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LOLA_LALA Posts: 659
12/7/13 10:15 P

See? No telling what works, is there? I'm a non-petite (long waist), narrow-shouldered, short-legged wonder who weighs 116 (as of today) and is all over the map, size-wise. I only shop for sizes as an initial way to cull through "possible" fits. Sometimes I'm a small; sometimes, a medium, and ALWAYS, the pants have to be tailored (flat rear end). emoticon

EELPIE Posts: 2,669
12/7/13 6:36 P

Reminds me of a friend I have known for 20 years now. Size 4 without exception. No exercise (fiddled around enough for spell check to figure out what I was trying to type!!). I tired mimicking her daily diet....and gained 5 pounds :(

LOLA_LALA Posts: 659
12/7/13 4:43 P

I think that's what's important, EELPIE: finding what works best for each of us, and that often turns out to be an individual solution. Well said!

EELPIE Posts: 2,669
12/7/13 2:02 P

Ha ha thanks, but my metabolism isn't that great. I just found the eating lifestyle that works best for my body I guess.

ADARKARA Posts: 1,271
12/7/13 2:01 P

RAVELGIRLY - I'm thinking you might want to shake up your calories a little bit, and I can't see your nutrition/exercise tracker but it may be you're working out too hard for how much you're eating. It wouldn't hurt to re-xamine your CICO (calories in, calories out).

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12/7/13 1:15 P

EELPIE, wow! I am in awe of your metabolism. I exercise 260 minutes a week, eat around 1300 calories a day, and I can't get my weight below 133!

EELPIE Posts: 2,669
12/7/13 12:59 P

Ok - ready for my big admit? I don't excersize - I can't even spell word correctly! Spell check is lost, has no clue.

I know this is blasphemy here. Sorry folks. And I give so much credit to those who do workout. I read posts here where people workout 5 times a week, and I'm just in awe of them!

I did excersize in the beginning, but it's just not in my lifestyle, so I decided not to pursue it. I'm trying to create a lifestyle change, and continuing excersizing just isn't something I ever see me continuing. :)

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12/7/13 12:32 P

ADARKARA, I have been eating in this range for a year. EELPIE, that's interesting. How many calories do you burn through exercise weekly? I'd love to get down to 128-130!!

ARCHIMEDES, last night made me a believer that size is a meaningless number. My friend had a clothing exchange party. A Talbots size 12 that a friend had in her closet for ages fit me perfectly. A size 10 Maggy London dress fit. And a size 8 skirt from a third brand fit. Go figure!

Edited by: RAVELGIRLY at: 12/7/2013 (12:51)
EELPIE Posts: 2,669
12/7/13 12:29 P

ADARKARA, I've been having success doing that as well. For some reason it seems to reset my metabolism. I do a few days (3-4) of under 1200, then one day I have almost 2,000. I'm still eating healthy though, those extra calories aren't from junk food.



ADARKARA Posts: 1,271
12/6/13 8:23 P

Question - how long have you been eating in that range? sometimes the body gets used to eating within a range and holds onto the weight. I often lose weight a few days after eating over my calories by a few hundred. It shakes up my system a bit I find. Perhaps you could try eating 1800 calories for one day, then going back to your standard. Just a thought!

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12/6/13 3:52 P

I think my body may be saying "this is the finish line". I've been hovering at 133-134 for a month now and I've stopped losing inches too. I guess it just bothers me that other short women always seem to be size 4 or 6 while I'm a 10. I'm working my butt off but I guess this is as small as I can get. Still, it's a lot better than the size 20 I was this time last year!

I'm scared to increase my calories because I've been maintaining for the last month on 1250-1350. I really want to succeed at keeping the weight off. It's going to take determination and effort - my body is already fighting me. All of a sudden, my appetite is stronger and I'm craving sweets constantly. I've done so well for the last year so I am puzzled as to why it feels so much tougher now. I'm staying strong, but it's unpleasant to have my stomach growling two hours after every meal.


LOLA_LALA Posts: 659
12/5/13 7:39 P

I'm with the wise Archimedes on this, RAVELGIRLY! Be proud of your terrific, dramatic progress! The sizes I take vary so much that it's impossible to pin myself down to one size. And no matter what, I still always need to get pants tailored, so I've come to ignore those annoying little size tags. For the clothing consumer's sake, though, I very much wish there was size consistency between and among clothing manufacturers...

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12/3/13 5:14 P

You are so right - that's why shopping for clothes is frustratingI have to take several sizes back to the dressing room to find one that fits. I was in a size 20w this time last year. Now, I have no idea. Sometimes I'm an 8, sometimes a 10. Someone told me that today's size 10 is really a 12 and that made me feel bad about myself, like what I've accomplished isn't enough.

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12/3/13 4:23 P

RAVELGIRLY,

There is nothing I like waxing poetic about then women's clothing sizes. Let me tell you about some of the pairs of pants I own. I have pants in sizes 12,10, 8 and 6. They are all the same "size".

Even though you might be in between sizes for a certain brand of clothes, try a different brand. Size 8 in Ralph Lauren is different than a size 8 in Anne Taylor which is different than a size 8 in Old Navy. You may not fit size 8 in Ralph Lauren or Old Navy, BUT you might fit size 8 in Anne Taylor.

The point is this. Women's clothing sizes are not standardized at all. So, try on different sizes of pants. because one size really doesn't fit all. You may well fit a size 8 or whatever size you wear. that's why I never buy by size. I always try on the clothes to see what fits.

If you don't like the size on the tag, cut out the tag. Honestly, what is a size 8 ? What is the waist size ? What is the hip dimension ? It's so variable, a size 8 could have a 30 inch waist in one brand and a 31 in another. Yet another reason I hate shopping for clothes.


