I hear you, Pam, and thanks for the details. There are plenty of weight-loss/health/fitness podcasts available now, and some of them bring me the kind of serious, relevant information I'm seeking. The current incarnation of SparkRadio seems geared toward young mothers who are seeking basic inspiration and an impetus to start - or maintain - their process. It seems, fortunately, like serious content providers such as Coach Nicole and Becky Hand plus some accomplished Spark members are still on hand to keep the program somewhat appealing, but at least for the foreseeable future, it seems like these contributors will, by necessity, be doing the bulk of the serious lifting, where content is concerned.
The new host is uninspiring.
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1,280 3/20/14 2:41 P
I like Spark People Radio and I enjoyed Lily and Karen. Bettina is okay, too. I really listen for the topics being discussed. I go up and down the menu and listen to what ever I feel like at the moment. This works best for me.
Very sad not to have Lily and Karen to listen to anymore. I know at one point there was a survey sent through spark people to sort of evaluate them. After that was when they were down to just Lily doing 90% of the broadcasts. Lily indicated that the survey results did not like having them both on together. They obviously had good rapport and were fun to listen to. I had a feeling that the other shoe was going to fall.. just not this far.
Well, I'm just relieved I'm not the only one here who hasn't cringed now and then at the various displays of vocal fry we hear throughout the day...and from a variety of sources in the media, too. I guess every generation has its speech "fads" :) Back in the early 1980s, when women wore dismal "power suits" with blouses bearing matronly looking bows at the neckline, female newscasters had the grating habit of replacing "s" with something akin to an "sh" sound (actually, it's not quite an equivalent, but something called an "apioalveolar 's'" in phonetics. "Sho, Shusan, tell me what YOU believe is shwaying public opinion..." This would be delivered in a "tough-broad" tone of voice, too. Whether the overall intent was to aim at sounding more assertive or mowing down the interviewee into submission, I'll never know, but it has given way, over the decades, to a "devolved Valley Girl" manner of speaking which includes vocal fry.
Today's female newscaster - and many actresses - speak in unnaturally (sometimes even supernaturally!) high-pitched, "little-girl," nasal vocal tones which descend into that preternaturally growling "vocal fry" effect. The consonant "t" in final position ("about," "at," "that") is often dropped, whereas "k" in final position has become overemphasized in an almost cartoonish way.
Why have I become so darned curmudgeonly over these speech trends? Because they serve no useful *phonemic* purpose, i.e., these affectations do not have any effect on the *meaning* of the affected word or words.
Lily and Karen were blissfully free of these irritations, and Lily, in particular, had a gorgeously mellifluous broadcaster's pipes. Yet delivery is a small component of a podcast - content is what's really driving the bus (and listenership). My favorite weight-loss/fitness podcasts right now are Heather Robertson's "Half Size Me" (wonderful!) and Sam Lomeli's "Tips of the Scale" (outstanding! See link in my signature, below...)
Meanwhile, website-wise, Sparkpeople DEFINITELY takes the calorie-free, sugar-free, fat-free cake for me :)
Nice talking with you!
Edited by: LOLA_LALA at: 3/12/2014 (20:52)
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3/12/14 3:43 P
I came here too say that I miss Lilly And Karen as well. I just learned of the new format a couple of days ago, so I have only heard the first episode and some of the second.
I had never heard of vocal fry before, and now I wish I hadn't because I am totally going to recognize it for now on!
I will give it some time. I love to have an inspiring podcast to listen to, and it is nice to have one specifically geared toward sparkpeople.
EABHA70, I hope you could hear the thunderous applause your post just got from my l'il corner of the world!
VOCAL FRY! You know about VOCAL FRY! You're in the know...among the initiated, and I salute you for your savvy! It is a TERRIBLE "phonetic phad," so to speak, and we hear it everywhere. But it was absent in the warm, professional voices of Lily and Karen - they had real broadcast-quality pipes (not to mention the genuine enthusiasm and sense of fun they brought to Spark Radio).
And, of all the unlikely people to discuss a vocal abomination, it was Howard Stern who seemed to comprehend it best. Here's a YouTube clip in which he and the satin-voiced Robin talked about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iyJmpxtZD E And Elmer Fudd, of all characters, led the parade with this awful habit circa 1942. Here's a hip-hop remix which exemplifies the terrible phenomenon of "vocal fry". If "I'm hunting wabbits!" doesn't make your skin crawl, I don't know what will... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I83nqU_-pu M
Poor Bettina is a victim, as are many female news broadcasters. The sound is like nails on a chalkboard...
