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MANDIETERRIER1
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2/4/13 11:18 A

I get many of my calories from carbs. I find that sustainable. And I do lose weight.

It is calamari and not carbs that prevent my weight loss



GLORYINHIM29X11
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2/4/13 11:06 A

Carbs are great, I'm not a fan of eliminating any food groups. I think they all deserve a place in ones diet. Now I'm not talking about chips, candy, etc when I say carbs are great. I'm talking veggies, fruits, and whole grains. I can't live without them. I've never been a big red meat eater and I can't imagine going on a low carb diet where meat consumption usually is high. I'm more of a fish/seafood/poultry person.



KRISTEN_SAYS
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2/4/13 10:47 A

I lost 50 pounds slowly - it took me almost 2.5 years. On average, throughout my weight loss and still to this day, 50% of my calories comes from carbs. I've maintained my weight since reaching my goal last May, and I have actually gone down a pant size. I've never tried a low carb diet - to me, that's what it is - a diet. Temporary. Not a lifestyle. (Also, I'm a vegetarian so cutting out carbs would leave me with hardly anything to eat.) A lot of people swear by cutting out carbs, but I don't think it's necessary. It's about the types of carbs you eat. If you have a big, fat cinnamon raisin bagel for breakfast loaded with sugar and simple carbs, it's not going to do much to fill you up. Oatmeal, on the other hand, will probably hold you over until lunchtime.



LOVE4KITTIES
Posts: 1,795
2/4/13 10:36 A

The claims that wheat is "supper inflammatory" and "super addicive" are based upon pseudoscience. There is no real science behind these claims.

Regarding insulin...it's not some sort of evil hormone that makes you fat. It's an extremely important peptide hormone that is produced normally in the pancreas and which functions to help regulate blood glucose by bringing the extra glucose in your bloodstream into your body's cells (thus providing them with energy). A lack of insulin or an inability of insulin to bring this extra blood glucose into your body's cells is a serious medical condition--diabetes. Diabetes is sometimes referred to as "starvation in the midst of plenty" because, in this condition, your body either does not have the insulin it needs or it cannot use the insulin that it has to bring glucose into your body's cells. When your body's cells don't have access to needed glucose, they do not function correctly. You also get sick from having a bunch of extra glucose in your bloodstream (it builds up in your bloodstream because your body is not functioning correctly and this extra blood glucose is basically toxic to your body). So, insulin is good. If your body is not making it or your body can't use it correctly, you have diabetes.

In the normally functioning human body, blood glucose is tightly regulated within a relatively narrow range. Only individuals who have a medical problem associated with blood glucose regulation need to worry about their blood glucose and their insulin (and these individuals should see a doctor and not try to handle this by themselves). Normal individuals do not need to eat a low carb diet to avoid having glucose in their blood (and, in any case, it just really, really doesn't work that way because everyone, including diabetics, needs and has glucose in their bloodstream...if you don't have a normal amount, this is a medical problem). Normal individuals do not need to eat low carb to control their blood glucose (their bodies do that for them and they do not suffer any ill effects from their blood glucose rising and falling within its normal range). They also do not need to eat a low carb diet to avoid having insulin in their blood (not only does it not work that way, ask any diabetic if they would like to be able to produce their own insulin or be able to use the insulin that they do have).

Edited by: LOVE4KITTIES at: 2/4/2013 (11:12)


