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GOTHMEIN
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6/16/13 4:44 P

uhhm, i don't think snapping a rubber band is like beating yourself witha baseball bat or something. i say if it works for you, and doesn't hurt you then do what it takes. i think positive reenforcement is great, but everyone has their own views and likes and dislikes. i've had to resort to many different methods because some last for a while, and then become less effective. so good luck, and if you do find something that works for you please share.



MYKIDSRSWEET
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6/14/13 9:26 P

I think it would drive me nuts, but I think it would work better for unconscious habits...like my daughters nail biting.



MAYBER
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6/12/13 2:38 P

What works for one person will not appeal to someone else
However we all make our own decisions and if it works stick with it
One day at a time



CELTICMAID
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5/19/13 6:05 A

I liked that one - quite cheered me on!
No matter how slow you go you are still lapping everyone on the couch!
So, when I am wobbling about with my stick (on and off thing depending on state of arthritus) I AM STILL ACHIEVING - my mobility important as when bad I cannot reach village - nearly mile and half away - hard on good days!
One day ireland will do electric tricycle with good strong thick tyres (really needed here) and I will be in 700th heaven (lots of little heavens here and there lately....spring, sister coming, had lovely birthday in good hotel - won a prize from a competition i had forgotten I had entered! my other half doing housework........I know I am so lucky this year....)



SIMONEKP
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5/3/13 8:48 A

Not for me



LADYCJM
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5/3/13 12:32 A

Not for me! I like p youare worth it.ositive rewards not pain! Reward yourself, you sre worth it!



SEALIONGIRL
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5/2/13 4:01 P

That's actually positive punishment. And for what it's worth, animal training rules say that trying to teach with positive punishment doesn't work, and creates fear and anxiety. Try reinforcing yourself for good things that YOU control directly. Ex: go to the gym five days a week all month=new shoes (rather than losing X pounds).



CELTICMAID
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5/2/13 12:59 P

I'm with you.
We are human and make mistakes and do the wrong thing at certain times and waht a sad and frightening world if we are to be punished for these errors - would be scared to move. emoticon



CELTICMAID
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5/2/13 12:57 P

I was thinking of Skinner - equally abhorrent! emoticon



CELTICMAID
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5/2/13 12:55 P

Oh, I much prefer this idea...lovely and if you don't mind I would like to think of something for me to help.
Lovely idea emoticon



CELTICMAID
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5/2/13 12:53 P

I already feel bad about myself and I do not want corporal punishment
I see that you need encouragement - we all do, come and talk to the sparklers instead. emoticon



JMB2LOSE
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5/2/13 12:35 P

My sister tried this to stop cursing, and it worked for a bit. It can't hurt to try.



SIMPLELIFE2
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5/2/13 11:38 A

Why do you feel like you should punish yourself? I think this just sets you up to continue a disordered relationship with food. Food is just calories. You are neither good or bad for making healthy choices or indulging a craving. Even sweets and snacks have a place in your eating plan. Eating well is not a diet but a lifestyle choice.



CLIMBERS_ROCK
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5/2/13 9:22 A

I'm for positive reinforcement



LOVE4KITTIES
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5/1/13 5:58 P

Having the rubber band on my wrist would remind me of why it was there and so I'd think of the food...

I also do not think much of negative reinforcement. The idea of snapping myself with a rubber band for even thinking of something is definitely not appealing.

Positive reinforcement is typically much more effective and it's a much better way to treat yourself (or others).



JAZZTHEJAZZ
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5/1/13 1:30 P

How about something sparkly instead of painful?

I've got a bracelet that I love, that always makes my wrists look so tiny. When I think about snacking in the middle of the day, I look at my wrist and my bracelet and remind myself that my hard work has been paying off.

If you want to put a reminder on your wrist, let it be one that reminds you to love yourself and your body, not hurt it.


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ARCHIMEDESII
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5/1/13 11:36 A

JENNIEMARS,

Yeah, I also remember hearing about this many many moons ago. Like others, I'm not big on negative reinforcement. I'm all for POSITIVE reinforcement. Snapping an elastic on your wrist as hard as you can every time you think of something sweet could be really painful. And well, if you're like me, you could be snapping that thing pretty regularly. ;)

There are healthier and less painful ways to lose weight. I'm a big believer in moderation, not deprivation.





