Unfortunately, I REALLY love the Leslie Sansone DVDs. They're the only regular exercise I've ever managed to commit to for an extended amount of time, so doing something else exclusively is not really appealing.
I worked out yesterday for the first time in over a week, and did a 1-mile with Leslie. I altered many of the moves so that my side steps were very small, my kicks & knee lifts were low, and 80% of my walking was in movement (I did loops around my living room!). My knees were fine during the workout and seem okay this morning.
I am hoping to get back into swimming in the fall (when my indoor pool opens), so am hoping to have more variety to my workouts instead of doing the same thing every day. I am also thinking about walking to work 2-3 times per week (it's about a 45 minute walk).
I am trying to SLOWLY get back into regular exercise, at least 10 minutes a day. When I work out regularly I feel better, make better food choices, and have a lot more energy. I will keep listening to my body and make sure I'm not pushing myself too much.
I do have a suggestion from my own personal experience. I haven't done the Leslie Sansone walk away the pounds dvds in a while, but I used to. When I did my knees went nuts. They really hurt and ached. I am young, no pre-existing knee issues, no family history of knee issues. I stopped using the dvds, and within a short period of time the pain was gone.
I was convinced this came from the moves where she has you step out wide (beyond shoulder width) and back in again. Perhaps my form was wrong, but whatever it was about those moves did me in. Maybe try removing the walk away the pounds dvd from your routine for a little while and see if there's a change?
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11,461 8/13/12 11:15 A
I've had some recent issues with my jnee as well, Pilates is a good thjought.
It's just occurring to me that my sore knees could be from playing tennis, not from my running! We've been playing a lot of tennis in the last couple weeks. I had to think - what has changed? Yes, I am running a bit more, and running outside. But I've also added tennis. I think part of it for me is jsut that I need to build up some strength.
This is going to sound strange, but I think it might be the Walk Away the Pounds workout that is causing the pain. I had problems with my knees doing the workout and I was already fairly active. Honestly, it was the fast lateral movements that jarred my knees more than kicking or marching. When your knees recover, try something else and see if it gets better.
Just wanted to make sure you are aware that NSAIDs can cause problems in some people. I too was experiencing frequent knee pain so I started taking a couple prior to every work out. I experienced nausea for a while but never associated it with NSAID use. Then one day after my work out I started vomiting black stuff. I ended up having to go to the ER and getting an NG tube put in. I had a gastric ulcer and bleeding in my stomach because of frequent NSAID use (this is not an uncommon effect of the medication). I am not telling you to not take them, they can be very helpful to a lot of people, just know the common side effects and watch for them in yourself.
Best of luck to you and I hope you are able to figure out your knee pain. I finally went to a sports medicine doctor who did all sorts of crazy stuff to my knees. I thought she was a nut case at first but it worked.
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295 8/12/12 12:18 P
i was refering to Leslie Sansone's PILATES YOU CAN DO, no stress on the knees and great toning!
----- "My workouts: more committed to consistency lately.." -----
That means you increased your workload. ANY increase or change in an exercise regimen can lead to overtraining (of which repetitive strain injury is a symptom) - even if you've done it successfully in the past.
I wasn't familiar with Leslie Sansone so i checked Youtube and it's not true walking around - it's more like marching and dancing in place, which is harder on the knees than walking. Try switching to true walking. If you're going to do Leslie Sansone, i'd shorten the sessions by a lot.
As far as shoes, i would switch to a lower-heeled shoe. The raised heel of the Nike Pegasus (and most other shoes on the market) alters your natural gait and can increase impact forces when walking. Shoes with a lower heel include Converse All-Stars and Keds, and most of the "minimalist" shoes, many of which are listed here: barefootrunningshoes.org/
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295 8/11/12 6:41 P
my knees always go nuts too, stick to swimming, biking, and leslie sansone's pilates you can do dvd...good luck and listen to your doc and knees
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9,646 8/11/12 6:07 P
Glad you went to your doc; Arthritis is no fun, but exercise DOES help (I've seen a huge improvement in my symptoms since I started exercising regularly.)
My workouts: more committed to consistency lately, but not enough of a change to cause the amount of pain I'm feeling
Saw a doctor today. Diagnosis & Suggestions from him:
- repetitive strain injury + left knee is swollen
- reduce amount of exercise (to max 30 minutes a day, but DO keep exercising; don't stop entirely)
- take ibuprofen or naproxen for pain
- possibility of inflammation arthritis (is there any family history?)
My thoughts / suggestions for myself:
- ask Dad about any family history (waiting for a response to this)
- try doing 2 days of walking, then one day of swimming (or other non-walking exercise), then a rest day, repeat
- take NSAID drugs (ibuprofen/naproxen) for pain (and see if they have any/enough effect)
- make appointment with my family doctor for a follow-up, request arthritis screening in blood work (since I'm supposed to get blood work done in September anyway), request xrays if knees are still sore
Did you increase your walking duration or frequency lately?
Which specific shoes did you wear?
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9,646 8/10/12 5:36 P
Remember that it's not the outside of the shoe that matters; it's the inside. The shoe can look find on the outside, but be broken down where it counts... in the padding. Frequently worn shoes break down fast. :)
Thanks for the comments. It's not the shoes; they still look new but I've used them for a few months regularly and not had problems.
I'm going to try ice, ibuprofen, as well as extending my warm ups, cool downs, and stretches (especially my stretches since I suspect that my knees need extra attention there). Someone also sent me a link to a good article on knee pain, so I'm including it here too:
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9,646 8/10/12 11:13 A
I'll echo Coach Jen here. When I start having odd aches and pains in my joints, I check my shoes first. It's amazing how bad shoes can affect everything. Usually they say to replace your shoes every 6 months, or 500 miles. Granted there's a lot of wiggle room in there. :) I don't run often enough to replace mine every 6 months.
And do NOT underestimate the importance of a proper fitting. Go to a specialty running store, and invest in a fitting an a custom pair. It's not as much as you think it will be (it cost me $100 total, including the fitting, about the same as the bog box pair I bought some months before) and the difference is amazing.
Now, if this persists, you may want to check with a doctor... never listen to the old saw about working through the pain. Discomfort is normal, pain is not. Pain is your body telling you something is wrong.
Your post caught my attention b/c my knees are bugging me too. I've been gradually increasing my running miles and recently started running outside more (vs. treadmill). So that explains it for me. I was getting concerned, thinking maybe I should back off. But I just chatted with a couple friends who are serious runners (marathons and the like) and they laughed :) They said yeah that's normal. Just run past it. Take some ibuprofen. Ice it. Take a day or two off.
I hesitate to give you that advice in case you have something really wrong. But I'm going to try to follow their advice. If my knees don't shape up, I'll get it checked out.
My knees have been sore for a couple of days in a row, but I'm not sure why they're sore, nor am I certain on what to do to fix the problem.
This week's workouts:
Monday Aug 6: 45 minute walk (Leslie Sansone) Tuesday Aug 7: 45 minute walk (Leslie Sansone) Wednesday Aug 8: knees sore; rest day Thursday Aug 9: knees still sore; strength training with resistance band (minimal impact on knees)
I'm not new to exercise... In March & April I had over 500 fitness minutes each month, and in May - July I had 300-500 fitness minutes each month.
I was thinking maybe a muscle/joint cream might help - anyone have any suggestions?
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