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GRAPHICS2
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6/25/13 9:15 P

I am not from the South, nor am I a fan of Paula Deen's culinary productions, but to "err is human". Whatever happened, seemed to have been a long time ago, when the norm was to behave like that. I am not condoning it, but can't the media give the lady a break.



JIACOLO
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6/25/13 9:04 P

I would agree that this situation is being made too much of it. This happened over 20 years ago after a situation that left her upset and angry. She made a mistake. She is human. We all can think of a time when we said or did something out of anger that we later wish we hadn't.



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6/25/13 5:34 P

Although I don't condone her previous behavior, she is still a human being who has made a mistake. We all do. If she is genuinely sorry for her behavior, then let it be! I have never tried any of her recipes because they are not conducive to my diet plans. Although some of them do look very tasty!




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6/25/13 5:09 P

I personally believe that Paula Deen is being persecuted by the media; she did admit to using the "N" word years ago, as well as using or listening to some jokes that would be considered questionable by many.. although I do NOT condone either of these actions, I do respect that she was honest when she was being cross examined for her upcoming trial... The fact that she is from the south, is a bit older than some, cooks southern food laden with fat, are 100% irrelevant to me.. the bottom line is she is a human, who has apologized for her actions and for me... that is enough... I believe if I want to be forgiven when I make crass comments or mistakes I must do the same for others...



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6/25/13 4:47 P

I've made a few of Paulas reciepes for holidays or entertaining a few friends, but never as a everyday meal. I've only heard small clips of what she was supposed to say but never the entire story, so don't know. Since I'm not a huge fan of Food Network and rarely watch, personally I don't care. Paula is a Public figure so of course there will be always someone wanting to sue for whatever reason.



MANDIETERRIER1
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6/25/13 3:39 P

I don't really like her and find her accent and attitude to be embellished.

That being said, we don't have all the information and so I will reserve my opinion until I do. Just little bits and pieces being picked out here and there.



POSEY440
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6/25/13 3:35 P

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JO88BAKO
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6/24/13 11:02 P

I don't know the details



BROWNCOFIDDLER
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6/24/13 11:01 P

Let those that are without fault cast the first stones.



VCOOTS61
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6/24/13 10:46 P

I have NEVER been a Paula fan. Her southern accent and laughter make my skin crawl. It's so over done and loud! It gives me a headache and i change the channel. I refer someone with a lot mor class like Giada (sweet and not so loud and obnoxious with a culinary degree).
And, her food is so fattening that I would never make it.
Seriously, shes made a ton of money (and so have her boys). I think it's time for her to say her apologies, retire and just enjoy that money and those grandbabies. Step aside!



ANNESYLVIA
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6/24/13 9:54 P

Well, if it is televised I like to hear the whole story from all sides before I decide either way.



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6/24/13 9:35 P

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REBCCA
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6/24/13 9:26 P

One less person promoting unhealthy eating... emoticon



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6/24/13 4:25 P

I kind of agree with what LINJT13 said. I don't know the details, don't really follow or care about her at all, but with these celebrities, saying anything that might be considered racist seems to be a bigger crime than murder, theft, and physical violence, cheating and lying.

I'm not saying it would ever be a good thing if she said racist things, but the media reaction and her sponsors seem to take this a little out of proportion as if she had committed murder, or worse. Maybe there is are more details that I just don't know.



DANYLEIN
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6/24/13 4:12 P

I do not care for her, never have. I am not at all surprised she used racist remarks. I hope she goes down! Sick of her Southern fried hypocrisy...



BREWERFAN71
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6/24/13 3:14 P

We all know she'll be fine-just like with the diabetes flap, she'll get all sorts of PR & become a "comeback kid" of sorts. Everyone love a good self-redemption story. What bothers me the most is if the allegations are true regarding her brother's disgusting behavior & treatment of employees, and she did nothing to stop it. Say what you want on your own time, but no one deserves to work in a hostile environment like that.





LINJT13
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6/24/13 3:08 P

Leave Paula alone! She said she was sorry and everyone is guilty of name calling. Stop being so sensitive!!!!!!!