NIRERIN
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2/4/13 8:11 A

part of how carbs are processed involves more water than does processing fat or protein. which basically means that someone eating 200 g of carbs a day is going to hang on to a little more water weight than someone eating 50g carbs a day. and it's why when you cut out all your carbs you lose so much water weight right off the bat. and it's one of the reasons why when you start eating carbs again some of that weight comes right back on.
i do think you have to look at long term results though. unless your goal is just losing weight, in which case low carb seems to work for you. but if your goal is to lose and and keep it off, then something seems to be broken in that low carb plan if you keep having to turn back to it to lose weight. what about it can't you sustain? what about it doesn't teach you how to maintain your weight? imo the goal isn't to lose weight the fastest, it's to lose it in a manner that you only have to lose it once. so that's learning what foods you like, how they fit into your diet and what you need to do to include them there. and changes that you can't see yourself doing forever are just increasing the time it takes you to get to the lost and maintaining point. because losing 50lbs in 5 weeks doesn't mean much if you're going to have to lose those 50lbs again five weeks after that.
since most people can't change all their habits at once on a dime, that means making little changes to what they are already doing [increasing veggies and fruits, decreasing fats, a little more exercise, etc] so that they are actually changing those habits as they go instead of seeing how long they can walk around backwards, hop over cracks and only make left hand turns when driving. anything you regularly do is a habit, and unless you're one of that tiny minority it can take you six weeks to change just one of those things. which is why when you change all of them you fall off the wagon.; you're trying to do 100 difficult things at once.
i think that you have to look at the long term, again if you goal is to lose and keep off. so it's not where you are in five weeks, it's where you are in 6 months, 1 year, 18 months, 2 years, 3 years, four years. so if you started a fad diet four years ago and have been on ten of them since, i think that counts as a mark against that one. because you didn't make the sort of changes that you could keep doing.



35BYMAY
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2/4/13 7:34 A

SUNSHINE6442- Insulin's job is not to convert glucose into fat, nor does that occur in the bloodstream. Insulin is required for all cells of the body to function, by being a key for glucose to enter.

It is really important to NOT put info onto public boards if you are not certain of what it is you are saying (ie: extensive knowledge of physiology and pathology)



Edited by: 35BYMAY at: 2/4/2013 (07:46)


35BYMAY
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2/4/13 7:32 A

I know for sure carbs slow weight loss... but also know that slow weight loss is the only sustainable weight loss, so I never go low-carb

Edited by: 35BYMAY at: 2/4/2013 (07:33)


CMCOLE
Posts: 2,667
2/4/13 7:17 A

Even vegetables contain carbs.


I think what you're asking, more importantly, is about "simple" carbs - sugars, white flour, processed items. Those are rather unhealthy at the best of times. Avoiding carbs is not exactly an option - just choose wisely.

Lots of good vegetables, berries, nuts - all those contain carbs; it's just that the body can find more nutrients to use as a benefit in items such as them.



SUNSHINE6442
Posts: 1,749
2/4/13 7:14 A

Yes, Sugar, Wheat Bread, Wheat pasta, sodium, and some type of carbs stall weight loss....
Also Sugar free foods...can hinder weight loss.

The insulin hormone is responsible for fat storage in the body so eating low carb, low glycemic foods is better to lose weight ...when insulin is still present in the bloodstream, it continues its process of converting glucose into fat///so one needs to reduce the intake of starch and sugar from which the glucose is made, and to fill the void with another fuel...when you resort to a low-fat diet which is based on carbohydrates, your body is forced into the fat building mode and not the fat burning mode.

Wheat..conatins a Super Gluten that is super-inflammatory (Wheat has a Super Starch -- amylopectin A that is super fattening) and it also is super addictive & makes you crave and eat more.




JENNILACEY
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2/4/13 7:06 A

Depends on the person, depends on the carbs.

Some people do better on low carb diets, some people do better on lower fat diets. I guess women are suppose to do better on low carb, higher fat diets (generally speaking). Personally, I eat a moderate amount of carbs (40-50% of my daily intake) and I've experienced nothing but quick weight loss. I could never sustain a low carb diet for life, I love my carbs.

Complex carbs (whole grains, vegetables, legumes, lentils, nuts/seeds and fruit has some) take longer for your body to breakdown (which keeps you feeling fuller longer and gives you a steady stream of energy) they do not cause as high of a spike to your GI unlike simple carbs like refined grains/sugars. When your GI spikes it produces lots of insulin which an overload when not used gets stored as fat. They will also causes you to crash and feel hungrier so you're more prone to overeating because they burn away much quicker than complex carbs.

I try to get in more complex carbs than simple but I'm not opposed to having some refined carbs in my diet as well. The key is moderation. I still bake muffins/breads, I still eat sandwiches, I still have chocolate once in awhile and other sweets on special occassions (bdays/holidays). The key is to fit them into a 80-90% healthy diet. Not everyone finds they can do that without going overboard, some people do better to completely abstain. Just like with alcohol, some people can enjoy it in moderation. Others have to abstain completely or risk having a drinking problem.

