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LIZAS918 Posts: 5
3/22/13 12:03 P

LILLIPUTIANNA - I've actually experimented with a lot of different levels of carbs. I'm insulin resistant PCOS and on metformin for it. So anything more than 100 carbs a day and I don't lose weight. If I wasn't IR I'm sure you'd be right but until I dropped my carbs below 100 I was hardly losing any weight at all. Once I did that I was losing consistently and that's how I dropped the 20 pounds I've lost. I really don't feel deprived at all. I'm always full. The carbs I do eat are good carbs from fruits and sweet potatoes. I really think this behavior is emotional/stress related because I've been at this carb level for nearly 6 months without this kind of problem.

LILLIPUTIANNA Posts: 1,038
3/21/13 6:59 P

Your carb level is too low. While others aren't convinced that your donut craving comes from that, I would personally be willing to bet the farm on it.

My recommended intake is 135 - 252 for carbs. Given that I have the lowest recommended amount of calories per day that SP suggests, that puts your 60-100 WAY lower.

Craving are our body's way of communicating with us. Increase your carb intake and as I said, I'll bet the farm that you'll be just fine, and the cravings will vanish.

LIZAS918 Posts: 5
3/21/13 3:35 P

Thank you Archimedes - those are actually really great suggestions. And I probably have been under more stress than I realize. Fertility treatments we were undergoing didn't work so as of a couple weeks ago were taking a break from nearly 3 unsuccessful years of trying to get pregnant. On top of that we're under a little short term financial strain and we just finished moving. I also found out recently my husband might temporarily have to go to Louisiana for 3 months to help a new branch there and the thought of being away from him is more than I want to think about.

I guess until you asked it I really hadn't thought about all the sources of stress I'm trying to ignore. Like I said this is really not like me. I can normally do things in moderation no problem and I don't really deprive myself, so this binging has just come out of nowhere. I'm gonna try to find a better outlet for my stress than donuts! Thank you so much for your reply.

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3/21/13 3:33 P

Hi Liza,

Bunnykicks offered some really insightful advice. While paleo-primal diets are all the rage these days, when we cut out or severely restrict key nutrients our bodies need, especially carbs, our bodies aren't getting the needed vitamins, minerals and other nutrients to sustained balanced living.

Don't misunderstand me. I do not think that your craving for donuts is totally the result of restricting carbs.

Unlocking the door as to why we binge is probably one of the toughest parts of the journey.

First of all recognize that many times we are led to a binge because physiologically we allowed ourselves to get too hungry therefore as the old saying goes when we are exposed to food, many times "our eyes are bigger than our stomachs."

Secondly, you must really decide if you are truly hungry, or if you are eating out of stress, boredom, because you are tired or lonely, etc, etc. This is honing in on what I call, "the why we do, what we do, when we do it" scenario. This is where keeping a journal is a VERY helpful tool as it will help you see if there is a pattern with your bingeing.

Thirdly, know that when we continually deprive ourselves or make certain foods off limits, many times this draws us even more so to them. There are no 'good' foods or 'bad' foods, just choices. But if you allow yourself to occasionally have them (this is where planning is key), they no longer carry the stigma of thinking this will be it. And of course for me that meant I was less then perfect, therefore I would allow guilt to move, therefore I would abandon my plan until I was ready to try to lose weight again...no more.

Lastly, know that you are in full control over the food. In other words, food does not have control over us unless we allow it to.

I hope this helps!

Coach Nancy

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3/21/13 3:25 P

LIZAS918,

Welcome to Spark People ! Have you been under any unusual stress these last couple of weeks ? Excess stress, anxiety and worry can all cause a person to turn to food for comfort. I firmly believe that stress is a neglect aspect of weight gain. If a person could reduce their stress, they'd automatically reduce their waistline.

So, if you're under stress, you need to find better ways to vent that stress that don't involve donuts.

And one question you have to ask yourself is why six donuts instead of one ? Have you been denying yourself treats ? When people say they are being good, it makes me wonder if they are being too strict. Spark People isn't about deprivation. It's all about moderation and portion control. A donut or brownie, soda, candy, beer, etc... can all be a part of a healthy lifestyle as long as you are mindful of the portion.

Why six donuts ? If you know you're going to binge eat them later, perhaps it would be best to stay away from the baked goods section of the store when you're shopping. Have you tried sitting and slowly eating one donut ? that may be worth a try. don't inhale the donuts like a Hoover. buy one and take your time eating. Then get some paper and write out what it is about that donut you find satisfying ? Or maybe you're not satisfied. If so, what feelings are driving you to eat more and more ? If you can identify the trigger that is causing you to eat these donuts, that will help you stop the binges.

Just a couple of thoughts.



LIZAS918 Posts: 5
3/21/13 3:16 P

I've thought about that but I've been paleo for about 4 months though and it's only recently, like the last couple weeks I've had this problem. I do eat a good deal of fruit and some carbs like sweet potatoes. When I end up doing this, I'm not even hungry. It feels 100% mental which is weird because I've never really put on myself that I absolutely cannot have 1 donut occasionally. I'd just prefer not to. I'm around 60-100 carbs a day still, just no refined carbs. I just wish all the donuts in the world would dissappear. It sounds so stupid to say that, but this is really the only food I have any issue with at all.

The only difference I can think between 4 months ago and now, is I used to be far more strict keeping my carbs down under 50 so it's weird that I'm having this issue now, when I've let off on how strict I am on carbs.

BUNNYKICKS Posts: 2,310
3/21/13 3:09 P

If your current food plan is leaving you in a binge-crisis, maybe you could think about re-evaluating whether "eating paleo/primal diet" is the right thing for you?

Seems to me your body may be trying to tell you something... like... it needs more carbohydrate-type fuel.... why not try adding some additional healthy/complex carbs (whole grains, fresh fruit and veg, beans and legumes) to your diet, and see if it helps stave off the urgent cravings for refined-carbs/sugar?

LIZAS918 Posts: 5
3/21/13 3:03 P

I'm really at my wits end. I know how to lose weight, I've lost 20 pounds in the last 6 months. Haven't lost any new weight really in the last month or so, I seem to be gaining a few then losing that same few pounds. I follow a mostly paleo/primal diet as I'm trying to lose weight in hopes of reversing my PCOS symptoms. My problem lately is donuts! I don't know what it is but I crave them all the time! Sometimes I can be strong. Other times like Tuesday of this week and again today I find myself grocery shopping at lunch and buying half a dozen Krispy Kreme donuts. Once they're in the cart I can't put them back and Tuesday I ended up eating the whole half dozen in a matter of hours. Again today. I've eaten 4 donuts! I'm throwing the remaining two away and squashing them to pulp just so I'm not tempted. I'm in a panic over this. I don't know how to stop!! For a moment I thought about making myself throw up, which is totally not healthy thinking and completely unlike me.

Has anyone else had a food crutch this strong and out of control?? How did you overcome it? I've tried allowing myself a donut a week but it doesn't work. One donut turns into more. :(

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