JGIRL5799
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6/24/13 3:00 P

Obviously, I could care less

Who is she anyway because I never heard of her nor know of her or what she does, stand for yadda yadda yadda.... emoticon

I have totally ignored all of it.. just another social media turning of against or for to support, he said she said bull that every controversy brings..and of course, extra attention... emoticon

I hear of things like this and things are turned off ASAP only because things tend to get exaggerated and blown way out of water. My attention rather be on "other" more important events in my life and things that are going on. like trying to find out how to teach get my dog outside to go to the bathroom as its raining hard outside LOL............. emoticon

She holds no importance, and doesn't deserveany high standard importance attention

Edited by: JGIRL5799 at: 6/24/2013 (15:14)


SCHEALTHNUTT
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6/24/13 2:49 P

I just do not think she was treated fairly



NAUSIKAA
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6/24/13 5:30 A

If she said what she under oath claims to have said, that means she is guilty of racist behavior in the workplace towards her employees -- does it matter if she "meant it" if people had to listen to it? (Answer is no.) I'm glad she wasn't renewed. And of course it's completely ridiculous to say that everyone has used racial slurs in their lifetime. If anyone thinks that, they should widen their circle of acquaintances. Asking for forgiveness is too little, too late -- should have thought of that at the time, and not made the comments to start with, now it's just an attempt to save her $$$ and "empire." I hope the employees who were wronged get a huge check from her and then I hope she disappears from the public eye forever.


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LADYSTARWIND
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6/24/13 12:16 A

no loss in my book. Self-made-know-it-alls like Dean and Martha Stewart are no better than the rest of us, and the same rules of civility should apply....



PT.JEFFGIRL
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6/24/13 12:11 A

If Ms Deen actually did what it is said she did, she was wrong. If it was not done in a daragotory manner, then no. If the latter, she should be held accountable. Also if the latter, she must be one sorry person to have behaved in that manner. Sometimes success brings a person to she believe they are above the level of others. On the contrary, they should be held to a higher standard.



JANIEWWJD
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6/23/13 11:47 P

Paula Dean is one of a kind. I really don't think she meant any harm!!!



CAPECODLIGHT
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6/23/13 8:06 P

I have always enjoyed Paula Deen in small doses. A gal I used to work with would treat us with a Paula Deen dessert from time to time, and they were delish.
First, I do respect her for being honest in her deposition, when others might have tried to lie. I don't know, however, if she knew there were multiple people who could refute her if she lied; so she had no choice. I'd like to believe it was the former.
In cases where an employee is suing over a hostile work environment, a company can mitigate its liability against a claim that management "knew or should have known" by taking swift action up to and including termination or, in this case, non-renewal of contract. I am guessing that is why Food Network pulled the plug so quickly - to protect against future suits from their own employees who might have worked with Paula on her shows and heard the same kind of language.
As an employer, Ms. Deen does not have "freedom of speech", nor do we as employees - and so it should be. People should be treated with dignity, regardless of one's personal biases. If the allegations are true, I don't give Paula a pass.







SHERRIE59
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6/23/13 8:04 P

I have always liked watching Paula Deen and she has apologised for the racial comments but I really don't think it is intentional. Not renewing her contract by Food Network seems very draconian and I noticed that since this incident, they have not shown any of her shows. I do hope she learns her lesson from this drama.



REYNINGSUNSHINE
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6/23/13 7:58 P

I've never liked what Paula Deen cooks, personally. I watched a movie a few months back that had a paula deen imitation and she says, "Oh, I just wanted to show you my new low fat recipe!" as she puts like 3 sticks of butter and a bag of sugar into a deep fryer. That's pretty much how I feel about her food.

But the racism commentary... I grew up in a conservative house- which is NOT the same as racist in any means- but a lot of people growing up called me racist for what I ended up believing based off of the thought experiments my family posed to me. I don't believe that certain institutions that exist right now and a lot of people somehow claim that makes me racist, when how I see it, I think of equal-opportunity as something that is truly color blind. But that's another story.

So when I heard about how she "used the N-word" and "told racist jokes" in her past, I kind of just... shrugged it off. I see racial slurs and laughing at stereotypes as normal for all people at some point in time. Not necessarily right, but in the words of one of my favorite broadways: "Everybody does it, so relax."

