kids.

Anyway, don't hesitate to check out other school options. Homeschooling is good, especially if your area has a group you can join, but you may miss out on opportunities for your son to get speech help, or to learn the skills needed in a classroom. If you are open to it, I would check into private schools. Many have tuition assistance programs, and most approach educating children from a perspective of every child being unique and special and deserving the best education possible. Often, they are able to have smaller class sizes, and kids who struggle in the public schools flourish in private schools. Anyway, just an idea to consider. Best of luck!

QUETTDO Posts: 34
1/9/12 8:52 P

Don't give up. The some school systems are not the best. I had a very similar instance with my daughter around your child's age. My daughter she is now in the 3rd grade she struggles at time, but her confidence level is much higher now. The teachers she had took her little confidence down to nothing.

Long story short: The school was trying to force me to get her tested for ADHD. Needless to say she has it, but I held my ground received the additional help my daughter needed at the school. I also enlisted a friend who is also a teacher to help tutor her at home.

I understand your frustration. Honey, you have no idea how many tears these eyes has shed because of this. But, I was resistant I demanded that my daughter get the help that she needed. No child left behind. Quote the law use it. In addition, schools have funds budgeted to work with children on a one-on-one basis. Ask that your child receive an IAP Individual Accommodation Plan (IAP) to assist in your child's learning. This will help him as he goes through school.

My daughter no longer goes to the school that was causing us grief. But, you best beleived I made them work for their money. She now is attending a school where the teachers are taking the time out to work with students.

TIPS:
Talk to the principle to request a meeting to be held with the School Psych,Guide Cons, teacher and who every else is involved with your child's education. (DO NOT MEET IF THE PRINCIPLE IS NOT IN ATTENDANCE)
Random unscheduled drop-ins in your son class room to observe (Report issues to principle)
Request that class work be sent home so that you can reinforce at home
Request a daily report to be email or written to you cc: the principle
Enlist help outside the school

And remember to fight, don't give up. You must make it clear that you are a involved parent. You are and will continue to be active in your child's education. And that you require that do the same, by providing your son with the required resources to make him successful in his education going forward. Ultimately, what I found is that the teachers were lazy and they didn't want to take the time out to help the children that were behind, because they had other students that were progressive and understood what was being taught. If needed report the issues to the school board.

Hope this helps. Shoot me an email if you need some additional guidance or information.

You are on track, be persistent. You are not too late, you are right on time. emoticon

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1/9/12 3:16 P

If the school feels like he doesn't need to be tested then either press for it or talk to your doctor.

KRUPKINA26 Posts: 125
1/9/12 2:27 P

Whether the teacher can understand him or not, it doesn't matter. If you ask for testing, by law they have to test him. Be persistent and take it above her head to the principal if needed. You need to be your son's advocate and get him the help he needs.

JMBFOR Posts: 44
1/8/12 6:28 A

Thanks everyone for the replies. As far as the speech theray goes, we asked the teacher at the beginning to the year to have him tested for speech because we knew that it was an issue. He comes by it naturally since I was in speech therapy from age 3 to age 11. Everytime that we talk to her about it she always says that she understands him fine and doesn't like think it is something he won't grow out of. He really has gotten much better since starting school.That being said, he does still have an issue with the "f" sounds.

AFZ2007, Thank you so much!!! That is exactly what I am sure is happening. Another reason why I am so irritated. When we had our last parent/teacher conference my sons teacher told me that my son was at the top part of his class so she only works with him about 2 days a week where as some of the children who are at the lowest part of the class get worked with everyday. I am sure it is do to class sizes, but regardless while my son isn't getting attention, what do they have to keep him occupied? Is he watching a program, playing? What kind of atmosphere is there?

He told be on the last six weeks testing day (which we don't find out about until it is over) That they were going from classroom to classroom and answering questions. So it is possible that his teacher who claims to understand him isn't even the one who tested his counting. Ok fair, i guess. The thing is he told me in one of the classrooms they were watching the new "ice Age" movie that he had never seen. I know that he wanted to go watch the movie and didn't understand or even care about the importance of counting that day.

