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LOVEXAVIE SparkPoints: (42,809)
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12/8/13 2:25 P

Wow. Honorary bow, LADYCJM!

Yes, life seems busier than ever before. I am required to multitask like never before and it sometimes drives me crazy!! Can I try being Amish for a day? Come to think of it, fat amongst the Amish is rather rare...!

Is it easier to stop and grab a fast food item or even grab a couple protein bars to pass as a meal? Yup. But I know that I will be the beneficiary if I take responsibility and MAKE the time to buy, store & prep veggies that I can then just grab-&-go with. Half the time, I'm eating them down the 405 fwy between appts or on the way home.

And I'm grateful for it...that I had the $ to buy them, made the time to do it, and got in my 7-9 servings a day because I c-h-o-s-e to. Regardless of societies frenzied pace; regardless of the temptations to take the easy way out and not do it.

Take THAT, frenzied society!

Re: Roseanne - I did think she was big then (she was). But you are spot-on in that as a nation, we are becoming larger and unhealthier.

EMPRESSAMQ Posts: 5,077
12/7/13 4:30 P

"If we decline to be responsible then we are saying that we need someone else to be responsible for us. Please Mr. Government, limit the size of sodas I can purchase, Prevent me from buying more than my allotted amount of whole milk, ice cream and candy by giving me a ration card. Track my fast food purchases and once I've maxed my calories for the month don't let me buy anymore." ~ LadyCJM



MANDIETERRIER1 Posts: 17,458
12/7/13 4:01 P

I agree with you LadyCJM.

BLUENOSE63 SparkPoints: (108,021)
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12/7/13 7:00 A

What I noticed while living in the US for seven years was the simple fact that it was cheaper to eat food that was intrinsically bad for one's health. Cheap, super sized, all you ca eat buffets etc.

LADYCJM SparkPoints: (57,456)
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12/6/13 8:46 P

I politely disagree. Each individual has to take responsibility for their actions. Our choices make us fat. No one forces us to eat crappy food, it may be easier, but we are not forced to eat it.

I raised kids while working full time and having a husband who was gone for 9 months at a time in war zones, 9 separate times to be exact. So I have lived the life.

And even though I was fat I did not rely on fast food. I didn't serve enough fruits and veggies. I fried foods and pretended that it was okay to eat an entire of package of Oreos in a day. I made a lot of bad choices.

If we decline to be responsible then we are saying that we need someone else to be responsible for us. Please Mr. Government, limit the size of sodas I can purchase, Prevent me from buying more than my allotted amount of whole milk, ice cream and candy by giving me a ration card. Track my fast food purchases and once I've maxed my calories for the month don't let me buy anymore.

Yeah, THEY will do a great job taking care of us.

We have to make healthier choices. We have to get off the couch, turn off the computer and the TV. We need to assess if all of the after school/work running around is necessary or even worth it. Do we need the bigger housed or the 2 cars or the 1000 inch TV that require us to have 2 incomes? Do our kids really need 3 activities a week?

Can we cook ahead on the weekend and prep meals for the week? Can we learn to do without if we forget something at the store this week?

For example, I roast a large chicken on Sunday. We have it for dinner. And I use the leftovers for my lunches for the rest of the week. My daughter makes mini pizzas and calzones for her work lunches. My husband makes sandwiches. Dinners are made of things that we cook in big batches and freeze. Spaghetti sauce, chili, stew. casseroles. We shop once a week and buy what is on sale. If we run out, we do without. It's not that hard if you plan ahead ....and the big secret? We don't watch a lot of TV. We don't FaceBook. I come on here for Sparkpeople...and I have to be careful cuz I can get a bit obsessive.

We as individuals have make healthy changes and we have to support healthy change in others. Not by demeaning them or embarrassing them but by providing education and resources.

SIMPLYME80 Posts: 406
12/6/13 7:26 P

Times have changed and so has food. Mostly Gone is the day of the stay at home mom preparing homecooked meals on a daily basis and dessert was the daily treat..take out was limited as a rare treat. Families often took walks together in the evening. Children ran off to visit friends, hike, bike, play in the snow, or whatever they enjoyed as a activity, Fast forward Todays World. Mom at work,comes home, shuffles kids to and from daycare or school, then to some type of practice. Off to a gym, a run to the store or whereever. Any houskeeping, grocery shopping etc done over weekend. Kids texting each other rather than walking to a friends house to visit. Indoor activities and video games the norm. Rarely does a child go outside to play or walk to visit a friend. Mom is Drained! Way to tired to cook anything from scratch! So Hello take out or pizza. Hello Precooked fried frozen chicken or other convienence foods! So, its Not the food, Not the fault of the overweight person, but the Fault of Society.