I'm not saying white people have been as ridiculed and/or have had such a hard past history as those of color, but nobody is immune to "racism" and ethnic slips. Anybody who claims to have *never* participated in anything somebody might deem racist or prejudice is probably a liar as well.

And to be perfectly honest, the hatred and rudeness I've seen directed at Paula for her less than perfect past is what is more sickening. Don't. Hurt. Anybody. Intentionally. One person intentionally (or unintentionally) hurting somebody is less of a problem to me than a handful of people intentionally hurting somebody. I don't care who it is. I don't care why. It's just something you should not do.



SCHEALTHNUTT
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6/23/13 7:10 P

She obviously is not a racist, she is a warm, loving , accepting person. I feel that whatever she said at the height of segregation should not be held against her.



ZZYYGGY3
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6/23/13 5:55 P

I've never been a fan of Paula Dean something about her just struck me as fake. She's a spokesperson for her brand, and as such needs to remember that what she saids and does reflects on her brand. And The Food Netwoork is within it's rights, and responsibility to not renew their contract. That being said she'll probably bounce back. Martha Stewart did and she went to jail. I think people should realize that these days what they say and do can be put out there in the matter of minutes, and everyone should be careful.



BRATFLORIDA
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6/23/13 5:49 P

I agree with knuckles145 below. If you're judging Paula Deen and talking about her it's the same as her judging someone else and talking about them. I also agree with whomever it was that said 'not interested' I watched Paula Deen once in a while, purely for the vicariousness of watching someone cook and eat that way--god, I could never or I'd be a walking heart attack. I'd like to see the media focus more on the people that do something GOOD than the people who do something not good.




ANGHARAD3
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6/23/13 5:25 P

I was an early fan of Paula Deen's brand of easy southern cooking. However, she quickly became over the top and excessive. If you have been following the deposition, the issues were that she and her brother created a hostile work environment. Besides the use of the N-word, Ms. Dean did not see anything wrong with her brother viewing pornography at work, referring to female ex-employees using the P-word, or telling jokes at the expense of gays, Jews, and ethnic minorities because she did not consider a joke mean spirited. If Ms. Deen endorsed these views in private, that would be one thing but she did not appear to see a these practices as being problematic in the work place. The Food Network has the right to remove a spokesperson who has admitted to such crude behavior.



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6/23/13 4:27 P

They seem to have court records that say she said the following when answering a question, "All jokes seem to be about blacks, Jews and rednecks." As a Jewish person I find this comment appalling. Anyone who lives in that narrow minded world should not be on national television. Believe me us Jewish people will not buy any product now associated with her. Glad she was kicked to the curb.

Putting her comments aside, I never liked her shows. Her style of cooking is so unhealthy that I saw 15 minutes of one show to know I would never watch her show again. I do not agree that she had to tell the general public that she was diabetic. Her personal health is her business. I am sure there are other well known chefs with health problems. Look at the well known Italian chef on that network (name escapes me) who would rate morbidly obese on the BMI chart. I bet you he has high blood pressure or wears a CAP to breath at night.

To the poster who said what person that age hasn't used the N word is a ridiculous statement. I am over 50 and never used the word or had friends ever use it. I was raised in a big sophisticated city in the west . Please don't think the rest of the world is like your community.



KKLENNERT809
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6/23/13 3:42 P

I don't approve of what she did and I don't blame the network's decision to not renew her contract.



UMBILICAL
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6/23/13 3:34 P

Not interested.



KNUCKLES145
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6/23/13 3:34 P

"racism" can take many different forms and if we are all honest with ourselves we have all judge people by their color, dress, sex, age at one time or another.

in some ways the people who are judging her without knowing all the facts are no better then she is.



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6/23/13 3:27 P

She comes from a generation of southerners where casual racism was practically ingrained. I know a *lot* of them. My grandmother was one of those, and it is so startling and unsettling that it catches you off guard. What Paula Deen said was simply an admission, when asked under oath, that she had said those words in the past. I have to say that I almost admire her for not lying under oath... that's what you're supposed to do. Tell t he truth.

Is she a racist? I don't know. I don't know her. It wouldn't surprise me. Do I care? Not really. Racism is never acceptable, and I most assuredly wouldn't patronize her restaurant (and honestly, there are better places to eat in Savannah, so I wouldn't bother anyway.) I don't buy her stuff, and I don't care what she does with her life.

