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BFMONICA Posts: 1,440
4/11/12 1:25 A

I used to drink soy milk and I switched to almond and coconut milk. I have tofu maybe twice a month but in general I'm avoiding it.

AKINVA Posts: 58
4/10/12 9:54 P

I tried to consume very little soy because it's so processed and also has a lot of estrogen.

LONIANNE SparkPoints: (1,444)
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4/10/12 8:11 P

Personally, I am against soy in all forms. But the food industry makes that nearly impossible because they put it in just about everything. To me, it's really nothing more than a cheap filler in foods. I've never seen soy being labeled as non-GMO, ever.

Soy is not all what it's cracked up to be. There are people who should avoid it; some are actually allergic to it, there are those with thyroid issues (I am one of those people, thus that's why it don't think it's good for us). We still don't know what the long term use of it does to us, and probably never will. The best bet probably is to keep soy consumption in moderation, which also should be done with anything that we consume.

There should be other uses invented for soy besides putting it in foods. Too bad it isn't a fuel alternative. I don't believe that the animals should be fed this junk either, as there's already enough things in the food chain now that are GMO (like the corn, which is widely used as animal feed). Do you know that they are already working on making sugar beets a GMO food? Salmon is already GMO. What's next?

Sorry, I just don't believe that man should be fooling around with the foods that were put here on this earth to provide for us.





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4/7/12 6:44 P

I do eat soy in limited amounts, and ONLY in certain forms.

I will NOT eat soy that has been modified to taste (supposedly) like meat or cheese. Most of that is soy protein isolate (textured soy protein). The process for making that is rather nasty, and the process for making that taste like anything is also nasty. Additives, anyone???

I will eat soy from organic (non-Monsanto) sources, in the form of tofu, tempeh, edamame or (non-wheat-enhanced) tamari sauce. Limited, but if so, it should be fine.



TRILLIANTOO SparkPoints: (40,742)
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4/7/12 6:36 P

I agree with a lot of the posters here.

I believe soy to be a good and useful and healthy food, but also someting that should be eaten in moderation. I also agree that you should read labels and get non-GMO soy, and also try to find out where your soy is grown as I have learned some folks are cutting down rainforests to clear space to grow soybeans.

Personally I'm trying to get a bit more soy in my diet these days due to the benefits of the phytoestrogten compounds, but I do not rely wholly on soy as my protein source either.

ANARIE Posts: 12,432
4/7/12 12:45 P

Excellent point, Russel! We know that obesity is a HUGE risk factor for cancer and heart disease and things like Alzheimer's, so if soy helps you control your weight, you're taking a tiny, possible risk in order to get rid of a huge, definite risk.

RUSSELL_40 Posts: 16,826
4/7/12 11:03 A

Everything can cause cancer now.

One thing we know can, and does cause cancer a lot.. is obesity. If soy is an important part of your diet, which is helping to reduce your weight, I would hesitate to change anything based on rumors, or a few studies. Some of these that say " may cause cancer " are so small of a chance, that dropping 20-30 lbs may offset the possible harm of eating the food.

PARISAPRIL1 SparkPoints: (8,951)
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4/7/12 9:45 A

Fermented soy is how soy has traditionally been eaten throughout history. If you're going to eat soy try an organic fermented soy.

Personally soy makes my stomach and my husbands stomach hurt so we avoid it.

SUMSUMS SparkPoints: (12,159)
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4/7/12 7:59 A

People cant agree. I would say eat it, but try to get the least processed. Also try Almond milk for your milk, as its yummy and it will lower your soy amounts just to keep it balanced

ANARIE Posts: 12,432
4/6/12 6:29 P

Mercola is, in fact, the exact example that consumer protection organizations and science education projects often use to teach what "quack" means. His claims have no research background and often make no logical sense; he blatantly cherry-picks the information he chooses to include in his newsletters, distorts the actual meaning of others' research, and tells his readers NOT to read the original resources because his interpretation is all they need; and he says that the products he sells will save your life and competitors' products are poison. He actually uses the word "poison" for things that are not significantly different from things he sells except for the fact that he doesn't profit for them. If he says that some particular food is dangerous, you can bet his website sells an alternative.

As for whether soy is good or bad, the answer seems to be "yes."

