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MANDIETERRIER1
Posts: 13,644
7/23/13 10:20 P

I don't know about the apple store but its $3.99 and not $9.99 at the android store. I wouldn't be surprised I find everything with the apple logo to be overpriced



FIELDWORKING
SparkPoints: (23,568)
Fitness Minutes: (46,233)
Posts: 643
7/23/13 3:38 P

I don't bother with the sparkpeople app on my iphone. I realize that it's about having access on the go. I don't feel that I need it. Maybe the app is better for people that travel a lot or don't always have access to a computer.



WHOLENEWME79
Posts: 935
7/23/13 2:16 P

I had the free app, and when my phone died I had to switch and saw the app was $3.99. I;ve used SP for years and never purchased anything from the website. I have never clicked an add. I never bought a DVD of theirs. So I figured, why not buy the $3.99 app?

The new app is much better than the old one, in my opinion. Runs better, less lag, I like the barcode scanner... Of course, I chose to, because I value what sparkpeople has helped me accomplish and I understand that everything else is free if I chose for it to be.

I find it worthwhile. Based on your post, you don't find SP to be a worthwhile product. So be happy with MFP, it sounds like more your speed, anyway.



MC0387
SparkPoints: (1,819)
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Posts: 40
7/23/13 12:14 P

You make a good point, Russell. That's a good story :)


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CANDACEMM
Posts: 1,007
7/23/13 12:03 P

Um ... I guess that you guys didn't see the app in the apple store for $9.99. I swear within the last few months I looked at the apple app store and saw a sparkpeople app for $9.99.





RUSSELL_40
Posts: 16,826
7/23/13 11:52 A

I can't stop thinking of an app my friend bought for 99 cents. All it did was make a farting noise. One has to wonder if the SP app is 4X as valuable as the ability to make your phone make farting noises. If so, you might not consider $3.99 to be such an outrage.



MANDIETERRIER1
Posts: 13,644
7/23/13 11:47 A

If I was away from my computer and had to rely on my tablet and phone. I would absolutely buy the app. Using the free Nutrition chart on my tablet is really slow and takes a long time to load. The phone is a little better.

Probably the only app that I would ever pay for. Never say Never



Edited by: MANDIETERRIER1 at: 7/23/2013 (11:50)


SASKITOBA
SparkPoints: (3,042)
Fitness Minutes: (1,174)
Posts: 48
7/23/13 11:12 A

Yeah, IMO it's kind of like when FB changes their layout and everyone freaks out. It's a free site that you voluntarily use. Yes, it's a small fee but compared to the rest of the multibillion dollar weight-loss industry, it's small potatoes



BANDOMOM1
SparkPoints: (3,251)
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Posts: 336
7/23/13 9:04 A

I personally will pay that $3.99, some of the Free ones just don't have what SP has. I love this site.



LDHAWKE
SparkPoints: (19,069)
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Posts: 771
7/22/13 6:25 P

I'd pay $4.00 for the app. Heck, I've paid more for a game! The SP app is worth it. I just wish they would sell it on NOOK.

PLEASE SELL IT ON NOOK!



CALLMECARRIE
Posts: 1,598
7/22/13 5:45 P

Yeah, I just don't get the "shame on you" part, when you're talking about a free website that helps people who are trying to lose weight in sensible ways. $4 for an app? IMO, a tempest in a teapot.



DRAGONCHILDE
SparkPoints: (56,714)
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Posts: 9,619
7/22/13 5:20 P

Actually, LEC358, a *good* app absolutely does cost a lot to develop. Sure, you can crank out simple, or crappy apps quickly using point and click or user friendly software, but things get far more complicated when you have complex tasks to complete and are integrating with an existing infrastructure, and want it to sync with an established website with custom software.

Throw in the costs of keeping it functional through operating system updates, changes on the site itself, updated information and dynamic content? You're talking major development time and upkeep.

Just because the app store is littered with free or cheap apps someone churned out in their basement doesn't mean that Sparkpeople can or wants to do the same. By not being willing to shell out for slightly more expensive apps, many people are missing out on a world of fantastic, high-quality apps.

thenextweb.com/apps/2011/04/24/why-you-sho
uld-want-to-pay-for-apps/

www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2413580,00.a
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Ad-supported apps can be invasive, resource hogging nightmares, and some things just don't work properly with them. You may not pay in money, but you'll pay; in poorer functionality, poorer quality, time, resources, and many other hidden ways that wouldn't be there if you'd just sprung a couple of bucks for quality paid apps.

One of my favorite apps, for example, is Zombies, Run!

www.zombiesrungame.com

I paid $7.99. (On sale right now for $3.99, too!)But it is hands down one of the most high-quality apps I've ever used. The voice acting is top notch, the app itself is constantly updated, versatile, and super slick, the customer support is amazing, and honestly, the app itself is worth twice its price. It's fun, it's *unique*, and it's worth every penny I spent on it.