Edited by: SIMPLYME80 at: 12/6/2013 (20:45)
JOYCECAIN SparkPoints: (137,463)
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12/6/13 5:17 P

I see everyone the same. But I do believe all of us in America should take stock in the food we eat.

LADYCJM SparkPoints: (57,456)
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12/6/13 5:06 P

My comment was not meant to imply that we should not accept that fat people are just as wonderful and horrible as all people are. As someone who has always been fat and will always be fat "between the ears" I believe that we should treat everyone with respect

I never really liked the Roseanne show, I always thought it was rather crude. Not because of anyone's weight, just that it's a type of humor I don't care for. But I do respect what Roseanne has accomplished as a comedian.

But that does not mean we should not address the fact that too many people are killing themselves with food. As a nurse for 30+ years I can tell you that, at a minimum, 70% of patients admitted to the hospital are there because of lifestyle choices. They choose to smoke, to drink too much, to eat too much, to eat unhealthy diets and to not exercise.
Some of it is out of ignorance, some out of apathy and some out of feeling defeated before starting.

Since we are moving towards national healthcare and healthcare eats up a huge amount of our national budget we need to have a national discussion on how to make out country healthy, and that includes decreasing the number of fat people.

(Don't get me started on smoking !!!!!)

12/6/13 4:35 P

ICANDOTHIS90 - Please don't get me wrong. I believe that every human being has feelings and needs to be treated with respect no matter what size or shape they are. People need encouragement not disdain.

"Gladly some accept the way they are gracefully."

That statement troubles me. It's not that I think a person shouldn't be proud of who they are, because they should. It's that that statement sounds like defeatism to me. If I were diagnosed with cancer I wouldn't just say, "Oh well I had 36 good years and wait to die gracefully." I'd fight like h*ll and wouldn't stop until I got better.

Thin doesn't equal healthy but obesity isn't healthy either and we need to stop this growing trend.

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12/6/13 4:34 P

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I agree, something needs to be done to get Americans back on track!!!!!

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12/6/13 4:29 P

I was recently watching the old footage of the day JFK was assassinated and noticed when looking at the shots of the crowds around Dealy Plaza and the hospital that there were very, very few overweight people in those crowds. Now when you see shots like that there seems to be very few thin/normal weight people in the crowds. What have we done to ourselves?

12/6/13 3:05 P

Sadly, I agree.

ETHELMERZ Posts: 19,687
12/6/13 3:00 P

Look at all the choices that are out there to be eaten, that is something I've noticed since I was a kid, way too many choices of every kind of food, drink, heck, look at all the produce choices!! So many choices, so little time...........I've never driven thru any kind of eating place, never, even at age 67, but when we moved to a city, other people were surprised when I told them we park our car, and go into a Starbucks to get a cup of coffee, and sit there and drink it. People said they though we were nuts, to actually get out of the car to order anything. These people drive through at the bank, cleaners, photos, picking up meds, we can't get over it. So many reasons for not walking to and froh. No one also never mentions that one person staying home and actually cooking meals is not the usual thing anymore, either, our "rush rush rush " society and instant info makes eating carefully and slowly boring, shovel whatever is edible, and move on to the next entertainment.

SIMPLYME80 Posts: 406
12/6/13 2:38 P

I always enjoyed watching Roseanne and sometimes still enjoy repeats. Her show was so Real! Real life situations with growing children, Overweight to show that people come in all sizes, and not to be made fun, give a guilt trip, of or taken advantage of because of size. No matter what someones size is they are Still a person with feelings! Gladly some accept the way they are gracefully.

LADYCJM SparkPoints: (57,456)
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12/6/13 2:32 P

I agree with all of the above reasons as well as an increasing acceptance of being fat.

If your Dr. talks to you about your weight, he is being mean.

If your gym teacher talks to you about eating a healthier diet and working out he's being discriminatory.

Health classes are out. super sizing is in.

