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3/22/13 2:29 P

For some individuals it might not be calories in vs calories out, but that does work for 98% of the population.

I would have to politely suggest that if you're such an expert on this yourself - why are you still overweight?

You reject the system because "I know my body better", but you're still fat. So how well DO you know it, really?

If you knew what to do so well, you'd have succeeded. Maybe try this.

Anyway, 2,600 is a huge intake. While very large individuals need more calories, they are also more able to sustain bigger calorie deficits. Coach Dean, for example, ate well below the Spark site's recommendations for him, and lost his weight that way.

What amount of calories have you been eating for the past 4 weeks? What weight have you lost?

If you're really in doubt and don't know where to go try starting on something like 2,000-2,500 calories. This is high enough above the male minimum of 1500 that you probably won't be dangerously starving your body of nutrients, but beneath the recommendations you feel won't lead to weight loss for you. See how you go for 6-8 weeks at that, and adjust as necessary.

Deb, in New Zealand
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3/22/13 10:53 A

Thanks for the feedback.

I track daily calories using a BodyMedia FIT. I have had it for over two years and have checked its output several times using standard MET calcs and tables, and verified it is accurate.

I track my food by basically eating the same things day in and day out, and I do measure every now and then to make sure I am not getting portion size creep. I do not drink sugary drinks, other than wine. I do not eat a lot of fatty foods. I do eat lean meats, vegetables, whole grain breads, and my no sugar added fudgsicle every night. I do have a thing for cashews though. Go through at least 2 ozs (43 halves/picees per oz) a day. Salad every night with salsa and 100cal guac for dressing; totals 323 calories.

I have worked with doctor's for years on my weight problem and most of them have told me flat out that it is not just calories in and out, and that the medical community really does not understand what to do about it. Their frustration is obvious because for some people it actually is calories in and out, but not for all. I am living proof of it.

BTW: My endocrinologist has verified that my thyroid level is fine, if a little on the low side. No obvious metabolic issues.

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3/22/13 10:30 A

How are you reaching your estimate for calories burned? That is a LOT of calories, and yes, you'll need a lot of calories to support your body. Burning 2815 in a week takes quite a bit of work, even at your weight.

If you are gaining weight in spite of this, then there's likely something going on

1) You're overestimating calories burned
2) You're underestimating calories eaten
3) You have a medical condition affecting your metabolism

So my question for you is this: How have you tracked your calories in the past when you gained weight? Are you weighing and measuring, or eyeballing it?

How are you determining your calorie burn?

At this point, if what you have done before isn't working, it's time to try something different. If you've been doing a certain exercise program for two years without change, then I assure you, you aren't burning as many calories as you think... your body adapts to exercise over time, and as you age, your metabolism DOES drop. You're not going to burn as much as someone your equal weight who is 20 years younger, or hasn't done the program as you have.

Writer, mother, wife, and breadwinner. I love to run, but running doesn't love me, so I'm switching to my low-impact bike.

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3/22/13 10:20 A

I know that is how it works for me because I have been fighting this battle for a long time. I am just shy of 62 and have been overweight since childhood. Hell, at 5 the doctor was putting me on diets. I am anal about tracking my food intake and calorie burns; exercising to Tony Horton's P90 for over two years now.

I am also a tech geek with an engineering background and a numbers junky. I experiment all the time with what works and what doesn't. If I up my intake to anything over about 2700 I will be over 280 in a week. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.

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3/22/13 9:59 A

Hi LI4ME2,

What makes you believe you will pack on the pounds? At 272 your body needs more calories than a person weighing 200 pounds and this is just to support normal biological functions (growing new cells, fighting illness, regulating body temp, blood pressure, etc), not to mention activities of active daily living (shopping, cleaning, walking the dog, etc) in addition to calories you need for recovery from your exercise. Severely restricting calories can lead to a greater loss of lean body mass.

Coach Nancy

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3/22/13 9:55 A

I took the calorie numbers for exercise from the MyFitness page for the last 7 days and got 2815. Putting that into the Cardio Setup "If you know how many calories you burn each week, enter it here:" field gets me to a goal of 2600 - 2950. If I start eating that much I will pack on the pounds, and at 272 now I cannot afford that.


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3/22/13 9:45 A

Thanks! That makes a lot more sense to me.

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3/21/13 5:56 P

Hi LI4ME2,

The previous poster is only track the activities that count as cardio/strength training in your fitness tracker. SparkPeople's program factors in a active daily living multiplier for any activity outside 'formal' exercise, so if you count those from your BodyMedia device you are double dipping which will skew your calorie range.

Coach Nancy

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3/21/13 5:25 P

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You should put in the average number of calories you burn through exercise in a week, not including your BMR.

Hope that helps!

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3/21/13 4:11 P

I want to make sure I put the correct number into the Fitness settings for calorie burn per week. I tried putting in my average daily burn (which is 3367) times 7 days, but it then comes up with an absurd number in My Nutrition tracking for calories a day needed. Then I put in 7 times the difference between my average calories burned (3367 per my BodyMedia device) and my average calories consumed (2427 per my food tracking on SparkPeople, which comes out to 6580. This made for a more reasonable calories needed range in My Nutrition, so I assume this is actually correct. However, the calories needed numbers still strike me as too high. If I consume more than 2500 a day I immediately start gaining weight, and that is absolutely not what I want to do.

Am I on the right track with this daily burn figuring?

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