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SHERYLDS
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8/5/13 8:28 P

since you don't need coffee, sugar, bread, sweets, milk, cereal, red meat, and lots of carbs to be healthy and thrive....why worry about what is going to happen in the future.
If and when you come to the point where you decide you don't need to stay away from them, then you can determine if you really want to re-introduce them.

If you are doing fine without them...why tempt fate.
Don't sabotage yourself



FENWAYGIRL18
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8/5/13 8:01 P

I think your going to need to introduce some of these foods even in moderation slowly so you don't gain all your weight back. You should of just cut back on some of them instead of cutting them all out completely .....



ZELDA13
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8/5/13 7:11 P

I would get tired of that strategy after a while. I would introduce the foods you've eliminated gradually. This will give you a chance to see how you react to them. I know I have trigger foods that I really should not have because they trigger a need for me to eat more than I should.



GRAMMYBRENDA2
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8/5/13 6:03 P

I don't believe in denying yourself either. Too many times I have tried that, and then went overboard when I let my eating get out of control.



BLUENOSE63
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8/5/13 6:46 A

If you wish to keep up the journey I would go with ZIGGY122 plan of moderation rather than eradicating the food entirely from your life.



ZIGGY122
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8/4/13 8:39 A

All the things you say no to... take one item at a time and incorporate into you diet plan... eat in small portion .. as you are dieting... if you gain... I would put that on a list of seldom ate foods... never completely omit any food.... if I stayed the same weight I would put that on my weekly list... and if I lost I would put it on my day list.. just a thought for you to try.? So when you get to goal weight .. and add all these no's ... you'll body might get overwhelmed and gain instead... of maintaining.



WLIBERTY
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8/4/13 8:39 A

I don't think you should cut out anything. You should learn to eat some things in moderation.



KKKAREN
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8/4/13 8:21 A

go for moderation, proper portion control!



LOSE4LIFE47
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8/3/13 1:05 P

yes



EMPRESSAMQ
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8/3/13 1:04 P

I have eliminated foods (like gluten) for health but as far as weight goes, I personally would not do anything anymore that I was not willing to do the rest of my life. I used to be different and think it was ok to just not eat certain things for weight purposes, but really, this is a lifetime journey and I had to learn HOW to maintain before I got rather good at maintaining.

But everyone is different. Only you can know.



CSROBERTSON621
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8/3/13 12:40 P

Part of my maintenance strategy has been to continue to say "no" to certain things that give me problems. I have tried -- and failed at -- the "everything in moderation" strategy in the past, because certain foods just seem to trigger the need to eat, and eat, and eat. So I don't have them! Or rather, I have had them only VERY rarely, and in controlled situations where I can't do too much damage. Cake is one of these things. I managed to have a slice of my sister's wedding cake, and only one. But more recently I tried to have "just one" slice of birthday cake this year, and it didn't turn out so good... because I got talked into bringing the leftovers home, and I ended up having "just one" slice four more times in the next two days before I threw the rest out. (Plus I endured about a week of persistent "sweet tooth" cravings after that.) So it'll be a while before I do cake again, if ever.

Luckily, most of the foods I can't tolerate well don't have a lot of nutritional value, and once I've gotten used to not having them, I don't crave them after a while and the "no" becomes automatic instead of a difficult decision. I've learned to love (and even crave) fruits and veggies instead, and that helps a lot.

As others have said, you need to figure out what will work for you for the rest of your life. The stuff you don't miss much now that you've cut it out is an easy decision -- if you don't miss it, and you don't need it, don't eat it! There are tougher decisions about foods that you do miss. For me, as long as they are not "triggers", these are the "in moderation" choices -- I have them with some regularity, but not every day and not in large quantities. They feel like an indulgence when I have them, but they don't throw my whole plan out of whack for days afterward.

Be patient with all of this. It will take some time to figure out what is going to work for you, and it may change over time. Just stay mindful of your calorie intake, and pay attention to what foods make this journey easier or harder on you. Eventually much of this becomes automatic, but I'm not sure I'll ever be able to stop paying attention entirely -- unless I want to end up back where I started.



