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NO_DEFEAT_HERE
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2/22/12 10:48 A

Oh, and I forgot, I had been exercising quite faithfully before I started P10 and didn't see weight coming off like it is now. I am still exercising like I was before the start of P10 and that probably helps with the weight loss as well.

I know that when I go to stage 2 the weight won't come off as fast & I'm okay with that. I just needed something to jump start the process and help me get over the sugar addiction.



NO_DEFEAT_HERE
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2/22/12 10:45 A

Hello,
I am halfway through my second week of Stage one. I wasn't sure about how strictly I would follow the guidelines for I never had much success with the Atkin's diet. But when I started this, I did so wholeheartedly and now I'm so glad I did. I have lost 5.8 pounds. I had the sugar withdrawal the first few days but by switching to the breakfast smoothie (recipe in the book), I have eliminated that. I am feeling good & seeing inches as well as weight come off.

The nice thing about P10 is that you can jump in at any stage. I started Stage one because I wanted to lose weight & get sugar out of my system. I have a friend who started with stage 3 and she still lost weight just from the elimination of the high fructose corn syrup from her eating.

I have not experienced any cravings nor do I feel as though I'm missing out when I am around others eating sweets. I even went to Dunkin Donuts with family and didn't feel like I was missing out on anything - and the nice thing is, when you can see the body changing, it makes it all worth it. I was even able to bake peanut blossom cookies for my husband & never felt tempted to taste any the chocolate kisses or cookies. (He doesn't have a weight issue and seems to burn everything that he eats off.)

I would recommend trying it at least for the first 3 weeks as closely as you can. See if it makes a difference.



ROZIE13
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2/6/12 3:47 A

Now that it's been a couple more weeks... any more feedback on sticking to this diet? I read the (free) Kindle book finally, and while Dr Aziz is a little strident to my tastes, it's intriguing.

My "problem" is I already only whole grains, almost never have white potatoes, never have margarine, etc - so I won't be getting any of that quick weight loss, alas!



INSOLITO
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1/16/12 7:58 A

off topic- I am so sick of eggs!



BARLOWS1
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1/15/12 10:18 P

Dr Azziz says pumpernichel or rye



INSOLITO
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1/15/12 6:58 P

Some of those Paleo recipes look really good!

As far as bread is concerned, all I remember the book saying was rye or whole wheat, as long as it doesn't have a bunch of additives. If your supermarket has a bakery section, you might be able to find a nice bread there. Also, have you heard of Ezekial bread? That stuff is top notch in terms of healthy grains. You could also try making your own, if you have the time and inclination... there are tons of recipes on allrecipes.com



BARLOWS1
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1/15/12 6:01 P

Thanks for the link. Some of this diet is not going to work for me, so I'm not totally 100% into it, but adding more healthy fats like avocado, eggs and butter I am doing and cutting out the hydrogenated oils. I tried to find whole grain bread yesterday and ended up not buying any because of all the crappy ingredients. Does anyone have any good info on what kind of bread to buy? I found some dark rye and the sodium was 480. Yikes! Couldn't find any pumpernichel at all but if the sodium, sugar and hydro oils are too high I won't buy it.



CINDWOOD
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1/15/12 3:48 P

The Paleo Diet website has some good recipe ideas that are very compatible with the Perfect 10 Diet. I haven't tried any yet but will definitely be making the egg drop soup later today, It is 10 degrees here and this looks like a good recipe to take away the chill.
Here is a link to the site:
http://paleodietlifestyle.com/paleo-diet
-recipes/#recipes


Edited by: CINDWOOD at: 1/15/2012 (15:48)


INSOLITO
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1/15/12 2:23 P

I had the same reaction to the hydrogenated vegetable oils and packaged food in general. So disgusting. I gathered some recipes so I can start making some of the foods that I usually buy packaged at home- like whole wheat bread, granola bars, etc... I feel like it is an exciting new adventure... and I love that the scale is moving in the right direction a little every day.

My problem is with wine... I like to have a few glasses a few times a week and that simply will not fly on this plan. So I am cutting back to once a week to see how that goes!



BARLOWS1
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1/14/12 12:38 P

I've now reached the point in the book regarding the plans. I'm not too crazy about not having ice cream. We'll see how that goes. But we are not huge bread and pasta eaters so I think we can start on Plan 2.

