I tried weight watchers (the old point system) was always hungry. Just got done trying Atkins. Lost 10 pounds. But as soon as I started adding a few carbs (and I mean just a few) I started gaining again. I treadmill for 40 min 3 times a week. Active with walking, snowshoeing, cross country skiing. LOVE to eat healthy. I have 20 pounds I want to lose. I am going to start keeping track daily of what I eat. I guess the only thing I haven't tried is to really watch calorie intake. If anyone has some advice or suggestions I am all ears. I do the treadmill after supper. I find if I do it first thing in the morning I am hungry all day and I eat!