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KURS10B
Posts: 4,612
8/14/13 5:23 P

I quit smoking cold turkey several years ago because I was so sick with every "itis" you can get that I couldn't breathe. The first month was hard, but my advice is gum. Not crap gum like juicy fruit, but strong gum like orbit. Something that the flavor sticks around. Once I got over the withdraws I haven't looked back. I feel better and I can breathe. I no longer have a stuffed up nose all day long. I also rarely get sick.



LOVEFIT30
Posts: 2,936
8/12/13 11:04 P

The Easyway to Stop Smoking by Allan Carr.

My husband and I read it and quit almost 4.5 years ago.



KDRICH24
Posts: 267
8/12/13 11:02 P

My question is, did you stop cold turkey or did you slowly quit? I think cold turkey would BE SO HARD! Have you tired the gum or the e-cig?



AUGUSTREADY
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8/12/13 10:58 P

Interesting...I am quite fascinated by this.

Please don't take my curiosity the wrong way...I'm just really interested to understand.

So - you did not increase your caloric intake, increased your physical output and still gained over 40 pounds?

When you say you started watching what you ate, did you accurately track your food intake into a nutritional tracker like the one on this site?

And did you have a clear picture before you gave up smoking about how much you were eating and burning off each day?

Is there a possibility you became more focussed on food after you gave up smoking? Which resulted in you consuming more food, more regularly?



CORTNEY-LEE
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8/12/13 10:27 P

I am not 100% sure because after 3 years of working my hind-end off and getting no where, my doctor and myself decided that Weight Loss surgery was an appropriate action.

Everything seems to be normal now. My weight loss has leveled out and I am training hard and eating well. Still tracking every calorie good and bad :)





MEGAPEEJ
Posts: 732
8/12/13 10:20 P

How long did it take for your metabolism (or other factors) eventually even out? I see you're now at 126 lbs, which means those changes eventually did what they were supposed to. So it would be reasonable to think that if someone quit smoking and gained, that eventually it should come off again with continued monitoring of nutrition and exercise, yeah?

Congratulations on quitting, and taking so many steps at once to care for your health!



CORTNEY-LEE
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8/12/13 9:46 P

The reason I say there are other factors is because when I quit smoking in 2009, I revamped my entire lifestyle. I started watching what I ate, tracking my food, gave up soda, alcohol, and started a regular exercise program. A very strange thing happened... I started to gain weight.

I went to the doctor and had every blood test under the sun done, and everything tested within normal limits, yet despite everything I was doing, the weight would not come off and kept increasing.

By 2010, I had gained over 40 pounds despite a restricted calorie diet (1200-1500) and a regular exercise program which included cardio and strength training.

Prior to that, I weighed about 210 pounds, drank like a fish, ate fast food several times a day most days of the week, and did absolutely nothing. The second i started exercising and watching my food intake I could drop weight. I just chose not to.

The only difference is I was a smoker.

So, I may be a freak of nature, but it seems to me that there are other factors that can contribute to weight gain when you quit other than increasing food intake

That is not to say I am not thankful I quit - actually quitting was the best thing I ever did for my health - and even if I gained weight, I don't regret it


Edited by: CORTNEY-LEE at: 8/12/2013 (21:47)


SIMPLELIFE2
Posts: 704
8/12/13 7:36 P

Smoking and Metabolism
Research shows that nicotine from tobacco boosts the body's metabolic rate, increasing the number of calories it burns. Immediately after you smoke a cigarette, your heart rate increases by 10 to 20 beats a minute. The unnatural stimulant effect of nicotine is one reason smoking causes heart disease.

When smokers quit, metabolic rate quickly returns to normal. That's a healthy change. But if ex-smokers keep getting the same number of calories as before, they put on pounds.

www.webmd.com/smoking-cessation/features/q
uit-without-weight-gain__


Not a reason to smoke but a response to questions posed on this thread.



SIMONEKP
Posts: 2,481
8/12/13 6:09 P

smoking doesn't give you a higher BMR, and quitting doesn't cause weight gain- that's oral fixation- the need to have something in your mouth. Smokers typically quit but eat more because of the need to have something between their lips- try sugar-free gum and good luck.



AUGUSTREADY
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8/12/13 5:42 P

I'm very curious about this statement - "there are other factors that contribute to weight gain after you quit than eating".

I've never heard of anyone gaining weight other than by consuming more energy than they need.

Is there any scientific evidence that demonstrates a smokers metabolism really changes that much that it would result in a significant weight gain (from memory the original poster said she gained 20 pounds last time, which is significant)?

Apologies if my cynicism is going to cause offence, but I don't believe it's metabolism changes resulting in significant weight gain when you quit.

If you are tracking your food now and continue to track it when you quit that would be an easy way to tell if it's really your metabolism or simply an increase in consumption due to increased appetite or desire to have something in the mouth...

If your tracking shows your caloric intake remains the same and you are gaining weight, then clearly you need to drop your food intake until the body recalibrates.

But, like I said, I've never seen any scientific evidence that shows this is really what happens...

I love to be proven wrong, so keen to see the studies if anyone can point me to them!



MCASKEY6
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8/12/13 5:34 P

I have never smoked myself, but both of my parents smoked, my aunt smoked, and one of my brothers smoke. Itís not a dirty vice, itís not a nasty habit, itís not unpleasant, it is a slow, painful, and terrible death.

