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10/31/13 1:21 P

Fair point. I'm really close to a total weight goal on bench press now, but once I've hit that goal, I'll go back and retread with dumb bells. Thanks for the thoughts!

FITWITHIN Posts: 21,961
10/31/13 1:00 P

I like having the option for both. I like the variety of equipment that the gym offers. Plus, I like using my Bowflex , resistance bands, and Kettlebells with the dvd.

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SERGEANTMAJOR Posts: 6,498
10/31/13 12:59 P

If the total weight lifted is your goal then the rack is an option but using dumbbells requires the use of the stabilizing muscles to get the weight in place and hold there while executing the movement.Strength increases are not always only the function of the weight lifted, some of the bodyweight only trainers such as Al Kalvado are phenomenally strong if you witness the moves they can do.


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Cardio burns calories, strength work burns fat.

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10/31/13 12:47 P

I see your point about how a bar places more stress on the shoulders than dumb bells but the attraction of a bench press to me is that, like a squat rack, it allows me to maneuver larger amounts of weight into position than using dumb bells. The weight I can bench with a bar is easily 30# more than what I can do with dumb bells simply because I'm not going through the effort of getting the weights into position on my own. Is this a fact of life, or is there something I'm missing?

SERGEANTMAJOR Posts: 6,498
10/31/13 12:29 P

The problem with the standard bench press using a bar is the stress it places on the shoulders. Many trainers including myself are now going to using dumbbells for bench pressing in lieu of a weighted bar. The bench press can be a false indicator of strength due to the real lack of total body involvement however it is an excellent chest, shoulder and arm exercise..


It is called WORK-ing out for a reason.

I said getting fit was simple, I did not say it was easy.

Cardio burns calories, strength work burns fat.

Eat well to lose weight, exercise to get fit

You can not build a six pack using twelve packs


Often when we seek a magic bullet for fitness we end up shooting ourselves in the foot.

"I think calories are little germs in food that all moms are afraid of" Dennis the Menace

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10/31/13 12:01 P

always on my own..how can anyone even challenge their muscles properly with the teeny 5 and 10 pound weights in the group fitness studio?!

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KELLYFIT123 Posts: 986
10/31/13 10:44 A

I have to do them in a class, otherwise I wouldn't do them at all! You just need to find what works best for you... Doesn't sound like this class is it.

RIVETPA Posts: 1,177
10/31/13 7:05 A

I can't afford a gym membership so therefore can't afford to join any kind of group or class... I do workout on my own though

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10/31/13 2:24 A

I do Barre classes. They don't feel very strenuous, but I have definition all over, now. I recommend them to everyone!

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10/30/13 1:50 P

on my own


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SERGEANTMAJOR Posts: 6,498
10/30/13 12:57 P


I encourage my clients to workout on their own. That way they can with my help choose the appropriate exercises to help them meet their goals and they can set their own workout pace.

My partner does not like classes since they normally use machines which she finds limiting and boring to say nothing of fact many classes still include do not do exercises and isolation exercises.


It is called WORK-ing out for a reason.

I said getting fit was simple, I did not say it was easy.

Cardio burns calories, strength work burns fat.

Eat well to lose weight, exercise to get fit

You can not build a six pack using twelve packs


Often when we seek a magic bullet for fitness we end up shooting ourselves in the foot.

"I think calories are little germs in food that all moms are afraid of" Dennis the Menace

SHANNONY84 SparkPoints: (23,666)
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10/30/13 11:59 A

I think doing it with a class would motivate me more, but right now I am on my own!

TACDGB Posts: 6,136
10/30/13 10:47 A

I take group power weight lifting classes 3 days a week. I LOVE IT............! they push me and I like that. I also lift one day a week at home. I would not give up the classes.

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10/30/13 9:16 A

I like body pump type classes occasionally, but most of the time I lift on my own. Though when my gym had a promotion for group training sessions, I took a set of those because it was fun to be pushing myself hard (both ST and HIIT) but not being the only one pushing through the workout.

TIREDRUNS Posts: 23
10/30/13 8:59 A

I do it as part of a class. I don't enjoy it so I have found if I am not forced to do it then I skip it.

PENNYSAVER2 SparkPoints: (107,352)
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10/30/13 8:47 A

I do strength training on my own at the recreation center.

I CAN do this ONE day at a time.
FERNCREST Posts: 1,001
10/30/13 8:32 A

I have a partner that I lift with, sure helps keep me motivated

OAKDALE41 Posts: 952
10/30/13 8:25 A

I bought a couple of strength training dvd's and I do them at home. When I have questions about form I ask a trainer at the gym. I also just invested in a home TRX. I haven't used it yet but I am looking forward to it.

BUBBLEJ1 Posts: 2,981
10/30/13 4:10 A

I do my ST alone. I tried a class and didn't like it. ST is my alone time where I zone out. Try working with a trainer for a session or 2 and set up a programme that you can complete independently. Or so some research and go it alone if you can't afford a trainer (but be sure to select beginner moves if you are a beginner). I would suggest

- Push ups (modified if needed)
- Dips
- Squats
- Lunges
- Planks

to start with. 2-3 sets of 8-12 reps of each exercise. Bonus is there is no equipment so it can be done anywhere.

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10/29/13 10:59 P

on my own (or w/ a qualified trainer) -- classes move too fast & perform exercises not safe or best for me w/ my limitations

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10/29/13 7:49 P

I would rather do it on my own, when I did the class thing it felt like the instructors were there to get there workout in, not to assist the people paying to be there. It wasn't like that with all the instructors, just majority of them.

FANNISHMOM Posts: 229
10/29/13 5:43 P

I gave it a month but the thing is that I'm a beginner and I'm still better able to follow the class and do the work than some of the people who have been there for a while. It is a county park and rec class and you get people at a variety of levels. I get frustrated because we'll all get stuck on one particular move while we wait for some of the others to get done with that move. I guess, for me, it just feels like the cardio in a group works a little better than the strength training. You have to keep with the music and keep a set pace.

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10/29/13 4:16 P

It sounds as if people in the class are encouraged to work at their own level. You should too. Doing a strength class is no different than a cardio class. some of the moves or exercises take practice. How long have you done the class ? If it's only been a week or two, you really do need to give yourself more time to adapt to the new routine.

I wouldn't worry, just work at your own pace and don't try to keep up with everyone else. Some of those people may have been taking the class for months. If the class is a mix of beginners, intermediate and advanced students, that would also explain the difference in the number of reps they do.



FANNISHMOM Posts: 229
10/29/13 4:05 P

I'd been doing my cardio fine on my own and started taking some mat work strength training classes. When I did cardio as a class I loved it, but I'm finding it frustrating to do the strength training as a class. I love the instructor, but it is so hard when everybody completes their reps in different amounts of time. Has anyone else noticed something like this? Is it just me? I'm just having a hard time getting into it...

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