Edited by: JENNILACEY at: 2/4/2013 (11:41)


CHARMIAN2
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2/4/13 4:41 A

I don't think so



LOVE4KITTIES
Posts: 1,795
2/4/13 2:56 A

Low carb seems to be trendy these days, but it's not a sustainable lifestyle for most people. Most people go low carb because they feel like they need to in order to lose weight. They inevitably go back to eating the way they were eating before and regain their lost weight, plus a little more. But, you don't need to do this to yourself to lose weight and you really shouldn't do anything to lose weight that you cannot maintain for a lifetime. The key to successful weight loss (and successful maintenance of that weight loss) is to make lifestyle changes that you can stick with for the rest of your life.

Carbs are not evil and they will not prevent you from losing weight at a healthy rate. Many foods that are high in carbohydrate content are also packed with nutrients. I lost almost 100 lbs eating the amount of carbs recommended by Spark People. It did not slow down my weight loss and I was not hungry or miserable. I was happy, full and satisfied with my meal plans.

Edited by: LOVE4KITTIES at: 2/4/2013 (02:57)


LILLIPUTIANNA
Posts: 1,038
2/4/13 1:11 A

You have to eat carbs. That's the primary fuel our bodies run on. Not getting enough will cause issues with your heart and with your ability to think. Eat higher quality carbs. Get rid of the refined, white crap, and you'll be fine.




CORTNEY-LEE
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2/3/13 7:34 P

I eat lower carb and chose to get most of my carbs from fruits and veggies. My body can handle a little grain, but not a lot. I try to limit it to 2-3 servings a day of grains.

I am not perfect, and it doesn't work out all of the time, but I am good with 80% of it.

You have to do what feels right for your body and you have to do something you can sustain.



ARIABOO10
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2/3/13 6:44 P

I agree with the posts below. I tried low carb and honestly did not see much of a change. Now eating what I normally would (cut out fast food and tons of sweets) just having smaller portions and working out. Now the weight is dropping and even if I skip a few days of working out I've noticed it's staying off.

Now that I have Hypothyroidism I've been told to cut the recommended carb consumption in half! I haven't cut it in half fully (maybe 30%) and I'm still losing weight. Personally you know your body! Do what feels right



UNIDENT
Posts: 33,498
2/3/13 6:25 P

If you've always used low carb to lose weight fast, why do you need to lose weight again?

Ask yourself how "long term successful" that approach is.

Either you're regaining that weight each time, or you've dropped and stopped, dropped and stopped.



DRAGONCHILDE
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2/3/13 6:16 P

Nope. All carbs are not created equally, but carbs are an important part of your diet, and you can't avoid them completely anyway (even if you want to.)

Here's a great article about the Truth about Carbs.

www.sparkpeople.com/resource/nutrition_art
icles.asp?id=590


See my ticker? Not only have I NOT avoided carbs, I love them. ;) I've just switched out the majority of my simple carbs for healthier, smarter complex carbs.

Edited by: DRAGONCHILDE at: 2/3/2013 (18:16)


NAUSIKAA
Posts: 4,848
2/3/13 5:36 P

I don't think it matters. The speed of weight loss is far, far less important than the weight loss itself over a long period of time. Which of the following scenarios is preferable to you?

A) Lose 30 lbs in 3 months. Regain 45 lbs over the next year.

B) Lose 100 lbs in 2 years. Keep it off more or less for the next 6 years.

I've done both. A) was when I did a low-carb diet (religiously, to the point of obsession). B) was when I did a high carb low calorie diet (religiously, to the point of obesession).



ANITAWIN1
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2/3/13 5:14 P

Do you think that carbs slow down weight loss, even if they are good carbs? I have always turned to a low carb diet to lose weight in the past and I find myself thinking that eating carbs is slowing down my weight loss. I guess I have always used a low carb diet to lose pounds fast and I am feeling frustrated that my weight loss is slow (that's a good thing right?)



 
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