My aunt and father both died of smoking related cancer and my mother and brother both have serious illnesses due to smoking.

My father passed away when I was 20. For an entire year, the Drs. chased that cancer from one part of his body to the next. He literally wasted away right in front of us. He was one of the toughest people Iíve ever met, and yet, by the end he was literally begging for his next pain pill and was so weak he had to stay in a wheelchair at all times. He couldnít even get to the toilet without a lot of help. You couldnít even say that he was a shell of what heíd once been.

Quitting is not easy, I watched both my parents try and fail to quit. But if you really love your body as much as you say you do, and you want to be around to enjoy it, STOP SMOKING!

Also itís not just about you. Do you know how angry and sad it makes me to realize that my dad could have lived another 30 years, or more?! He could have been there at my wedding, he could have met his grandchildren and watched them grow up. But instead he smoked. I had/have so much more to say to him, to do with him, to share with him, and I will never have that opportunity.

Plus even though I have never smoked and have lived in a completely smoke-free environment since leaving home, I still have an increased risk of developing the same cancer that killed my father, because my parents smoked throughout my childhood and I was exposed to that.

You can always lose that 25lbs, but you canít get back your life and/or health once they're gone.

Talk to your Dr. consult with a nutritionist; do whatever it takes to finally stop.

Edited by: MCASKEY6 at: 8/12/2013 (17:53)


CORTNEY-LEE
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8/12/13 4:29 P

Don't be scared! You can do it!

Also, there are other factors that contribute to weight gain after you quit other than eating. The good news is you have lots of muscle mass that naturally will boost your metabolism.

You most likely will gain a few pounds but nothing that you can't deal with. Quitting will make training so much easier! I was a long time smoker and I can't tell you how much better I feel since i quit. I haven't smoked since 2009 and it was totally worth it!

Edited by: CORTNEY-LEE at: 8/12/2013 (16:32)


NSMANN
Posts: 963
8/12/13 3:38 P

The only reason people gain when they quit is because they start eating more calories. Count your calories and exercise and you will not gain. Quit smoking!



SKJONGV
Posts: 8
8/12/13 2:09 P

I would recommend an Electric cigarette. You could either continue getting your nicotine that way in a less harmful way and then gradually go with a lower dose of nicotine until you are no longer addicted.

I use one and haven't had a "real" cigarette for several weeks. Haven't felt the need either, really.



AUGUSTREADY
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8/12/13 4:45 A

there are two main reasons why people gain weight when they quit:

- Oral fixation: need something in the mouth; smokes are traded for food.
- Increased appetite: cigarettes are an appetite suppressant; smokers lose the ability to manage their appetite as they've lost the ability to listen to the body.

Both these issues are mental - so you if you're serious about quitting, you need to find a way to mentally deal with this.

Have you ever heard of NLP? If not, can I suggest you look into it...lots of smokers have successfully used these techniques to get through the bad times AND not gain weight...

There are of course lots of other techniques in a similar vein...



SIMPLELIFE2
Posts: 704
8/11/13 10:47 P

"I started again because it wasn't worth the weight gain"

This is a horrible lie that the addict in you is telling yourself. CANCER. Seriously. You would rather risk getting cancer that gain some weight? Is that logical or rational? And even if you don't get cancer, you already are suffering in countless ways. You can't perform your best, You are more prone to sickness. You are literally wasting a ton of money on a product that can kill you.

Yes, you may gain weight when you quit again. Your body's metabolism needs time to re-adjust. Average weight gain is 4 to 10 pounds, so it sounds like more that smoking was going on. You have new tools and new strategies for coping this time around and are more set in your good health habits.

"Talk With Your Doctor
A variety of products and medications are available that have been found to help smokers quit. Several also appear to help quitters keep weight off. In a 2009 review, researchers found that the antismoking drug buproprion and the antidepressant fluoxetine, as well as nicotine replacement therapies and cognitive behavioral therapy, helped limit the amount of weight that smokers gained while quitting."
www.webmd.com/smoking-cessation/features/q
uit-without-weight-gain__?page=2




KJEANNE
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8/11/13 10:34 P

I have never smoked but I think you could talk to your doctor and get some suggestions on how to quit. Maybe a support group might help. Or maybe taking up vaping - electronic smoking might help.



ESCALANTE6306
Posts: 6
8/11/13 10:01 P

This may sound really stupid to some people but I am really searching for help. I have lost 115 lbs. I eat right and train hard. My entire life is focused on being the best me I can be. I approach challenges that scare me because I want to conquer them with everything in me. I don't want to be skinny I want to be strong, I LOVE MUSCLE!

There is only 1 little thing. I am a smoker, it makes no sense I spend hours a week in the gym training my diet is spot on and then I smoke.

Last August I quit and with in 3 months had gained 25 pounds, so I started again because it wasn't worth the weight gain. I am now running mud runs and I know to get to the level of competition I want to get I have to quit. Its the one dirty vice that is keeping me from where I want to be.

To anyone who doesn't smoke its an easy fix. Just QUIT. It is the weight gain that I cant do. I have come to far and refuse to start back stepping now. I need advice or direction. How do I kick this nasty habit to the side with out it effecting my weight and training in a negative way?



 
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