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6,105 3/8/14 11:19 A
I'm an optimist and very open minded. I've listened to all the new shows, as well. However, I agree with all the postings that have preceded me. I will continue to listen and hope that, with time, Bettina matures into the new role. She is very sweet and positive and young. I am guessing that Sparkpeople wanted to go with someone younger who could connect with new moms. That's great but possibly a "more mature" co-host with some battle scars (laughing) would be a nice balance. Like I said, I will keep listening to Bettina and hoping for some new and fresh topics. I love Sparkpeople and trust that they will listen to those of us who have been dedicated listeners since the beginning of Spark Radio.
Edited by: LESLIESENIOR at: 3/8/2014 (11:20)
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3/8/14 10:14 A
I am going to have to agree with a couple of the previous posters who have pointed out the new host's tendency to talk over her guests. Maybe this is something that will improve with practice. I find it hard to listen to her interviews.
And the "vocal fry"! Has anyone else noticed? If you don't know what "vocal fry" is, Google it. I hear it all around me everyday, but to hear it from a radio host is quite jarring. Admittedly, it seems to have improved a bit from her first episode. I miss the smooth and professional voices of the previous hosts!
I also miss Lily and Karen's silly interactions. I think the show really needs two hosts. It makes it more dynamic.
Finally, the content IS getting a bit stale, as others have said. There was one segment, last week or this week, where it seemed Bettina was just talking in circles, waiting for the segment to end.
I have really enjoyed listening to Lily and Karen's old episodes, and since I haven't been around that long, I have many more episodes to enjoy before I run out. But these new ones are painful to listen to.
I've stopped listening, after giving the show a couple of chances. Not only does the new host seem to lack any connection or understanding with people who struggle with weight loss, but the content itself is stale - nothing we haven't heard before.
Without freshness, enthusiasm, or interesting content, a show becomes dead in the water.
3/8/14 2:55 A
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3/8/14 2:23 A
I finally had a chance to listen to Spark Radio again and was surprised that there was a new host. I kept an open mind and figured that SparkRadio wanted a new voice. Well this new host does not seem to have the interview experience. Everyone she had on there, she would interrupt or talk over them. It was a very strange thing to hear for a host of any show to do.
So I had to check out a little more about this new host. She's a voice over actress and newly joined SparkPeople in Feb. *sigh* I hope with time this new host will get the hang of the interviewing process. I really do miss Lily and Karen.
2/25/14 8:23 A
JUDITH I HAVE TO AGREE WITH ALL YOU HAVE WRITTEN, THANK YOU
Thank you for sharing, I am so disappointed in how everything is being brushed over, even when Television and Radio Hosts leave their station there is usually a word from the Host and a Station good-bye...
Why is SP taking such a different approach?? I really don't like this....
I have listened to the new Radio Host, she is a nice gal but the "Spark" and "Enthusiasm" is missing "Sigh" This is what I enjoyed..
Don't get me wrong,.I am thankful for SP in general, a great network and a great supportive Community, I have met and enjoy many friend's and am grateful for this awesome network.
All good, no complaints from me here, I'm just disappointed with how things have been done regarding the former Hosts of SP Radio. The "enthusiasm" has gone too.... It seems so, mundane, dull, monotonous....The lively enthusiasm has gone....In time I hope the new Host will have more "Spark" to her tone of voice.
My final word...Please bring back the "Spark and Enthusiasm" to SP Radio, we need it!
2/21/14 2:34 P
SP Stepfanie, thank you for writing,
For me the reason that I like SP is because it creates a sense of community, whereby you are in contact with like minded people and keep in contact with them.
We are encouraged to listen to the radio, so I am surprised that Lily and Karen's leaving has just been brushed over and all we hear that someone new has taken over. I do not doubt that Bettina is a wonderful SP member but so were Lily and Karen.
Even when presenters leave a show, we at least hear that it is their last show. Not even to have heard them say goodbye is sad
Would you do the same for coach Nicole if she decided to move on?
Hi, everyone. Thanks for your comments. As you've heard, SparkPeople Radio has undergone some changes in the last few months. Though Lily and Karen have moved on, we are happy with the job they did for us. We can't always share details of situations like this publicly, but we definitely wish them the best in reaching their goals and are thankful for their work in helping SP members. We ask that you continue to listen--our new host Bettina is passionate about healthy living and is a member of SparkPeople (as well as a part of the team). Though we have a new voice for SparkPeople Radio, it will continue to be the positive and motivating show you know and love. Please give Bettina a warm welcome and continue to support the show. SparkCheers! Stepfanie
Edited by: STEPFANIER at: 2/21/2014 (13:54)
2/21/14 1:38 P
I totally agree with you Leslie, just a little blog would be nice to say goodbye and maybe where we could have left comments, I would have liked to say thank you
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6,105 2/21/14 11:53 A
One of the most powerful aspects of Sparkpeople is the strong sense of community. We develop relationships and bonds with people here that other health and fitness sites do not offer. It is hard to watch any of our Spark friends disappear without explanation, and even harder when the friends are part of the team of experts and advisers.