Last Thursday I had been having gallbladder discomfort all day. I cooked some Tilapia in coconut oil and the pain disappeared. I had forgetten how soothing coconut oil is in times of gallbladder pain. I also drink water all day long and no tea or coffee which is also a tremendous help with discomfort.

Now that I am part way through the book, the higher fats in the diet are not a problem because they are healthy fats. Now I'm at the cleaning out the kitchen chapter and I can't believe how many products I have that have hydrogenated vegetable oil in them. Yuck.





CINDWOOD
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1/14/12 9:35 A

I definitely agree with Insolito. I read the book and have been following the plan for one week. However, I follow more of the stage 2 guidelines because I eat a slice of pumpernickel bread a day or a bowl of oatmeal (Not instant). Eating only healthy fats, good carbs and no more processed meat has definitely improved how I feel. I had my gall bladder removed last year but have still had stomach issues and discomfort. They have now disappeared. I lost 4 pounds, have more energy and sleep better. I do not miss sugar products at all...... am loveing trying new fresh veggies and fruit. I just haven't figured out how to calculate the percentages with calories.



BARLOWS1
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1/12/12 6:32 P

GD Bears as I read more into the book I am learning alot that makes sense. I do use coconut and olive oil already because I already know those fats are good for you. I think P10 might be right up my alley. Just have to make sure the calories don't go too high.



GDBEAR65
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1/12/12 1:17 P

I think you may want to do more research on the role of fats. Presumably the diet advocates eating more plant-based saturated fats such as those found in coconut and avocados. These fats are Medium-Chain-Triglycerides (MCTs) which your body uses as a source of energy.

Here is a link to an article on MCTs - www.nutritionreview.org/library/mcts.phpa>

Edited by: GDBEAR65 at: 1/12/2012 (13:31)


ANARIE
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1/12/12 12:11 P

"I do know that when I eat a meal high in good fats that my GB symptoms go away. I had a gastrointerologist prescribe ulcer meds when I told him this."

This actually isn't weird at all. Call that doctor back and ask him to explain. I'm guessing he suspects the problem is something other than your gallbladder, and/or that the meds affect more than just stomach acid.



BARLOWS1
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1/12/12 12:02 P


Thanks so much for your reply. Thats what I was looking for....feedback. I've had the book about a year. Wasn't sure about it, stopped reading it after a chapter or two and then started back up this year again. They are on FB so I have been reading all their posts. He says not to snack between meals unless you are exercising, and thankfully thats not my problem. I'm worried about my obese husband. He snacks between meals even if he's not hungry, eats all the wrong foods and doesn't exercise and doesn't care. Oh well, I guess I'll try it and see what happens. I need to throw away all the crap food in our cupboards that I bought over the holidays, its just that I hate throwing away food.



INSOLITO
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1/12/12 10:58 A

I forgot to mention- I have lost 3 pounds so far



INSOLITO
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1/12/12 10:43 A

Hi! I finished Dr. Aziz's book a few days ago (it is really cheap on the kindle, if you have one). I am on day 3 of phase 1. Phase 1 doesn't eliminate carbs completely, it just eliminates carbs from grains and refined sugar, so you can still eat fruits and veggies, beans, (and dark chocolate!) etc... I actually feel really good. I have a lot of energy and very little appetite. I feel like I ate a TON yesterday and it was only 1500 calories.

He does say that you can lose 15 pounds in the first 3 weeks... but that most of that weight is water weight and from the bowel... so not 15 pounds of fat necessarily.

There are a few of his guidelines that I am not following strictly... I'm still having snacks when I need one, I am still having a cup of coffee in the morning, and I am still including vinegar in my meals.

Anyway, give it a shot and see how you feel. I admit that a lot of what Dr. Aziz says is definitely not the norm but he does a thorough job of backing up his claims with scientific explanations about how certain foods effect each hormone and the endocrine system as a whole.

good luck!



BARLOWS1
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1/10/12 8:36 P

Yes I am under a doctor's care and just had an abdominal CT Scan. Everything came back normal except I have a few small gallstones.