SUZIEQUE77
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8/3/13 12:17 P

I believe that any plan should really be a plan you feel you can live with the rest of your life, although if you reach your goal and don't want to continue losing, you would add back larger portions or a snack of the same types of food you eat on your eating plan. People who have plans that are too restrictive tend to gain back everything they lost, and quickly, when they go off the plan. That is my opinion.

If you don't really miss coffee, sugar, sweets, and red meat, you can be perfectly healthy for the rest of your life (maybe more so) without adding those back.

I have to have my coffee and would never give up bread, cereal and many other carbs. But I eat very little of rich sweets or red meats. The meat, I just don't care for. The sweets are addictive and a weakness and I just fully realize I am better off cutting those out of my life forever than trying to tell myself I can just have a little.



BANKER-CHUCK
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8/3/13 12:05 P

You can reintroduce the foods you like but keep track of them on your nutrition chart. Lets face it, you cannot deny them forever so you must learn to eat them responsibly.



PAPASNAPDRAGON
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8/3/13 10:55 A

yes



EOWYN2424
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8/3/13 10:47 A

You should completely cut out certain foods or certain food groups. Everything in moderation! I even allow myself things like KFC, McDonald's, pizza and potato chips occasionally. Ok, maybe a little too often, but I am working on it!

Life's no fun if you're restrict too much!!!! And it could wreck havoc on your body if they are reintroduced to your diet all at once! Remember the 80/20 rule!



LOUNMOUN
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8/3/13 3:06 A

I also think you should have some of these foods if you plan to have them when you reach your goal so you will learn how to keep up your healthy lifestyle.
You could have much smaller amounts than you used to. You could figure out the healthiest versions for you.



TRACYDH
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8/1/13 9:30 P

I cut a lot of things out at first, especially when weaning off sugar. Now that I've been at it for a couple of months, I allow myself to have things when I want them.
The trick here is I have smaller portions (a cookie, not a box of cookies :), I don't keep 'danger' foods in the house, and I track religiously - it still has to fit within my calorie goals, and I can't be skimping on nutrients to get it!
I find I am seeing this as a lifestyle choice, which I think bodes well for this being a long term thing for me.
There are also some foods I still say no to, but it's mainly because the calories just aren't worth it - I can think of better tasting things to use those calories on. What a mind shift for me!
You never want to feel deprived, I think - but you do need a period of adjustment to remind you how good real, nutrient-rich food tastes. You will find that some of your old favourites just aren't that great anymore.



HAPPYJAY
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8/1/13 9:11 P

no is the most used word



JANIEWWJD
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8/1/13 9:09 P

Just use portion control. It works!!!!



MANDIETERRIER1
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8/1/13 8:38 P

I agree with moderation

I don't know about you but I would severely limit certain food by calling them bad and then a party or holiday would come along. I would have some of the forbidden food and go on a three day binge.

Now that I know I can have stuff in moderation. It helps prevent binges

Edited by: MANDIETERRIER1 at: 8/5/2013 (21:03)


LADYCJM
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8/1/13 8:25 P

I agree with enjoying in moderation!
With the exception of "trigger foods". I can NOT have chips in the house. I will eat all of them. No willpower, no moderation!
Everything else is okay as long as no more than 1 serving a day and within my allotted calories!.



MISS*J
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8/1/13 8:11 P

Hi there,

I completely understand why you cut these foods out because that is what I have typically done in the past. I have always thought that I could not lose weight unless I cut out carbs from my diet. In fact, I was so convinced of this that I didn't rejoin Sparkpeople for a really long time and kept doing diets like South Beach and 17 day, in which I would lose a bunch of weight very quickly, but then gain it all back and then some.

I don't think you will gain it back though! I don't want to worry you about that. I think now you can start to add some of those things back in little by little and just make sure that you're adding them wisely to get all of your needed nutrients.

