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UNIDENT
Posts: 33,498
7/19/12 2:56 A

TAOZEN you are misunderstanding how advertising works.

When you see an advertisement for a gentleman's apparel store in the local newspaper, do you believe that the newspaper editorial team are endorsing and supporting that store and suggesting it to you as an especially great place to go buy clothes? Of course they're not - they're selling the ad space and the store bought it. As long as they're not illegal or particularly heinous in some way, the newspaper will be glad to have their money.

It's worse on the web - as was already pointed out to you, the websites do not get to choose what ads are displayed on their own sites. Sparkpeople did not sign an advertising contract with Sensa, would not have known that Sensa are even going to be advertising here, and will only remove an ad if it is actually offensive/objectionable in some way.

Sensa may not work. It certainly isn't harmful, and some people might find it useful. So why should they remove it? It just doesn't cut it as objectionable until and unless one can show that it is harmful in some way (eg they pretty quickly kill ads here for anything claiming massive losses per week, as that's unhealthy - but Sensa doesn't).



DISPATCHGIRL32
Posts: 125
7/15/12 5:53 P

I think it is best to stick with natural losses if possible granted some may need more help...I have tried alot of things but i havent and will not try sensa I just dont see how it could possibly work ...



ANARIE
Posts: 12,355
7/13/12 9:10 P

The main concern with Sensa is that their advertising and marketing strategies are deceptive, or at least sneaky. They make you think you're getting a "free trial" when in fact it's an extremely short-term partial refund offer. You have to cancel and send it back within 30 days to get back the purchase price (but you still pay shipping and handling BOTH ways), and you have to return it within 30 days of PURCHASE, not withing 30 days of receiving it. If they're slow to ship, your "trial" period is over before you've really had a chance to try it. And on top of that, you're signed up for an automatic shipment, and if they ship the second month's order before you cancel, you can't get your money back for that one. Long story short, trying it with an internet or TV offer is going to cost you $50-$100 even if you decide you don't want it.

If you must try it, they sell it at Costco and a few other retail sources now. It's still not going to work, but at least you'll lose less money and have less hassle if you buy it in a store.



RACKMYBRAINS
Posts: 435
7/13/12 7:28 P

Ugh, I just researched this... Sensa is a mixture of maltodextrin, tricalcium phosphate, silica, "natural flavors," and "milk and soy ingredients."

... and the science is that participants lost an average of 30.5 pounds over a period of 6 months. Not particularly impressive, really.

I wouldn't touch it with a 10-foot pole. I'll stick with natural weight loss and exercise.





DRAGONCHILDE
SparkPoints: (56,306)
Fitness Minutes: (14,204)
Posts: 9,583
7/13/12 7:21 P

That's not how ads work on websites, though. On any website you're on, when you see ads, those ads are served by software that a third part software provided by an ad service. It might be Google adsense, Doubleclick, something like that.

The company that uses the ads sets up a profile that indicates what kind of ads they prefer, and which kind they don't. The ad service then provides ads that meet that profile, as well as your personal browsing profile, and the content of the page itself.

The advertisers try to game this system, by tricking their way into pages that they shouldn't be. Sensa probably has keywords like "weight loss", "healthy" and "diet" in their profiles, and if that's what Sparkpeople has, they match! Each click that you make on a webpage on an ad will provide a tiny bit of revenue to Sparkpeople... and that's why you see ads at all, so Sparkpeople can keep the lights on!

It's definitely not about an endorsement. Just like the TV shows you see aren't endorsing the commercials you see there. It's just advertising. :)

Edited by: DRAGONCHILDE at: 7/13/2012 (19:22)


TAOZEN
Posts: 237
7/13/12 7:09 P

I did think it was odd that Sensa was advertising on SP. It makes it look as if Sensa is endorsed by SP.



MAGGIEMURPHY4
SparkPoints: (13,865)
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Posts: 936
7/13/12 12:42 P

I don't even look at the ads on any of my web pages...because that is just what they are ads promoting their products in the best light and manipulating the facts. I change the channel when commercials come on the TV and radio too. I thought everybody did this...LOL and could never understand why companies paid so much money to be ignored.

I would only take issue if spark posted or recommended a commercial product to receive a profit on the sales.



DRAGONCHILDE
SparkPoints: (56,306)
Fitness Minutes: (14,204)
Posts: 9,583
7/13/12 12:33 P

There's no need to be wary of Sparkpeople because of one message board post. Basically, Sparkpeople neither approves nor disapproves of Sensa. There's no official statement, because there's no real research regarding Sensa that's reliable. The ads they show here are run through a special program that they don't control. They can request certain things be removed, but they don't review or endorse any of the ads they show. Assuming they use something like Google adsense, it will be based on the content of the web page, your personal browsing habits, and the site's business profile as they set up with the advertiser.

Generally though, Sparkpeople recommends a sensible, balanced diet and exercise regimen. Sensa doesn't have any evidence of working that's reliable.

Edited by: DRAGONCHILDE at: 7/13/2012 (12:53)


SSHEEHY1
Posts: 90
7/13/12 12:25 P

That seems to be a fabulously crafted NONanswer to the question. Do we have to go Mike Wallace on you? I also was considering trying Sensa, but now I'm wary. And now I'm wary of SP, too.



TONKA14
Posts: 4,947
4/5/12 9:24 A

While we don't necessarily endorse every product that is advertised on our website, we do our best to block ads that are misleading, unsafe, offensive or contradictory to our medically-accepted recommendations for healthy living and weight loss. You can learn more about our ad policy here --> www.sparkpeople.com/resource/motivation_ar
ticles.asp?id=1454


We encourage all our members to send an email to adreport@sparkpeople.com if they see ads they feel are inappropriate.

Coach Tanya



ANARIE
Posts: 12,355
4/4/12 9:02 P

No. Sparkpeople doesn't choose the ads that appear, and they don't advocate any of the products. The ads are powered by Google, just like the ones on cnn.com and a lot of other big sites.

I think they did try to block the Sensa ads, in fact. If you post this in the Technical Help board, they might be glad to know that it's back so they can throw it off again.



RADIOTIKSPARK1
SparkPoints: (7,841)
Fitness Minutes: (2,813)
Posts: 638
4/4/12 9:01 P

Oh yuck!



CINDYSUNFLOWER
SparkPoints: (17,827)
Fitness Minutes: (4,564)
Posts: 647
4/4/12 9:00 P

I notice that Sensa is advertised on this SparkPeople website and I'm wondering if the experts are supporting using Sensa as a weight loss tool? Thanks for your quick reply to my message!



 
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