We live in a free country. That means she can say and believe as she likes. That doesn't mean she's free from controversy. So she's lost her show. Does anyone here really think that's going to do anything to do more than inconvenience her for a bit? The woman's richer than God. She has restaurants, books, a media empire. She'll be fine.

In the end, she's just a relic of a dying attitude that is still all too prevalent here in Georgia and other southern states. And I really wish people would stop talking about her.



SHERYLDS
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6/23/13 3:00 P

I never cared for her show or her unhealthy style of cooking, and I'm glad that the Food Network chose not to renew her contract. I don't consider racist attitudes Freedom of Speech and I would not support that kind of attitude towards others...but I feel sorry for her employees who will suffer the consequences of her ignorance, as her company is penalized by the bad press. She was given an opportunity to give her side on CBS...first she failed to show, then she sent a video.





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6/23/13 2:51 P

Really? That woman is so past famous and if she thinks people will believe she has never spoken using those derogatory terms before, she really needs to check herself.


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6/23/13 2:23 P

I've always found her creepy as all getout. She is cloying and annoying, plus I don't like the kind of food that she promotes. Her accent drives me nuts. Not to mention her hypocracy about her diabetes...

This current controversy is not just about the fact that she uses the n-word (with some frequency, apparently) but that she has done things like plan a plantation-style wedding for her brother where all of the waiters (servants) were black...you know, so it would "look right" and be authentic to slave times.

She is disgusting. It is about time they took her off the air.



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6/23/13 2:14 P

Now I need to look up what she said...



LUV2SURFCHIC
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6/23/13 2:09 P

They are making a case of her. She isn't the only person to say things like she said.



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6/23/13 2:02 P

Since this is a Free Country, with Freedom of Speech, she can say whatever in the World she wants to. It is not my business if she is politically correct or not. I will not encroach on her Freedom of Speech, although I do not agree with her sentiment at all. But then I don't agree with a lot of things I hear, but can not make people say only the things I would like to hear them say.
I also think the cooking channel has the Freedom of Choice to show her there or not. No big deal to me. If they will not show her anymore and I really wanted to see a show, there are other means to see them.



EMPRESSAMQ
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6/23/13 12:27 P

I actually have near zero interest in Ms. Deen's latest problem.

It doesn't seem a controversy to me. If her contract was not renewed by her network (yea, she was not fired) then that is their business and her business and that is life.

Sometimes we lose contracts. Sometimes it is our fault, sometimes just the luck of the draw and not our fault at all.

Life goes on.

I don't know if Ms. Deen is a racist. She has been the subject of "controversy" before for not revealing her diagnosis of diabetes at first. Her call. I didn't personally see a problem with that. She then got dietary religion and turned all that around.

Did she say a word or say things without saying a specific word? If she did, then I can see a contract not being renewed.

I do have to disagree with a previous poster. I don't think anyone her age who tells you they have never used that word is lying. I am around her age (I think, not sure how old she is) and I have NEVER used that word, not once, not ever. I was raised from the cradle to not disrespect people in that way and I did know better even way back then.

But I do agree good people have sometimes in the past used words that they did not know better than to use.

But this is 2013, not back then, and if any allegations re Ms. Deen are true, I'd think Food Network made a wise decision not to renew her contract. Who needs that?



ANARIE
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6/23/13 12:12 P

When the latest flap started, I thought, "Oh, please. Anyone her age who tells you they've never used that word is lying. If it's true that the last time she said it was 20-some years ago, then give her credit for not committing perjury and move on." If someone asked me in court whether I had ever used that word, I would have to say that I'm sure I probably did at some point as a child, before I knew what it meant. I certainly know I heard it, and I know a lot of very kind, good people who are NOT racist but who used it as recently as 30 or 40 years ago because they just didn't know any better back then.

But with Paula Deen, apparently it's not just the word. She has said things (recently) without using the word that reflect the same attitude that people use the word for. Worse, apparently there are actions-- allegations that people of different races had to use different doors, etc.