With that in mind, I don't want to aggravate them because I know what a full blown attack feels like. I had one 4 years ago and don't want another.

The Perfect 10 Diet did answer my question on FB. They said their diet would soothe my gallbladder. A low fat diet would not allow my GB to work correctly. So now I am intrigued by this diet. I do know that when I eat a meal high in good fats that my GB symptoms go away. I had a gastrointerologist prescribe ulcer meds when I told him this. Weird. My GP even thought so.

My GP asked me to eat a high fat meal and see how I feel afterward. This was his recommendation on whether or not to have my GB out and whether or not to eat high fat or low fat. So you can see why I'm asking if anyone has tried the Perfect 10 Diet and from the sound of it, it doesn't seem like anyone has. I'm thinking of trying it, just not crazy about eliminating carbs completely for a few weeks. Was not asking for medical advice, just wanted to basically hear about stories from real people who have followed this diet.

Thanks for you time in responding.






ANARIE
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1/10/12 5:34 P

Are you working with a doctor? That has to be the first step, because no one here knows your medical situation. Weight loss usually alleviates gall bladder problems, so you'd probably be okay following a standard, moderate-to-low-fat, *calorie controlled* weight loss program. A low fat diet is not the reason you're overweight. Going too low in fat can cause skin issues and make it harder to absorb certain nutrients, but that's when you're under about 30-40 grams a day. Even an extremely low fat diet won't harm your weight loss unless you're still eating too many calories. Again, ask your doctor first, but if you're going to choose between lower-fat and higher-fat without medical advice, it would make more sense to go lower-fat. But PLEASE don't take our word for this; even a doctor who only sees you once is better than a bunch of strangers on the internet who've never seen you at all.



AILEBBELIA
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1/10/12 3:36 P

I think you should make a new post with a different title so you can get an answer from the spark experts.

Something like.."Is it safe to follow a higher fat diet with gallstone problems?" and the post the macro ranges.

Having it removed was a huge wake up call to avoid fried foods and follow an eating schedule. There is NO medical reason why it would prevent someone from losing weight.

good luck!!



BARLOWS1
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1/10/12 12:40 P

Trying to decide if I should have mine removed and just get it over with. But I have heard people gain weight when its removed and can't seem to lose weight. So that scares me a alot. Plus I'm not to keen on having any organs removed.

I asked P10 Diet how their diet affects people with gallstones and I have yet to get a reply. Will post back when I hear from them.



AILEBBELIA
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1/9/12 6:07 P

No, I stayed about the same. I had to follow a low-fat diet for a couple of weeks, but I continued to follow a lower fat diet for longer. I ate mostly grilled chicken, steamed veggies ....very bland food.









BARLOWS1
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1/9/12 5:46 P

When you had your GB removed did you lose weight?



AILEBBELIA
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1/9/12 2:19 P

Hey,

Ok, now I understand your concern!

I had my gallbladder removed (I lost weight too quickly and with fasting) and I still watch my fat intake.

Hopefully, the dietitian around here or an expert can tell you if it's safe.




BARLOWS1
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1/9/12 1:01 P

Yes its 40 40 20. My fat intake is really low right now. Maybe thats why I'm still over weight. Has anyone tried this diet? I'm not really on a diet, just watching calories and nutrients. But to lose 14 pounds in 2 weeks seems unhealthy to me, when everything I've read says to make it only 2#s a week. I have a problem with my gallbladder. Losing weight too quickly kind of scares me, and a high fat precentage scares me even more, thats why it seems outrageous to me.



BITTERQUILL
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1/9/12 8:02 A

If that's accurate, I wouldn't call it quite "outrageous," considering the fact that the general guideline for fat is 20-35%. It's a bit high but not insane, as long as those fats are healthy ones. I've often seen an ideal range of 30% for each fat and protein and 40% carbs, which is a little higher in protein and lower in carbs than SP's standard ranges.



AILEBBELIA
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1/9/12 1:46 A

Are these the ranges?

"His basic formula is 40% carbs, 40% fats, and 20% protein."



BARLOWS1
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1/8/12 11:42 P

I got this book last year and felt the amount of good fat to eat on a daily basis was outrageous. Has anyone tried this diet? If so, how did you like it? And if you haven't how does everyone feel about it?



 
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