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LADYSTARWIND SparkPoints: (23,689)
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5/28/13 10:55 P

I'm another one who has always loved milk.... But you can learn to cut down just a bit, and be just as satisfied! Like you, it was a glass of milk with each meal--plus whatever was on my cereal in the morning!! lol... I found out I was pre-diabetic though, and some major changes were in order. New strategy: drink a glass of water WITH the meal, and have my milk -a one cup serving- at the end! :0 Best of both worlds!! And by all means, plan the meal ahead to allow those milk calories to be included. Now I'm quite satisfied with one or two glasses a day--and the best part-- my pre-diabetes is in control.

Hope your doctor visit goes well! Keep us posted!
patti

LEKSIPATSY Posts: 380
5/28/13 7:47 P

I love milk too - I drink 2%. I would never water it down - that is just gross. Milk is very nutritious, it has protein, and good fat, and just makes you happy.

I would cut back to 2 cups a day if not for the diet than for the wallet. At $6/gallon (unless you are drinking the hormone laden stuff) and 1/2 gallon a day you are spending $21/week on milk!

LDHAWKE SparkPoints: (19,069)
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5/28/13 1:23 P

Dietitician Becky recommended no more than 3 cups per day. Have one with breakfast, one with dinner and save the last one for snacks. Do you think you can cut it down to 3 cups per day?

CHOCOLATELEA SparkPoints: (2,531)
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5/28/13 1:05 P

I accidentally watered down milk as a child and wondered why it tasted so awful. Who knew? Milk is mostly water anyway! LOL.

If you want less sugar and the benefits of milk for tummy coating purposes, get some plain old yogourt (I think you can find some with only 3g/sugar per serving) and water it down to a milk consistency. It won't taste as good (not as much sugar), but if you do that for three of your servings and have milk for the fourth one (say, as "dessert" after dinner), you can free up some of your sugar space. (Some people like using yogourt on their cereal as is, and Mediterranean countries love that stuff.)

RUSSELL_40 Posts: 16,826
5/27/13 2:10 P

As someone who grew up drinking powdered milk, adding water makes it taste horrible...lol

We always tend to analyze every food discussion in a vacuum. 4 glasses of milk is either bad or good.

We should be thinking also about what she would be drinking instead of the 4 glasses of milk. If it is water, great. She cut her sugar intake of 48 grams in liquid form. If it is Pepsi, she is now drinking 109 grams of sugar in the same 32 ozs., a gain of 61 grams of sugar.. horrible.

Plus their is the calcium aspect of those glasses of milk.. 120% of her RDA. Replacing that is troublesome. I don't drink milk, and calcium RDA is hard to reach.

If you are diabetic, and are thirsty, milk probably isn't the best thing to drink, but there are many things worse, like pop, or fruit juice. Even V8 Splash has more sugar per cup. I also find that it isn't so much the overall sugar that is a problem, but how much at one time.

Get your A1C tested and find out if you are diabetic, and THEN make decisions with the help of your doctor, or a dietitian. Any decisions made now, will be scrapped if you ARE diabetic. If you aren't, you have a lot more options.

JIMTHEATHEIST Posts: 378
5/27/13 11:00 A

Milk does a body good! Pass it on!

MONKEYMOM999 SparkPoints: (1,498)
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5/27/13 10:39 A

i also love milk but have been able to cut down. b4 i would only drink coffee and milk but now i drink less milk and have water. maybe cut each serving and have 1 cup with every meal instead of ur big 2 cup. that way u still have it and wont feel deprived of it,

DIETITIANBECKY Posts: 26,624
5/27/13 9:19 A

4 cups would not be an excessive intake. But I suggest not going any higher either.
And...I assume you are finding room to fit in foods from the other food groupings in the appropriate amounts for a balanced diet. (fruits, veggies, meat/protein, whole grains, etc).

Becky

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5/27/13 4:36 A

I do like milk- but it seems not to the extent that you do!

As for the glass size, yes, I certainly use a different size than you. My family always used a smaller glass for milk and juice, and it holds about one cup. Even our larger water glasses hold less than 1.5 cups.

And I'm with you on watering down the milk. My one grandmother used to do that, and my father still tells horror stories about it.

JANKE1028 SparkPoints: (26,263)
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5/27/13 3:27 A

Watering down your milk doesn't seem too appealing to me either. I'm a 2% milk drinker and skim milk seems watered down to me!

Four cups of skim milk a day does sound like a lot to most, so I would suggest actually measuring with a measured glass how much you are actually drinking if you haven't done that already.

The SP nutritional tracker says there's about 50 grams of carbs in 4 cups of skim milk. That's alright, and it's less than half of the normal total daily intake - I'll admit, I'm not sure what the restriction is for a diabetic. What's important is that you are not over consuming added and refined sugar like cookies or soft drinks.

Good luck on your glucose tolerance test! I hope you get normal results!