And you know what? Food Network didn't *fire* her. They chose not to renew her contract. That's good, conservative values; you're not entitled to a job if the company doesn't want you anymore. That's what "right to work" actually means-- employment at will. I live in Texas, so any job I have is like that; they don't have to have a reason to terminate you (and unlike PD's case, generally they don't even have to wait for a contract expiration.) Any one of us in a "right-to-work" state can get fired just because something about us makes a boss uncomfortable, or they like someone else better and want to give our job to that person. My brother once got fired (in North Carolina) because his boss wanted to hire her boyfriend. She didn't even lie about it. Paula Deen has done a number of things that made her bosses unhappy or uncomfortable, over several years. Why should she expect to keep her job?

But probably the most relevant thing is that she's "not a good fit" for the company. I don't watch FN because I've never lived in a place where you could get it, but I've seen it once or twice and I used to get the magazine. What I've seen always seemed kind of hip/hipster, nouveau or fusion, and Paula Deen's "see how much butter you can put in without it completely oozing off the plate" style just didn't mesh. She contributed very little to the magazine, and what she did put in was never innovative-- it was stuff that, if you cook, you already have a better recipe for. Her cookbooks never tempted me because they're just my grandma's recipe box, with more butter and Crisco shortening instead of "Spry". (That's the grandmother who died of Alzheimer's, which my mother's doctor calls "type 3 diabetes.") It makes perfect sense for her to go to Fox; they like the 1950s style stuff that she does.

And I don't mean just the food.



LAKEZURICHDANA
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6/23/13 11:30 A

I think she has learned her lesson and after the big hoopla she will be very careful what she says. Let her go on with her show - the lady is really funny.



PATTIJOHNSON
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6/23/13 11:29 A

Being politically correct is way out of hand. Most, if not all, of us have said or done something in our past that we are probably not too proud of. From the time I was a little girl until now, lots of things have changed socially. Ignorance (not stupidity) sometimes causes wrong impressions as well as what we are taught growing up (how to act, what to think). If you know anything about the southern US, you know that racial issues are historical. I can see how anyone raised in the south and being as old as Paula Deen is, that she has encountered or maybe even grew up with a family that had their own ideals regarding other races.

The BUT here, is that people can and do change. Knowledge is the key. I think Paula is sincere in her apology. In watching her shows, I haven't noticed that she treats any of her guests different because of their skin color. She seems to have a big heart, and seems genuine in the way she communicates with any of her guests.

I find it too bad that Paula has to be persecuted for something she said long in the past. I guess that the big cheeses at the Food Network are and have always pure beings who have never had an "off" thought or said an "off" thing in their pasts. I will miss her presence on their network. I hope she finds another TV home, as I enjoy her energetic personality and cooking/recipes that are actually doable for the average home cook.

So what if she is already wealthy. Wanting her to fall like a ton of bricks (as I am seeing in lots of comments I've been reading) probably stems from jealousy, and in itself, isn't such a nice thought either. Remember....People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.



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6/23/13 10:50 A

I think we are only getting one side of the story. If it did happen then the court should handle it, i don't think the she, herself did anything wrong. I am sorry that her show was cancelled. I love her show, I only made a few recipes. She is just so real and funny. She reminds me of my family.



AMANDA660
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6/23/13 10:47 A

I'm a mild fan of Paula. We've all pretty much said or done something we regret but we all have to pay the price for whatever that was.



EWL978
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6/23/13 10:47 A

Good luck to her!! I read that she already has a new job, with Fox News. Guess she's going to be cooking of them....that sure sounds like a romantic job!!



KNUCKLES145
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6/23/13 10:35 A

ok, I'm out of the loop. what's going on now? (heading to google to find out)

I never really watched her that much because she felt somewhat "fake" to me.



JODROX
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6/23/13 10:31 A

What do you think of the latest Paula Deen controversy?

I used to love her show, mainly because she is so over-the-top. I have one of her cookbooks and have made ... oh, maybe two or three recipes from it. Not something you'd eat every day, but a once-in-awhile treat. I became a bigger fan of hers when I heard that she overcame debilitating anxiety issues to start up catering business years ago. I don't watch her show like I used to partly because I know I'm not going to cook her food and partly because she can be a bit much.

Anyhoo, now her show has been canceled and I guess there's a big outcry from her fan base.

What do you think??



 
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