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AMBERDAVVN SparkPoints: (237)
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7/11/13 12:16 A

Thank you,

I will try anything - I signed up :)

LUCYPAPERHANGER SparkPoints: (10,923)
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7/10/13 7:35 P

I encourage you to sign up for the SP Official Better Sleep Challenge. I'm a terrible insomniac, but I'm now on Day 6 of Week One... and lo and behold, I've just started sleeping like a log the past two nights! Unbelievable!!! I am seeing results and I'm determined to keep up with the entire Challenge. Here's the link:

I feel for ya-- I hope you get a good night's sleep SOON! emoticon

Edited by: LUCYPAPERHANGER at: 7/10/2013 (19:37)
AMBERDAVVN SparkPoints: (237)
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7/10/13 7:02 P

Thank you for the suggestion about Melatonin. Doesnt work. I actually am going to consider tryptophan next.. providing it doesnt interfere with medication.

AMBERDAVVN SparkPoints: (237)
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7/10/13 7:00 P

yes, there are times (usually during a deep down phase - bipolar also - the medication I take early in the morning and doesnt effect the insomnia) where I can sleep, but during those times I sleep like 15 hours its nuts! Few and far between now. I have not had an uninturrupted night of sleep in years. Ive been playing around when the best time is to work out.. pre-nap or post..

AMBERDAVVN SparkPoints: (237)
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7/10/13 6:56 P

Yes, I have had Medical Doctors as well as Psychiatrists evaluations.

AMBERDAVVN SparkPoints: (237)
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7/6/13 8:04 A

Yup Ive been up since 3:30 - its now 5.

so tired... emoticon

if life was a turtle race, I wouldnt move. lol. tomorrow will be better..

TACDGB Posts: 6,136
11/8/12 12:24 A

I take melatonin and that usually does help me. Some nights nothing helps. If your sleep is effected by stress try fixing the stress. I do know if I work on my stress things are better. I also take a hot bubble bath before bed somethimes and that can help.

GARDEMON SparkPoints: (80,839)
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11/7/12 8:36 P

Last three days I had slept between three and five hours a day. Today only I felt dizzy all day. Full of energy nevertheless. I finished all my tasks for today. Hope I can get more than six hours today....

OBIESMOM2 SparkPoints: (245,995)
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11/7/12 2:16 P

@Dizzy - you may be one of those people who just doesn't need 8 hours of sleep. Do you feel tired all the time? A really good night's sleep for me is 6 hours. It's very rare for me to sleep 8 hours (unless I'm sick or recovering from surgery).

melatonin does nothing for me. As I said in my earlier post, usually my problem is staying asleep. Sometimes drinking chamomile tea will make me drowsy again when I wake up in the wee hours.

I do have a non-addictive prescription that I take when the insomnia is really bad, but I don't take it very often. As long as I'm getting 4-6 hours of quality sleep, I'm fine. I know that sounds odd to 'normal' people, but I've been this was as long as I can remember. I stopped using an alarm clock in middle school because I always woke up about 30 minutes before the alarm any way.

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11/7/12 11:57 A

Try "Sleepy time Tea" It is sold in the grocery stores with the other teas. It has natural herb to help calm and relax you so you can sleep.


DROPCONE Posts: 1,592
11/7/12 11:43 A

If I were you I would try to pay more attention to sleep hygiene then. Here is an article I found helpful for a starting point:

I used to burn the midnight oil easily, and be able to sleep anytime at the drop of a hat, and then I was working off-shift schedules for a long time, and so I was chronically sleep deprived. At some point last year I got to the point where I was literally going nuts because I couldn't sleep hardly at all. I did eventually solve the problem without going on any medication except melatonin (which I then was able to stop), but it's much, much better to never get to that point at all!

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11/7/12 3:48 A

Thank you so much everyone for your advice! emoticon

I did see a doctor a few months ago regarding it (as it has started to get worse) and she told me to try melatonin, which does sometimes work, however I think the insomnia for me is generally stress related, and normally due to my brain being overactive (I'm sure we've all been there at some point!). I've been this way pretty much my whole life (I started having sleep issues around age 8 - I'm now 31), so I think I'm just 'built' this way!