I hesitate to call the teacher out and have her treat my boy differently. He has had a much harder time adapting to kindergarten than most of her students because he wasn't in school prior to this year. My town has a head-start program as well as pre-k, but it is income based and my children do not qualify, so this is his first year in this type of atmosphere. That being said, he doesn't always understand the importance of getting his work done, because it's not his third year of this. If she isn't paying much attention to him now, i don't want her to write him off and pay even less attention.

Sorry for the longevity of my post, i am very upset still. He is a very bright boy and I want them to give him the credit he is do. The problem isn't with him, or his learning ability, it is with the way they are testing it!!!

AFZ2007 Posts: 91
1/7/12 10:18 A

We just had this same sort of issue with my 6 yr old stepdaughter. On top of everything, she is extremely disruptive in the class, so the teacher basically ignores her. We have tried for 3 years to get her tested for ADD/ADHD and they kept saying she was too young. She was recently seen and they say she is autistic, but has had no follow-up appointment in over a month. Sorry about all that, I just share your frustration.

What we found with my stepdaughter, at school she was too distracted to count as high as she actually could. The teacher said she wasn't learning and even needed to be held back. I went to the school and the principal brought the teacher into her office and my stepdaughter counted to 100. It could possibly just be the environment. I remember counting to 100 in kindergarten(many years ago...lol), and the other kids were doing a scarecrow project while the others counted...I only counted to 83 and then I wanted to go play, so I quit. I know it seems odd for me to remember that, but as soon as the school said my stepdaughter couldn't count, this memory popped up and we proved she could. Good luck!

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1/6/12 8:58 P

i would find out if the school offers special education. if it does you should be able to get him into speech therapy. my son is only 5 years old and he has been in speech therapy since he was 2 1/2 years old. i had him tested as early as i could and as soon as i noticed the miss pronouncation of letters. he has come along way since then but he does still struggle with certain things. like the s and th sounds. dont get discouraged. just talk to the teachers or the principal and find out what is offered to help your child. express your concerns and go from there.

good luck to you and your son.

GLITTERFAIRY77 Posts: 8,023
1/6/12 6:31 P

I would try to get in contact with the parent liason(our schools have them) or principal or vice principal, and specifically request that he be taken to speech therapy in the school. Some kids are a little later than others. My son who will be six in exactly one month, has problems with th's sometimes-and pronounces them instead with d or f in its place, unless he really concentrates.
Basically everything MFLEETING said...

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1/6/12 6:13 P

Since he has a problem saying some of his letters have you thought about trying to get him into speech class? You would just need to talk to the principal, teacher, or both and request for him to be tested. If he was in speech class the speech teacher could make notes for when tests or anything are done to help.

JMBFOR Posts: 44
1/6/12 5:20 P

Today my son brought home his report card for the 3rd six weeks of school. Just like when he brought home his report card for the 2nd six weeks I am very irritated with the school and his teacher especially. When they do their end of the six weeks evaluations, I don't feel like they are giving him the best environment, as well as the fact that they don't seem to even know him very well.

My son has a problem saying some of his letters. In particular he says his "f"s as "s"s. So when saying 15 it sounds like he is saying 16. This being the case they don't ever give him credit for recognizing or counting the number 15.

Also, when asked to count he can count to sixty. I think they are not creating a good environment for these tests because the teacher says he can only count to 39. I am very unhappy because they are giving him unsatisfactory marks when he is quite capable of doing these things.

It makes me wonder if the class sizes are just too big and if he wouldn't be better off in either a smaller school or homeschooled.

Has anyone had these experiences? I feel like sometimes I am just being "mama-cub" and maybe I should just butt out so that he can learn to start facing adversity. Any thoughts, comments, advice?

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