Change is also a vital aspect of Sparkpeople. We are all changing and evolving as we grow and become healthier and more fit. But, an answer to our inquiries would seem courteous and appropriate. Then we can move on.
I'm sure the new host is wonderful and I plan to tune in. But, an answer to our questions about our friends, Karen and Lily, would be lovely.
2/21/14 4:54 A
I agree Judith, why isn't there a blog, just to explain, all I get is they don't know, how can no one not know? Is it a secret?
Ok, so where are Lily and Karen, why didn't they get to say goodbye, I enjoyed Lily and Karen... yes, it is sad that these gals are gone with no good-byes or explanation from SP, and where are their pages??
It would be nice if SP would answer all our questions regarding Lily and Karen...I see everyone's questions below and there hasn't been any response from SP, only telling us to listen to the New Host....
2/20/14 6:56 P
Yes I agree, I loved her enthusiasm, really sad that she has gone, and no one has said much at all
I'm sorry Karen and Lily "moved on". When Bagwan Rasish left the ashram in Seattle the most cogent comment came from the Rolls Royce salesman in town. "The man will be missed". and I will miss Karen and Lily. Be well.
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2/15/14 9:05 A
Glad I read this page didn't know why spark radio changed
2/13/14 7:41 P
Can't wait to hear the new show host next week.
I would like to hear about intuitive eating, because counting calories is too restrictive and not really a lifestyle.
Also, other topics related to the emotional/motivational side of weight loss/maintenance would be good. (I think most of us know about fitness and nutrition, but have trouble getting it done.)
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6,105 2/10/14 3:01 P
I was so saddened to hear of the loss of Lily and Karen to Spark Radio. I'm guessing they didn't "move on" willingly because they no longer have Spark pages I can access. They were Spark friends and I haven't found any broadcasts where they said goodbye. I enjoyed their positive, informative, and personal approach. I will continue to listen to Spark Radio with an open mind.
I, too, was really sorry to see the warmth and presence of Karen and Lily leave SR. The Men's Health, gadgets 'n' cars-themed last show I heard was a radical departure from previous content and format, and it wasn't one I'd embrace. I'm much more interested in the mindset, hows, and whys of weight loss and maintenance, and I felt that previous shows did a marvelous job of encompassing all of those facets.
Am anxious to hear what's down the pike!
2/8/14 6:27 P
I am looking forward to becoming a regular listener.
Hi, everyone. The episode with Chris and Alan isn't the new format. It was just a special episode taped at the Consumer Electronic Show in Vegas. The new show will be back in two weeks with a great host!
I miss Lily and Karen. I am more interested on more personal and friendly messages. That's what Lily and Karen did. I felt as if they were talking to me.
I didn't like the new show. I too, feel like the message was more forwarded to men. Although I like technology, the last show was as if they were showing off, more than sending messages to help us in our journey.
Edited by: CRAFTSFAN1 at: 2/7/2014 (15:25)
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2/6/14 6:52 A
I didn't even finish listening to that last broadcast, the "live" event. I wasn't getting anything from it. Too bad, loved Lily, and Karen when she was on.
Ditto on missing Lily and Karen, but also looking forward to having Radio up and running soon!
2/2/14 1:33 P
I will miss Lily & Karen. I like the enthusiasm they brought to SparkPeople Radio. I always enjoy listening to success stories of Spark members - I hope these will continue. I hope the "new" SparkPeople Radio will be up and running soon - I miss not being able to listen to it.
1/25/14 10:40 P
Lily & Karen bothered me at times but when I needed some uplifting, supportive chatter they were just the right choice. I am sorry they're gone. I, too, suspect that most members of the site are women and would like to have women on SR, at least some of the time.
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1/24/14 4:42 P
you can learn so much
1/21/14 10:44 A
I really liked Lily and Karen and, because this is a largely female community, think that the macho side--Men's Health---does not offer me as much as they did. I will miss them and I have a sinking feeling that they were pushed out for "Men's Health" and the crew speaking to us from Las Vegas.
Hi! I'm the producer of SparkPeople Radio. Lily and Karen have moved on to other projects, and one of the men you heard (Gregg Stebben) will be a regular contributor to the show. However, we will have a new host soon. Chris, of course, will be a familiar voice, too! In the meantime, let me know what you'd like to hear on the show! SparkCheers! Stepf
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