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RAMSASPARK SparkPoints: (679)
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8/22/13 3:25 P

It's an eye-opening trip, and only 3 weeks long... I'm starting to think that I can do better without some of these 7 foods, and without testing, you'd never really know, would ya?
No harm, no foul.
I also see it as a kind of will power challenge. There's STILL a lot that you CAN eat, but discovery is a beautiful treat that I would have missed out on.

MISSSVJS SparkPoints: (12,693)
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8/22/13 12:43 P

The thing is the Virgin Diet doesn't have you cut out those foods for 5 years - it's only for 3 weeks, then you add each of the eliminated foods back in one week at a time to see how they affect you, if at all. If they don't bother you, you can continue to eat them. If you notice a reaction, then you know that's a food to avoid for a longer period of time - not necessarily forever though. This is a great way to discover if you are sensitive to 7 of the foods that are the most common foods that can cause problems in people. I learned on this "diet" that I personally don't tolerate gluen and some dairy well and sugar is like crack cocaine for me, so while I allow myself to have some now and then, I know if I eat these things regularly, I'll have problems - joint pain, bloating, increased food cravings, etc. Why wouldn't anyone want to know this?????

HORETTA155 SparkPoints: (6,748)
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8/21/13 8:55 P

That is what I did mostly. I decided that I just couldn't give up my dairy so I am just trying to stay on track with my spark planner. I don't always eat "clean" but I am trying and doing much better. Just eating grilled or roasted meats, low or no fat dairy and trying to get my fruits and veggies in. Doing good so far. I have lost 6lb in the last few weeks so at least it is going in the right direction! I also have been working out more.. 2 1/2 miles on the elliptical now! Not bad considering that I had a hard time getting a mile in the first time. emoticon

LIVN2BFIT SparkPoints: (4,093)
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8/21/13 6:14 P

I like Russell's comment about asking yourself if you can do something for 5 one respect, your 'diet' is a about making healthy changes that you can live wit over a long period of time-if that means 90-95% of the time you eat 'clean', then great...on the other hand, sometimes we need a 'jump- start' to kick us in the right direction or to help us get more motivated, especially if results on the scale show up faster...whatever you do, do what 'works' for you-log what you eat-attempt to have your food log % match up with Spark...

RUSSELL_40 Posts: 16,826
8/21/13 6:05 P

Look at the diet from this perspective. Could you cut out the foods that are cut out from this diet, for 5 years? If you think the answer is NO, then why start the diet. You will probably have " cheats " on any diet, but you need to find something that works 95% of the time, that fits into YOUR life. There are dozens of elimination diets available, and there are benefits to dropping things from your diet, like corn, gluten, sugar etc. I think sugar is universal ( start there ). If it is too strict to follow, it won't work though, so all you will do is yo-yo.

I chose to do low carb, because I love chicken. I eat 2/3 of my meals from chicken, and love it. Asking a vegetarian to eat like I do, or me to eat vegan, would be a waste of time.Almost all of these products listed on the Virgin diet are problems for some people, but I doubt for most ALL 7 are. Cutting sugar will help, and corn, peanuts, and soy, may not be part of your diet anyways. That leaves gluten, dairy, and eggs. Do you eat a lot of eggs? If not, you just need to cut gluten, and dairy, which would make it easier than if you eat tofu, and peanuts every day, and love them.

No one else can tell you how it will affect you. This will work for some people, just like low carb does for me. However, for many they are too strict to follow. The best diet, is one you can stick to for the next 5 years, or even better, for the rest of your life. I already ate meat, and just added low glycemic veggies, instead of potatoes. If it had been a radical switch, I would never have stuck to it.

My brother recently tried this, and didn't like it, same as when he tried low carb. You know what you like to eat, and if cutting some of these seems way too hard, like dairy, or gluten, be honest with yourself, and come up with a different plan. If these cuts seem easy, then give it a whirl, and see how it affects you.

RAMSASPARK SparkPoints: (679)
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8/21/13 12:34 P

I'm just finishing up my 1st week on the Virgin type diet, and it's going well. Gone from 212 to 205lbs, and eating enough to stay from starving, or feeling deprived. The first few days were tough, and felt pain from not doing sugar and wheat, I think. Found that I REALLY enjoy coconut milk...and buying fresh real food is a trip, if you're used to more processed stuff. We'll see how it goes, but I'd like to modify my eating and add enough exercise to lose about 25 more pounds... (I haven't been under 200 since getting out of high school 37 years ago...)