SHERYLDS Posts: 17,362
12/6/13 1:13 P

It's true that we are much less active than we were 40 years ago, but the portion sizes and the sugar in everything is where the calories add up. I used to look at the individual cereal size boxes as if they were a I know that most cereals consider Less than a cup as a serving size. And sugars (especially high fructose corn syrup) are in everything.
I am conscious of not super sizing my portions outside...but I'm more concerned with the oversized portions at home. Even Now..I need to go back to weighing and measuring.

But when it comes to weight norms, I think it depends on where you are and the types of food common to that area. I think areas that encourage a lot of frying and a lot of starches, tend to have the higher weight averages.

Someone mentioned Mexican obesity...a lot of starches (rice, beans, maize, etc) and a lot of frying.

Edited by: SHERYLDS at: 12/6/2013 (13:16)
EMPRESSAMQ Posts: 5,077
12/6/13 12:24 P

WE can't fix it, everyone has to decide for themselves what is their correct or desired weight and work to achieve it as best they can.

In my opinion, of course.

My comments don't apply to childhood obesity. That is a problem that must continue to be addressed by society as a whole.

Re Ms. Barr, I don't think I ever saw the TV program mentioned in the OP, can't comment. I remember people of all sizes during the years I was growing up. Can't speak to whether it is trending upwards as I have no hard data on that.

Edited by: EMPRESSAMQ at: 12/6/2013 (12:25)
MANDIETERRIER1 Posts: 17,458
12/6/13 11:06 A

I also watched some episodes of Roseanne. When I was younger I didn't think anything of their weight. Now that I am older, I am like "Wow"

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12/6/13 10:41 A

funny, I remember thinking when I was a kid that Cass Elliot was HUGE. Looking back at footage of The Mamas & The Papas now, she doesn't look that big.

of course overweight kids were not very common when I was in school. I recall 2 of my middle school friends being overweight, and only 1 of my friends in high school was.
when my brothers were in high school, I remember going to a pool party they had and sis and I noticing that just about all of their friends were overweight.

eating out was really rare when I was in high school. By the time my brothers were in high school, it was pretty common. Now I think eating out has become the norm.

Edited by: OBIESMOM2 at: 12/6/2013 (10:42)
LYNNIEV Posts: 394
12/6/13 10:24 A

We can't. Change it, that is. We can only change ourselves.

I watch a show called Supersize vs Superskinny and the doctor travels to the states to talk to other doctors and they all say the obesity crisis is getting worse and worse every year. He even spoke with a funeral home director about how even coffin sizes have changed; they make some of them in enormous sizes to accommodate the deceased obese. Some of the dead are as young as their 30's and 40's. They're literally eating themselves into the grave.

As for what happened, there are so many theories. I personally believe that part of the reason is technology and convenience. We don't have to get up to change the channel on the TV anymore, we don't have to open our garage doors ourselves, hell we don't even have to walk outside to start our cars. Just push a button and it's done. Kids aren't outside playing anymore, they're sitting on their butts in their rooms playing on the Xbox. Even I sit in front of a computer all day. Didn't used to. I used to have jobs where I actually (*gasp*) had to get off my ass and MOVE. Not anymore. Everything's right there at the tips of my fingers.

Another thing? Supersized portions. Yeah, it's up to us as individuals what to put into our bodies. McDonald's isn't to blame. You can make just as many poor food choices at home or in the grocery store. But let's be frank.... the sizes are massive and completely unnecessary. And when they're put out there in peoples' faces, they feel the need to eat them. It's too easy to be at the speaker at the drive-thru and say "Oh what the heck, give me the double with extra bacon, I'll work it off later."

And that 'later' never comes.

Those are my personal opinions about why we're getting fatter. However, America isn't the fattest country anymore; Mexico is. But that doesn't necessarily mean the USA is getting slimmer; it probably just means that Mexico has become so fat that they've surpassed even us.

I just concentrate on myself and my family. I can't control the world, nor would I really want to at this point. It's OUT of control.

Edited by: LYNNIEV at: 12/6/2013 (10:28)
12/6/13 8:25 A

I recently rewatched the first season of Roseanne on YouTube with my kids. I haven't seen an episode since I was a teen and all I could think was, they're not that big. When I was a teen and Roseanne was a hit sitcom on tv I remember the big hoopla over how heavy Roseanne and Dan were. At the time they were the heaviest people I'd ever seen. I see people who make Roseanne look petite everyday.

What has happened to us? Why have we let it get this bad? And what can we do to fix it?

Edited by: JUSTEATREALFOOD at: 12/6/2013 (12:17)
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