What it looks like is that soy is healthy for most people because it reduces the risk of heart disease (especially for women) and might even help prevent cancer from starting, BUT that if you already have the beginnings of certain types of cancer, large amounts of soy *might* make it grow faster.

But the same thing is true about a lot of things. Making cells grow is a good thing, unless those cells are bad cells. That's why, for example, smokers shouldn't take vitamin E. Most of us need more because it helps our healthy cells replace themselves, but if you smoke, it can make lung cancer grow. It doesn't exactly cause cancer; it just feeds tiny cancers that otherwise might die out on their own or grow so slowly that the smoker would die of emphysema or heart disease before the cancer got big enough to notice.

Soy is mainly associated with prostate cancer and one specific, relatively more rare type of breast cancer. If you have a family history of breast cancer or some sort of risk factor for it, you should talk to your doctor for advice about soy. Men should talk to a doctor about whether prostate cancer or heart disease is a bigger concern. And probably all of us should think about how much soy we're eating. If you drink soy milk, you probably don't need to also pour it over soy cereal and then eat tofu for lunch and soy burgers for dinner. Again, though, that's true of any food. Variety is usually healthier-- don't get all your protein from the same source, whether that source is soy or beef or milk or mushrooms.

JENG829 SparkPoints: (15,083)
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4/6/12 6:21 P

I think most people are confused about soy... yes, they found that isolated isoflavones from soy caused cancer, but they did not study the effect of the whole food. So, for me, I would choose products that are whole - such as edamame as opposed to highly processed soy products.

Some people believe that phytic acid found in soybeans is a good thing for preventing cancer and other diseases. However, this same phytic acid can interfere with mineral absorption (which may or may not be an issue for any individual). Fermented soy (tempeh and miso) generally reduce the phytic acid, making mineral absorption less of an issue.

There has been evidence that soy consumption can interfere with treatment of hypothyroidism, so if you do have a thyroid condition, it is best to not have soy as a major component of your diet. Anecdotally, I have a thyroid condition now, and was vegetarian for 10 years (trying to keep protein levels up through soy products and gluten for a couple of those years). Could be coincidence, and it could be that I have a genetic predisposition to thyroid disease... but still, I do not eat much of it and when I do, it is a small amount, fermented and not overly processed.

So you have good reason to be confused. And only you can really determine how soy fits into your llifestyle. Good luck! :)

NATHELESS Posts: 5,644
4/6/12 6:00 P

www.quackwatch.com/11Ind/mercola.html

I tend to take the recommendations of anyone who wants to sell me supplements (Mercola) with a grain of salt.

When the FDA tells a doctor to stop making illegal claims, that's another point not in their favor.

The Better Business Bureau is also not impressed with Mercola, and gives his company a C-.

ANNEV2012 SparkPoints: (13,528)
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4/6/12 5:49 P

MISSSVJS Posts: 519
4/6/12 3:56 P

And you know Mercola is a quack because??????? If you are going to say something like, at least be able to back up the statement! Of course he's not the only one cautioning about soy - my own doctor does!!!

CALLIEKUMQUAT SparkPoints: (5,333)
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4/6/12 3:53 P

Mercola is a quack.

Secondly, soy is perfectly healthy and fine to consume. Always buy organic soy though to ensure it is not GMO and sprayed with tons of pesticides.

MISSSVJS Posts: 519
4/6/12 3:22 P

Personally, I avoid soy at all costs. Most soy is genetically modified and highly processed. I'm an avid reader of the mercola.com website and there are tons of articles on there about the dangers of soy. Go to that site and do a search on soy - here's one to get you started. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles
/archive/2010/09/18/soy-can-damage-you
r-health.aspx Dr. Mercola believes the only good soy is fermented soy - I've personally never tried it though.

SPARK_COACH_JEN Posts: 56,087
4/6/12 1:15 P

Here's an article you might find helpful:

www.sparkpeople.com/resource/nutrition_art
icles.asp?id=732


Coach Jen

NATHELESS Posts: 5,644
4/6/12 1:08 P

The jury is still out on soy.

You might find this article of interest:
www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/soy-b
lessing-or-curse_b_673912.html


DANIELLEO23 SparkPoints: (142)
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4/6/12 10:51 A

I keep reading that things in soy cause cancer?..I'm confused because a while back I was reading that soy is healthy. So which is it? because I am a vegan and I consume soy everyday...So i'm just curous.

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