I ultimately echo what everyone else has said here because I truly believe that in order to keep off the weight and really make a lifestyle change, you can't cut anything out. Just going in with that mind frame can set you up for disappointment. It's better to look at things as what am I going to add to my diet? Instead of what am I going to take away? This is something I have only recently learned.

So, I've added fruits and vegetables to my diet. I've added water. I've added grains and more protein. I've added the occasional sweets.

I don't think you did yourself in or anything like that because as long as, going forward, you adjust your diet I think you will be just fine.

Good luck with everything. :)



MILLIFRED
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8/1/13 8:06 P

I have reached my goal by NOT cutting out any of my favorite foods; I just control the portions I eat



JILL1962
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8/1/13 8:01 P

Hello KITTYDELIGHTLY,

I too believe that it is better to incorporate these foods in moderation as you have no intention of cutting them out forever so it will be harder to add them back in later.

No food should be off limit unless there are health issues involved such as diabetes or high blood pressure that you are concerned about.

If I cut anything out then it seems to be the first thing that I crave and drive myself crazy over and label it as "Bad" in my mind. So I don't do that anymore.

I just started "seriously" back with SparkPeople and switched to the new tracker that incorporates your exercise calories, this is helping me stay on track and allowing me to have some wiggle room with my eating plan so that if I exercise that day I can allow for more food and if I don't exercise that day then I know my calorie allowance is less.

You may want to try this out and see if it works for you. This is going to take us all a while to get to our goal and we may as well enjoy the journey. It's not supposed to be about deprivation it's supposed to be about change so go ahead and enjoy some of the things that make you happy and don't be so hard on yourself. You just have to figure out what foods are a trigger for you and be diligent about portions. My weakness is chips so I tend not to have them in the house on a regular basis and when I do buy them ( a few times a month to be honest) I portion them out and enjoy them (without the guilt)!

I lost 20 and gained it back by letting things slide as I had done such a good job losing the weight and then got tired of the "DIET" and rewarded myself by eating things again that I had given up so I am determined not to go down that road again. It takes too long to lose the weight and way to quick to gain it back so I need to make peace with my trigger foods and have them while I'm in control of them and not the other way around.

So say "No" to deprivation and "Yes" to living and enjoy your food just don't go crazy and ease them back in one at a time!





REYNINGSUNSHINE
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8/1/13 7:42 P

It is my personal belief that cutting out entire food groups without medical need is unhealthy. It's also not particularly healthy to lose more than 1% of your body weight a week.

I'm going to suggest to you what I suggest to everybody: eat what you want. Don't make any food off limits. But eat it in moderation. If you want a piece of candy, eat the darn piece of candy, but don't eat the entire bag. If you want a bowl of ice cream, eat a half cup of the ice cream, but don't eat the entire pint. Just knowing you *can* have the foods you enjoy can help your mental health quite extremely.

The truth is, if you don't learn how to enjoy foods in moderation, when you get to your goal weight, you're either going to a) have to continue to restrict them or b) gain the weight back from over-indulging in the foods because you don't know how to moderate yourself. So stop thinking, "I want to lose weight quickly so these foods are off limits." Start living a lifestyle that is sustainable to you.



-CORAL-
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8/1/13 6:50 P

"Is it better to eat these foods in moderation while I work to lose weight instead of cutting them out completely if I plan to eat them again in the future?"

Yes, it is SP's philosophy to not cut out any food groups you intend to eat once reaching goal, reintroducing these foods after goal is likely to make you gain weight because you will not have learned to incorporate them into your diet in a healthy way.



KITTYDELIGHTLY
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8/1/13 6:08 P

For over two months, I have cut out many of the foods I used to eat, including coffee, sugar, bread, sweets, milk, cereal, red meat, and lots of carbs.

I did this so that I could lose weight quickly and boy have I! I am a little concerned that if I start to eat these items again that I will gain weight once I reach my goal (which is when I have stated I will "allow" myself these foods again).

Is it better to eat these foods in moderation while I work to lose weight instead of cutting them out completely if I plan to eat them again in the future?



 
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