HORETTA155 SparkPoints: (6,748)
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8/6/13 5:45 P

Hi, KRISTHEOT! I know that I do not eat right. I just can't seem to stay on anything long. I get started and get all excited and then later just can't seem to stick with it. Hopefully this time will be different. emoticon Sometimes I just get so confused with everything. They keep telling you not to eat this or to eat that. I mean geeez make up your minds! lol
Thanks for all your help!

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8/6/13 5:40 P

Thanks, I am going to try that next. I think that I will just do some small changes and see if that helps me.

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8/6/13 5:35 P

Thanks, I might have to try that. Not sure if I can give all that up though. lol I guess that is the reason that I am over weight is not being willing to give up my food.

MISSSVJS SparkPoints: (12,693)
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8/6/13 10:24 A

There is a Virgin Diet team that you might check out - you'll get more support there than you will here. Yes, I've done the Virgin Diet and loved it - didn't lose a whole lot but didn't have a whole lot to lose and I learned I don't do well with gluten and dairy.

SIMLANNA SparkPoints: (12,602)
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8/6/13 9:42 A

Have you looked at the Spark People challenges? There is one about reducing sugar intake and there are some good resources associated with it.

8/6/13 8:48 A

Hi, Horetta! I don't know about the Virgin diet, but I am wondering if you are tracking all your food. I ask because I always thought that my diet was very healthy and well balanced. I assumed my weight gain was only due to lack of portion control.
However, when I started tracking all my food on Sparkpeople, I was surprised at how high in carbs my diet was, even after I cut out a lot of bread and sweets. I also started tracking fiber and was surprised at how little I was getting, even though I felt like I was eating plenty of whole grains and vegetables. So it was a reality check for me, and helped me balance out my nutrition better, just by trying to stay within the Sparkpeople guidelines for carbs, fat, and protein.
Frankly, I need to start tracking again because even though I was successful in losing some weight, I suspect that I am slipping on the nutrition front and I should take a good look at my diet again.
Good luck!

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8/5/13 6:57 P

Thanks! I have arthritis really bad and I am only 42. I think part of it is because I am so over weight. I just can't seem to stick with anything long enough to loose it. I am really addicted to sugar. I so have to stop eating it!!! I think that I will just try to do this on my own. Cutting out certain things to see if that helps. I have read in other things that dairy can cause inflammation so that may be making my arthritis worse. Guess it won't hurt to try.. I have tried to lower my intake of any breads, pasta and etc. but sometimes I do eat a little.

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8/4/13 8:46 P

i wouldn't buy any "fad" diet like this, but what i would do if you're having unexplained health problems is to start either working with an allergist or isolating food groups all on your own. if you have high yeast (some people do) then limiting breads, beer, fermented foods, etc., can be beneficial. if you are allergic to nightshades then avoiding peppers and tomatoes and certain spices and eggplant can help. there are lots of intolerances and it's doubtful that she's found 7 that everyone has a problem with!!

if you could describe the nature of your health problems perhaps folks could offer some nutritional advice?

DRAGONCHILDE SparkPoints: (58,340)
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8/4/13 8:39 P

This diet provides no new, revolutionary information others haven't claimed before. It's the same old stuff, wrapped up in a new package, with yet another "expert" without any medical training claiming to know something everyone else does.

The problem with these kinds of elimination diets is they're nearly impossible to keep up with long term; they're about finding scientifically shaky "bad" foods and seeing how you feel. This isn't necessarily a lifestyle change.

I think there are better, more moderate diets out there, that aren't so restrictive. Or even better, skip the diets altogether and focus on developing a healthy lifestyle for life:

CMCOLE Posts: 2,667
8/4/13 7:37 A

I've not done it, so maybe my suggestion is invalid:

how about replacing the dairy with almond milk?

HORETTA155 SparkPoints: (6,748)
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8/3/13 11:14 P

Anyone doing the "Virgin diet" by JJ Virgin? If so how do you like it? I am having lots of health problems and am hoping that this will help. Any suggestions for giving up dairy?

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