I've bought terrible fast food for that much. I don't want to think about how many impromptu trips to the store on shoes I haven't worn, or shirts that didn't fit quite right, for more than that.

Why on earth are we willing to admit that quality costs more when it comes to tangible products, but refuse to admit it's possible when it comes to software? I don't understand it. Software takes time, expertise, and effort to make. Why not invest in things that are worthwhile?

Isn't your body, your health worth $4? Skip the beverages twice at a restaurant and drink water, and you've broken even.



SOJAIDED35
SparkPoints: (802)
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Posts: 5
7/22/13 11:51 A

That happened to me too and I was like what? Why is it 3.99? I have NEVER paid for an app/game or anything either. I use Noom weight loss coach on my phone because if Im out and eat something I'd like to be accountable. Then I log it on spark on the computer when I get home.



WADINGMOOSE
Posts: 1,044
7/22/13 11:36 A

It's cheaper than a lot of things - like diet books...

That said, I haven't bought it. I found I rarely used it and it's only once in awhile that I feel like I want to record something on the fly.

Now, if the new one let me log into the site and spin the wheel, I might be convinced - still seeking the perfect attendance award. emoticon



JUDY1260
SparkPoints: (2,712)
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Posts: 203
7/21/13 3:18 P

"Apps don't actually cost that much to develop if you know what you're doing. "

You're paying for someone's knowledge and expertise. The more knowledge the creator has, the better the app.

Edited by: JUDY1260 at: 7/21/2013 (15:20)


JUDY1260
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7/21/13 3:14 P

I agree with Russell. Someone got paid for creating that app.

You can complain about the one time $3.99 fee and not get it.

Or you can pay the $3.99 one time fee (which is probably less than one percent of your weekly paycheck) and use it as a tool towards a healthier lifestyle.

The choice is yours.



RUSSELL_40
Posts: 16,826
7/21/13 2:04 P

SP is a business. If they lose money, they shut down, and no more site, or apps, or anything. The idea that they should be ashamed for charging for a product they produce is ludicrous. If you want it for free, log on your computer, and use that tracker.

You are paying a one time $3.99 fee so that you can use the tracker at any time of the day. This is something " extra " you choose to use, that is not necessary. This would be a steal at $3.99 a month.

I could understand saying it sucks. None of us like to pay for things, but life isn't free, and in the end SP is a business, and has to make money. If you don't want to pay the fee, then don't, but SP shouldn't be ashamed of providing a wonderful service, for a minimal fee.

You should be saying thank you instead. They don't need to provide this service for you.



WATERDIAMONDS
Posts: 14,756
7/21/13 3:09 A

As long as SP keeps the majority of its site free, as originally designed, I'll support it with the $3.99 for an app.



FP4HLOSER
Posts: 968
7/20/13 6:16 P

The cost of the app has nothing to do with the cost of coffee anyways. I do agree though---if you feel it was worth the money then pay for it. I still have the free version on my phone but never use it so of course would never buy it. emoticon



MANDIETERRIER1
Posts: 13,644
7/20/13 5:09 P

I have never paid for an app either. And the ones that are free with in app purchases. I only use the free portion.

I have considered buying the app but I am not away from my desktop computer long enough to make it worth while.



HUNNA13
Posts: 180
7/19/13 5:40 P

I can safely say I have never purchased anything from a Starbucks before...and I also have never purchased a game on my phone. While some people may be into that, I spend 90% of my time outdoors and don't even own a tv. Call me old fashioned for being 26 years old, but I find that sort of entertainment a waste of time. So...while you think it is ok to spend the money for the app, that is fine. That is your choice; I am just saying, as well as a few other posters, that it is a shame they just started charging for it considering it has been free for years.



CMCOLE
Posts: 2,667
7/19/13 10:56 A

I usually just open the browser and log my stuff.
It may not be as fancy as an app, but it's my money.

And, no, to answer another response, I've not paid for any apps, either.
There may come a day when I wish to do so - but I get (thus far) everything I need for free.

For resources - I prefer my laptop or tablet - so I can actually see the articles, etc., to read.
Perhaps I'm old, and am completely new to a "smart" phone (having only just got it recently), but that's my choice, I suppose.

Edited by: CMCOLE at: 7/19/2013 (10:57)


BEANBYDESIGN
SparkPoints: (31,282)
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Posts: 1,021
7/19/13 10:34 A

Are you seriously telling me you've never paid for a game on your phone? So it's cool for the Angry Birds people to charge you to fling birds at pigs, but you're upset that a company that provides thousands of hours of content on the web for free - content that's integral to health and wellness - charges a one-time fee for its app?