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12/3/13 4:06 P

Thank you both for the replies.

ARCHIMEDES, what you are suggesting is totally reasonable but I'm hesitant even so. You see, I'm currently in between sizes. I would love to get into that smaller size and stay there. Plus I have heard that you gain a couple of pounds when you move to maintenance.

LOLA, thanks for sharing your experience. I should ask my doctor about this. She has been very encouraging all the way along this journey but I've not yet asked her what my goal weight should be. It was so far away for so long that I didn't want to even think about the final number!


LOLA_LALA Posts: 659
12/1/13 6:23 P

Say, RAVELGIRLY - Major congratulations are in order for your losing those 75 pounds!! I know from experience that this really represents a sustained, Herculean effort, so I hope you'll stop and give yourself a generous pat on the back for such an amazing achievement!

I lost the same amount of weight and recall that for those last few weeks, I would lose a small fraction of a pound a week - if that. One month went by during which I lost nothing, I remember. I've never had caliper testing done, but rather, I just talked to my internist about the best weight range to aim for. You might talk to your doctor, too, and get that input - it'll help you establish the most reasonable goal for you...as well as the maintenance caloric level you'll need to maintain it.

All the best!

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12/1/13 4:12 P

RAVELGIRLY,

When is the last time you updated your nutrition tracker ? If your nutrition tracker is based on your old weight, then you need to change the information so that it is current.

Depending on the amount of exercise you do per day, you would need to increase the amount of calories you eat to ensure your body gets all the fuel it needs to function properly.

If you've been eating 1300-1400 to lose, in theory, you should be eating at least 1800-1900 to maintain. this assumes you add back the 500 calories you deducted in order to lose 1 pound per week.

One pound of fat = 3,500 calories. In order to lose one pound per week, it is assumed we decrease the amount of calories we eat for seven days by 500. So, if you've been trying to lose weight, then you need to add back the calories you decreased when you started. If eating an extra 500 per day seems like too much, then slowly add back the calories by 100 each week until you are eating at your maint level.



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12/1/13 3:42 P

ARCHIMEDESII, I can see that focusing on maintenance for a few months could be a good idea. If nothing else, it would ease the mental pressure. I guess I'm already maintaining if I'm not losing now, but it's a bummer to think I may have to eat 1300 calories a day to maintain. It seems like I do enough exercise to "earn" more calories than that! Spark says my range is 1310-1600 to lose those last 3 pounds, but as that's not happening at 1300-1400, does that mean that 1300-1400 is my actual maintenance range instead of the projected 1800?

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12/1/13 2:39 P

RAVELGIRLY,

What you're experiencing is not unusual. While a safe weekly weight loss would be 1-2 pounds per week (for someone who is obese), that's not true for someone with the last 5-10 pounds to lose. The closer a person is to a healthy weight for their height, the harder and longer it takes to lose those last few. So, you may have been able to take the weight off quickly when you were overweight. BUT now that you are at a healthy weight for your height, those last few pounds are going to be SLOOOOOOOW going.

Don't beat yourself up because you aren't losing 1-2 pounds per week. With 3-5 pounds to lose, expect that lost to take months, not weeks. And that is perfectly normal.

Instead of worrying about those last 3-5 pounds, why not concentrate on keeping off the 80 pounds you've already lost. It's one thing to take the weight off. It's another to keep it off. No one should be on a permanent diet. At some point, you are going to have to start maintaining the weight you've already lost. My advice would be to take 4-6 months to maintain your loss. Let your body get used to the lighter weight. As your body stabilizes and adapts, then you can consider losing those last few.

But for now, if you keep trying to lose, your body will fight you. That's why you need to consider going into maintenance for a few months. Yes, months, not weeks. Most people start regaining the weight in the first few weeks. That's why you have to give your body a few months to adjust.

You are not a failure because you haven't reached your goal weight. Losing 80 pounds is pretty phenomenal !! Now, the hard part. You need to start thinking about maintaining. Don't worry about those last few pounds. To know that you have truly taken the weight off and will keep it off, you must maintain your weight for two years. And that's going to be a lot harder than trying to lose those last few.

That's why I'm encouraging you to stop dieting and start maintaining. You can work on fitness goals as you learn to maintain your loss. Adding lean muscle with a good strength training program will help you lower your body fat, with time. But you do have to be patient. Adding lean muscle takes a long time too.



Edited by: ARCHIMEDESII at: 12/1/2013 (14:40)
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12/1/13 1:04 P

I'm down to the last few pounds and they just aren't budging, I'm 5'2" (or 5'1" based on last measurement at doctor) female, 43 years old, starting weight 210, current weight 133. Goal is 130. That's barely in the healthy BMI range if I'm 5'1" now. Ideally, I'd love to be 128 so that I weigh 130 clothed on the doctor's scale.

Anyway, those last few pounds just don't seem to be budging. I'm eating under 1300 on rest days and under 1400 on workout days. This is within my spark range. I have it set to take the entire month of December to lose those 3 pounds and accounting for 1900 cal/week exercise. I run for 40 minutes twice a week, run for 60 once a week, do kettlebells for 55 minutes twice a week. I try to eat a balanced, healthful diet, avoiding processed foods and refined sugars. A 3-site caliper test by my trainer estimates my body fat at 25%.
Yet my weight has remained the same for two weeks now.

How long did it take you to lose those last few pounds?
Is it normal to stall out close to the end?
Should I take this as a sign that 133 is my final weight?
Does this mean 1300-1400 is actually my maintenance level forever?

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