I do have days when I sleep better (although I'm not sure I ever feel particularly 'rested'), and so if possible try to workout on those days, but as I shoot for going to the gym 5 times per week, it does get tricky to manage it all if I miss too many!

Hunger/ overeating can become as issue when I'm that tired, but I normally try to manage it so that I at least eat at the higher end of my calories on those days, as tired + feeling deprived can turn me into a bit of a monster! emoticon

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11/7/12 12:40 A

If you are getting THAT little of sleep, then I would choose sleep over exercise. I don't think exercising on that small amount of sleep would be safe!

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11/6/12 7:52 P

Yesterday I had such an intense day I was completely awake when I went to bed. Slept only three and a half hour. Today I did 285 Fitness minutes!!!
Biking 120
Yoga 105
Walking 60
I guess i will fall asleep in a while...

BARBWMS Posts: 1,396
11/6/12 4:44 P

That's rough. I would talk to the doctor and see if there is some underlying cause. I had horrendous insomnia during the years of perimenopause and menopause, but it's gone away now, luckily, though there are nights when I don't sleep as well as I'd like.

I try not to exercise too close to bedtime; nor do I get on the computer the hour or so before bedtime. I have a cup of hot herbal tea, read quietly... and if all else fails, melatonin has never let me down.

Good luck with it!

OBIESMOM2 SparkPoints: (245,995)
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11/6/12 3:31 P

emoticon another chronic insomniac here. My problem is usually staying asleep more than falling asleep. And I do just what is described in the OP - I get sleepy right around the time I'd be getting up for the day. When that happens, I'm sleeping soundly when I would normally exercise.

If my insomnia has been going on for several days, and I feel like I can grab another hour of sleep...I sleep. If it's just been one or two nights, and I'm awake any way, I exercise.

Listen to your body and you'll know what to do. There are definitely times when I need sleep way more than I need exercise!

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11/6/12 10:09 A

Can you workout at night? I have a difficult time falling asleep myself, but exercising at night, increase carb intake and some melatonin usually does the trick. Also, eliminate caffeine intake after 11 or noon.

To answer your question, I've gotten up early like that to exercise and my performance is always subpar. Your mileage may vary.

On nights where I slept terribly, sometimes I'll take a power nap when I get home from work and then exercise. These are some of my best sessions.

Just some ideas.

MPLANE37 SparkPoints: (78,864)
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11/6/12 9:55 A

Does it cause overeating? Being short of sleep does cause overeating for most people.

If it does, you are better off getting as much sleep as you can, because it would be very hard if not impossible to compensate for the extra calories due to overeating.

If you can manage your hunger in spite of being short of sleep, then go ahead and exercise.

DROPCONE Posts: 1,592
11/6/12 9:47 A

If it's a one-off thing, I usually go ahead and get up normally. It sounds like your insomnia is more chronic than that, though. Do you have days that you are able to get a normal amount of sleep in which you feel rested after waking?

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11/6/12 8:54 A

Thanks for sharing.

Edited by: CEDRIC456 at: 11/6/2012 (08:57)
N16351D Posts: 2,349
11/6/12 8:45 A

Have you sought the advice from a physician for the insomnia? Though not a health professional myself, it seems that there is something wrong when you have not been able to sleep soundly for many years.

Yes, the topic of getting more sleep or rising for exercise is with many of us. I've struggled with that for the forty years I have been exercising along with family, home, work, school, etc.

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11/6/12 7:08 A

I've suffered from insomnia for as long as I can remember, and generally have at least 1 night per week where I sleep for a maximum of 2 or 3 hours.

My dilemma on those days is whether to get up and workout as scheduled, or stay in bed and get some [much needed] sleep (as an example, I finally started to sleep on/ off at 3am last night, and was supposed to get up to work out at 5.50am).

I workout in the morning as I find that exercising in the evening exacerbates the problem.

Are there any fellow suffers with this problem? What is your priority - sleep or exercise?

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