Edited by: JANKE1028 at: 5/27/2013 (03:29)
LIZ_DUNCAN SparkPoints: (33)
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5/27/13 12:11 A

Well, a glass with lunch and a glass with dinner, so...about 4 cups, I guess. And before I started watching my diet, I would have it with snacks, too. A brownie, a cookie, a granola bar...without milk, what's the point? LOL

DIETITIANBECKY Posts: 26,624
5/26/13 10:08 P

So how much milk do you drink daily?
Becky

LIZ_DUNCAN SparkPoints: (33)
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5/26/13 9:40 P

With all due respect...the idea of putting water in my milk is disgusting. I guess I am just doomed because I simply cannot give up milk. As a child, I lived in a small town where the grocery store closed at 6pm, and I can remember sobbing my heart out if we ran out of milk before the store opened the next day. As an adult, I still feel my anxiety rise when I have less than a quarter of a gallon left in the fridge. I don't know what this weird addiction is but it's just a part of my life. I was hoping to find someone else here that understood but so far no luck. Oh well.

NIRERIN Posts: 11,912
5/26/13 7:11 P

if your regular sized drink tumbler holds all the dairy you need for the day [2 servings], then yes, it is a big glass.
as far as what you want to do, you have several options. if you love milk, not cutting it out is a good idea. but, because you love milk so much, you may need to scale back a little. don't get me wrong, milk has nutrients, but it doesn't have so many and varied nutrients that you should ingest it to the exclusion of other things. one easy thing that you can start to do is to water down your milk a little. and by a little i am talking about having 15 oz instead of 16 and making up that extra ounce in water. give yourself a few weeks to adjust to that, bring the milk down to 14 oz and the water up to 2 oz. give it another few weeks. you can work this to wherever you happen to maximize the amount of water and the taste of milk. another option you have is to have a glass of milk [an 8 oz glass of milk] with your meals.
then you have to look at the rest of your diet. you need basic nutrients and 2-3 glasses [8 oz glasses] of milk in that assumption shouldn't hurt you or make it difficult to get the other nutrients you need in. once you account for those extra nutrients in your calories, anything between that base and the top of your ranges is a discretionary calorie, which means you can spend it on whatever you want. keep in mind that if you choose to have milk, that might mean not having cookies or cake or chips or what have you. and that is the balance that you're going to have to find. so if your ranges are 1200-1550 and you're at 1340 just getting basic nutrients in, then that means you have 210 cals to play with as discretionary calories. you can spend those calories on anything you like. and this is where what you're eating the rest of the time and how that fills you up comes in to play. if having extra milk sates you and keeps you happy, by all means, have it. it's certainly not the worst beverage vice one could have. but if you find that you're hungry you may need to spend those calories on heartier food. again, we're talking scaling back the portions of milk, not eliminating them entirely.

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5/26/13 5:26 P

You think a regular sized drink tumbler is a large glass? Wow, we really come from different worlds. I can't stand plain water (it makes me nauseous) so if I didn't have milk I would be really dehydrated!

LIZ_DUNCAN SparkPoints: (33)
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5/26/13 5:23 P

I'm using the tracker at myfitnesspal.

BRANDONPA Posts: 73
5/26/13 4:58 P

I started drinking raw milk. That is some great tasting milk.

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5/26/13 4:49 P

That's a pretty large glass of milk! Our bodies can't properly absorb calcium in large doses, so I don't have more than 1 cup of milk or yogurt at one time.

DIETITIANBECKY Posts: 26,624
5/26/13 3:53 P

I don't think you can track "sugar" here at Sparkpeople on your Nutrition Tracker, so I am not sure about the values you share. Can you provide more??

2 cups of milk would give you about 24 grams of carbohydate (which would fit within your total carb range)
Yes, there is natural sugar in milk (lactose), this is not an added sugar as is found in candy, cake, cookies, etc.

A general recommendation is no more than 3 cups of fluid milk daily.

Becky
SP Registered Dietitian Nutritionist

LUV2SURFCHIC Posts: 705
5/26/13 3:45 P

I loved milk until I had a baby. Grew lactose intolerant. It causes me such agony I can't have it in any form.

LIZ_DUNCAN SparkPoints: (33)
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5/26/13 3:25 P

I've always had a serious addiction to milk. I love the taste of it and it is my "coffee" in that my day doesn't feel right until I've had some. I've had stomach ulcers in the past and even though many people say it is an old wives' tale, I know that milk helps soothe my stomach. So long story short, milk needs to be a part of my diet. If it were up to me, I would have it with every meal. I only drink skim milk or, depending on the brand, 1/2 or 1%.

The problem is that on my food tracker, by the time I have had a glass of milk in the morning (2 cups), I only have 9 grams of sugar left for the rest of my day. Is there anybody else out there who loves milk like I do, and if so what do you do about this?

PS - I have never been diagnosed as diabetic but I am having bloodwork done in 2 weeks and I'm very afraid I might be, so it is important to me to keep my sugar intake reasonable.

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