I get that we're all used to getting this content for free, so the change is surprising, but $3.99 is an extremely small price to pay for the amazing information we get here. I was on Weight Watchers' site for a while - at $15 PER MONTH! - and they don't have half the information SparkPeople is able to provide. Same goes for other competitors - I did a free trial of Jillian Michaels' site as well, and again, found that SP's resources were far, far more complete. The competitors that are free - like MFP - don't have nearly as much (or, in some cases, any) expert-written content the way SP does. For me, the access to a site as complete as this one, with consistent expert input not only in the form of articles, but through their participation on the message boards, is worth four bucks.



FATALLYCUTE
SparkPoints: (6,343)
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Posts: 61
7/19/13 10:04 A

At first I was upset, but its a one time fee and I love it. Sparkpeople have been keeping me on track and its nice to know I have the app so I cant make any excuses.



DSCH1207
Posts: 70
7/19/13 9:48 A

Look, just IGNORE the ads if you dont like them and pay the ONE TIME fee for an app that could, quite frankly, save your life. I love the app and how it integrates with the site. I can track on the go, at work or at home. I've never tried MyFitnessPal because I liked SparkPeople so much when I found it. I didn't have a credit card on file to buy apps but when I wanted the app, I put one on there just to buy it. We're lucky we're getting everything else for free. If not, the world would be a much fatter place!



LOUIE-LILY
Posts: 2,046
7/19/13 9:45 A

I'm still getting the free version on my Galaxy s3, but don't know if that will change. I'll pay the $3.99 though if it comes to that - I think it's worth it. . . best diet app out there.



LEC358
SparkPoints: (9,248)
Fitness Minutes: (6,555)
Posts: 2,110
7/19/13 7:20 A

Apps don't actually cost that much to develop if you know what you're doing. Friends of mine who have developed apps on their own and sell them for $0.99 or are just ad supported make back their costs within the first 1000 downloads. I've said this once and I'll say it again, even if SP needs to lose all the forum data, they should seriously consider moving to a more efficient web structure than what they have right now.



ANARIE
Posts: 12,406
7/18/13 8:21 P

The app costs a lot of money to develop and maintain. Even at that price, they're losing money. If they didn't charge for it, they would have to take money out of operations of the main site to pay for the app, or just not offer the app at all. I agree that $4 isn't much to pay. The only apps I've found for free are ones that only exist to provide a way to buy other things, or that constantly try to trick you into buying an upgrade.



CUTIE327
SparkPoints: (5,620)
Fitness Minutes: (7,120)
Posts: 36
7/18/13 7:31 P

I noticed that too. Yesterday I bought a nook and I was going to download the SP mobile app but when I saw it was $3.99, I was like no way.



CATCHPSU
Posts: 318
7/18/13 6:41 P

If you got the app through the Amazon app store, check your apps. You can have the old app for free.



BUNNYKICKS
Posts: 2,299
7/18/13 6:34 P

"SP has been known for free advice/help and weight loss tools, and now it seems like they are just out to make a quick buck somewhere"

I imagine they're not making too many quick bucks on that app... more like covering the cost of producing/providing it. There is such a wealth of free information and tools here, I can't begrudge them from trying to, say, pay the electricity bill that runs the servers that enables us to access the free stuff.



LDHAWKE
SparkPoints: (19,069)
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Posts: 771
7/18/13 6:12 P

I agree with the others. I checked out My Fitness Pal and did not like it at all. I'll stay here and track my success.



SLASALLE
SparkPoints: (165,576)
Fitness Minutes: (67,827)
Posts: 9,175
7/18/13 6:03 P

Actually, if you get a grande, $3.99 is LESS than the price of a latte!!!

I have to say that I agree. SparkPeople has TONS of stuff on the site that remains free, so I've got no problem with the $3.99 for the added benefit.

Sadly, Spark can't win for losing though. They take ads to support the site so it can be free to everybody, then get complaints about the ads.



NSMANN
Posts: 965
7/18/13 5:56 P

$3.99 is the price of a latte at Starbucks ... if you really think you're not getting $3.99 worth of value out of an app you will probably use every day then best of luck to you with my fitness pal. For my money, I will support the website that supports my weight loss efforts.



HUNNA13
Posts: 180
7/18/13 5:51 P

I just recently upgraded my phone, and was going to put the tracker back on my phone because I was logging all my foods pretty much on the go with the nature of my job. I realized today that they are now charging $3.99 for it! This is incredibly disappointing due to the fact over the years SP has been known for free advice/help and weight loss tools, and now it seems like they are just out to make a quick buck somewhere.. I understand every business has to make money at some point, but this was just extremely disappointing. I will now be converting back to My Fitness Pal; their trackers seem to be a bit more accurate anyways. Sad :(



 
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