IOWADEB
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5/1/13 10:46 A

Lol

I like the idea if why I want to get more healthy



SWIMOM
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5/1/13 10:11 A

Ahhh...Pavlov's theory at work emoticon It probably will work for the very short term but after a while, the human brain simply finds the action annoying. Now if someone else was plucking the rubber band....we may have a real fat solution!



MISSRUTH
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5/1/13 9:19 A

Well. I don't reckon I think much of this-- specifically, snapping the rubber band as hard as you can every time you think about eating something you "shouldn't". I know the rubber band thing has been around for years and years, as a "tool" to quit smoking. Back when I still smoked, I didn't think very highly of the idea either. And when I quit, I did not use a rubber band.

I think it would be more helpful to make a list of the reasons why you want to lose weight and get fit. Or write down all your goals. And carry a copy of the list in your purse, or in your pocket. Post a copy on the fridge, on your bathroom mirror, on the dashboard of your car--- every place where seeing it, can help keep you motivated.

And I agree that I probably think about food as much now as I used to. Only my focus is on healthy choices in food. Planning meals, looking at recipes, making grocery lists. Say I got pineapple upside down cake in my head. I'd then either look for a recipe for a healthier version of that cake, and figure out a way to fit it into my meal plan for the week, or I'd focus instead on just the pineapple part and how great it would be to get a fresh pineapple the next time I go shopping. Fresh pineapple is (obviously) a fruit and I eat a couple fruits every day. Nothing "wrong" with pineapple. And then I might look at Spark Recipes or some other "healthy" or "low cal" recipe sites on the web, for desserts or main-dish recipes using fresh pineapple.

Spark tells us that no food is "bad" or off limits. It's all about moderation and portion control. Eventually when we've lost the weight, it would be far more helpful to have learned how to incorporate foods like pineapple upside down cake into our lives, than to have banished it completely while we lost the weight-- and then feel free to go hog wild. That's how I always treated it in the past; like a "diet" and not a lifestyle.



TURQUOISEBIKE
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5/1/13 2:43 A

It doesn't sound very appealing to me either. I think it might be an effective strategy that somebody could use for a week or so to deal with a specific challenge like the office vending machine, but banning all thoughts of food doesn't seem like a useful long-term strategy

Sucessful losers probably spend a lot more time thinking about food than mindless eaters. Being organized enough to have a proper breakfast may save somebody from falling for a junk snack mid-morning. Being organized enough to have a proper lunch (and a healthy afternoon snack?) may keep people away from unhealthy afternoon snacks. Being organized enough to have real food on hand for dinner makes it easier to avoid junk takeaways. Having delicious, satisfying, healthy food on hand through the day takes quite a lot of organization, and I don't really see how it can be done without thinking enthusiastically about food. I suppose it's possible to follow a plan from a diet book mechanically and unthinkingly, but not forever.




LOVEXAVIE
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5/1/13 1:05 A

I remember hearing about this many moons ago.
Sure doesn't sound appealing to me.

Eating should be a joy! No punishment required. I know we're all different, but give me positive reinforcement over negative any day.

I doubt the rubber band method would work (it wouldn't with me - it would make me sad and angry), but say it did: would you want to go through the rest of your life doing that?

Honestly, this time around losing weight has been the easiest, sanest experience (compared to times past). And that makes me feel like I can keep it up. The difference is I'm finally making it a lifestyle vs a temporary diet.



JENNIEMARS
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5/1/13 12:26 A

I"m not entirely sure where to put this, but I wanted to ask. I was talking to a coworker today who has been trying to lose weight and she said that she wears a rubber band around her wrist and whenever she thinks of food, specifically of sweet things or snacks from the vending machine, she snaps it as hard as she can. Basically negative reinforcement. Has anyone tried anything like this? I know it's probably not the best way to do things, but I'm getting frustrated with myself and it's starting to seem like a good solution. ;_;



 
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