Poster's sister: ""Milk is good but you shouldn't drink it. Think about it. It's produced by a mother cow and is formulated to make that calf grow into a full adult in a matter of months. No other animals in the world drink milk into adulthood, much less the milk of another animal. Almost everyone in the world who is not of European descent is lactose intolerant."
This is a pet peeve of mine ... insane variations on the naturalism fallacy. By the argument above, no other animal cooks its food, therefore we shouldn't. Almost no other animals use tools (see: some apes, some birds), therefore we shouldn't. Other animals don't see dentists wear clothes or or or ... therefore we shouldn't. (see also: UNIDENT's post)
200POUNDQUEST has it right: "Nothing from nature that we eat was formulated with us eating it in mind". It's a fact; not an argument.
Because you live in a post-industrial nation of plenty you more or less have the choice to eat what you want, within reason, your means, etc. "Milk bad for you???" isn't a sensible question (in the sense that Wolfgang Pauli might formulate it); it needs more definition. And the poster's sister's comment doesn't even address that, as it instead skirts around this idea that "ooh, ick, *not natural* ... ooh, ick!" Do you need to drink milk? No. Is it healthful? It contains a lot of nutrients: vitamins and minerals, protein, fat, some sugars, and it's pretty well-balanced. Can too much milk be problematic? Yeah, too much saturated fat if you're drinking cup after cup of 3.5% every day; and not many would choose to drink cup after cup of skim for fun/flavor. This of course doesn't address issues of a safe food supply, treatment of livestock, other ethical concerns, individual concerns about lactose (in)tolerance or allergies, etc., but those are sort of beside the point here.
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23,165 2/18/13 4:05 A
Actually, talking about cats drinking milk reminds me of when I was a child. I grew up on a dairy farm. I can remember the dogs sometimes standing under some cows when they were ready to be milked, and were dripping. The dogs helped themselves, licking it up - no interference from people :-)
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2/18/13 3:41 A
I sooo agree with the pp. Cats are more than happy to drink milk; they just can't milk a cow by themselves. My dogs LOVE cheese, probably more than anything else. I've never given them milk but I bet they would drink it.
Dairy products are not bad for you, unless you have an allergy or intolerance. I reckon your sister may have read something on the internet.... and we all know they can't put something on the internet if it's not true ; )
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2/18/13 3:01 A
Nothing from nature that we eat was formulated with us eating it in mind :) I suspect a lot of animals besides us would consume the milk of other animals if they could figure out how to get it.
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2/18/13 12:51 A
I love my skim milk and would hate to give it up. Every once in a while, I take a week and take in less than 15 grams of sugar a day. That week I substitue almond milk for my skim milk but I really miss my milk and yogurt when I do that.
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no one can make that choice but you........I drink non fat milk. The calcium is good for my bones and bone health. it's also good for my teeth. Do what is best for you.
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23,165 2/17/13 11:38 P
If you are allergic to milk then, YES - it is bad for you. If you are dairy food intolerant then too much wouldn't be doing you any favours (abdominal pain, gas, bloating - even diarrhea.) If none of those applies to you, then milk can be good - good source of calcium - source of protein - and there are many other nutrients that it contains, including Tryptophan which benefits the body and mind.
I would just ensure you aren't having full-fat milk (higher saturated fat) and enjoy it, and disregard your sister's opinion - she is entitled to make those choices for herself, but not for you. You are entitled to make and enjoy YOUR choices!
There is a scarelore website set up with essentially that claim and some other stuff about milk that is not necessarily scientifically sound.
It is true that it's entirely un-natural for any mammal to continue to drink milk past infancy. Nothing else does.
It's also entirely un-natural to wear clothing, work out in a gym, cook food, and a host of other things human beings now do every day that no other animal does.
Milk is an excellent source of calcium and is part of a healthy and balanced diet. If you choose to go milk-free, you do need to be very careful about your calcium intake from other sources. Milk isn't essential, but it's a quick and easy way for us to get calcium, with no bad side-effects (except for the lactose intolerant).
Besides ... milk products are yummy. :)
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349 2/17/13 10:35 P
So I was all proud of myself for switching to skim milk. Then my sister told me that if I really want to be healthy I should stop drinking milk altogether. We were texting back and forth and here is what she told me:
"Milk is good but you shouldn't drink it. Think about it. It's produced by a mother cow and is formulated to make that calf grow into a full adult in a matter of months. No other animals in the world drink milk into adulthood, much less the milk of another animal. Almost everyone in the world who is not of European descent is lactose intolerant."
WOW. This was kind of an eye opener for me, but I don't really know what to think about it. Is milk really bad? I hate the thought of giving up milk and yogurt products because that is how I get a whole lot of my protein, not to mention calcium. My sister says she takes calcium supplements, and she doesn't even eat yogurt. Sometimes she will allow herself some cheese but admits she shouldn't even do that.
Is milk really bad? What she says makes sense, but I've been drinking milk all my life and never really thought about it.....
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