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REBECANOLA Posts: 3,279
6/4/09 3:41 P


I eat every few hours on a diet fairly low in carbohydrates, but I also know that oatmeal is one of those foods that has me riding the hungry train all day - even the best of oats! I'm staaaaarving an hour later. It's definitely a blood sugar thing and I'm more sensitive to some foods than others. I do occasionally eat oatmeal as a side in my breakfast along with scrambled eggs and egg whites. I can't take it any other way. It's possible that you just need some more protein.

MBRODY503 Posts: 234
6/4/09 2:40 P

I recommend replacing, some of the oatmeal, with some protein and fat. All that sugar (all carbs turn to sugar in your body no matter how "whole" the grain or how "unrefined" the carb) spikes your blood sugar and then after the big spike it crashes down 2 horus later, making you hungry. Pick up a glucose meter if you like, I would not be surprised if right after eating you were over 200, then 2 hours later down below 100, your body is saying "Aghh! Where did all the sugar go, get me MORE!!!! Lessen the sugar to reduce the spike, and you will not be as hungry as soon! I promise! Eat half the oatmeal, half the fruit, double the nuts, and replace skim with full fat milk. Calories will probalby be about the same and your blood sugar will be happier...

Edited by: MBRODY503 at: 6/4/2009 (14:40)
JENNIFAY3 Posts: 343
6/4/09 1:59 P

One of the easiest ways to obtain vitamin D is through the sun. No food is necessary for that vitamin.

There have been many studies done on how absorbable minerals are from meat or animal products. Calcium in particular has been studied time and time again, with Harvard researchers and government angencies stating that dairy products is not the best way to take in calcium because it isn't as easily absorbed as calcium from leafy greens.

I have a 13 year old dog and for 13 years she has eaten one time a day with 1 or 2 small milk bones. she eats a small amount of dry food and meat. we leave her food out all day and she leaves some of it in the bowl. She has been doing this for years, and we don't give her large portions. She doesn't eat just because it is in front of her, as you stated dogs would.

Some civilizations used meat in their diets, but many ancient civilizations thrived on meatless and nearly meatless diets. These civilizations include the incas, who ate mainly potatos, quinoa and maize, with some bugs thrown in for protein, and vegetables/fruits.

You stated that meat was the only thing that could be preserved because it could be dried. The incas actually discovered a primitive freeze drying technique that they use on potatos and other crops to last for periods of up to one year. Also, fruits can easily be dried by the sun to create things like raisins, prunes, craisins and any other dried fruit imaginable.

the aztecs ate some meat, but very rarely, and it was even less likely unless the person was in a position of leadership and power. The average person ate mainly maize (corn), tortillas, beans, vegetables, fruits and some bugs.

Ancient asian cultures relied mainly on rice, vegetables and fish, and some religions within these cultures, like hindus, buddhists and jains advocate a "non cruel" diet of no meat and sometimes no animal products at all.

These cultures, interestingly enough, made language, medical, and scientific break-throughs and shaped what our world is like today. the mayans discovered the concept of ZERO, made a very accurate and lengthy calendar, and the incans did brain surgery.

These civilizations THRIVED on a diet based on grains.

Perhaps one of the reasons ancient cultures ate less often than many people do today is the time they spent at work (doing physical labor instead of sitting at a desk), the access to food, and the lack of means to afford food.

If you can be full on a balanced diet by eating only twice a day, that's fine but it certainly isn't abnormal to eat frequently, especially when you are eating easily digestable foods like fruits and vegetables.

JEM0622 Posts: 5,500
6/4/09 12:24 P

The following article shows that you can go either way www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?ar
ticlekey=56254
but that one thing is for certain...never skip breakfast.

I think we all have to decide what is best. I have three meals a day and have a snack 2-3 hrs after each meal. My snacks are, on average, about 150 calories. This approach works for me because I am not hungry at all, and I am not tempted to eat things that would derail my progress.

~julie

CINDYSUE48 Posts: 3,264
6/4/09 12:14 P

Humans are considered omnivores as we can survive and thrive on both animal and plant foods. BUT...there are certain things, like some vitamins that are more easily obtained by eating animals. Vitamin D, for example can be obtained from plants (D2) or animals (D3), but the animal sources are more bio-available, meaning it is easier to absorb and use.

Cats and dogs are actually considered carnivores, especially cats, which are considered "true" carnivores.

Curious....look at a cat or dog in the wild and if food is plentiful they will eat only meat and they will eat once a day or less. But, bring them into a home and feed them dry food (which contains lots of carbohydrates and less fat/protein) and they will likely want to eat all day. Many dog and cat owners cannot leave food out all the time as their pets will eat almost constantly and gain too much weight. And....since we've been feeding our pets these "healthy" pet foods (which contain all kinds of veggies and grains) there is an increased incidence of heart disease and diabetes in pets!

Primates are another animal that is surprisingly omnivorous....they actually get a lot of animal protein in the wild as they eat bugs and grubs that come with their vegetation. And maybe we evolved from "primate" to "human" when we increased our animal protein intake! Many anthropologist believe this.

For hundreds of thousands of years humans lived on mostly meat diets....it's only been a few thousand years that we've become so dependent on vegetation. And look at early man! Yes, I am sure that early man took advantage of summer fruits, honey, etc when they could be found....but most were not preservable, unlike meat and fat, which could be dried to preserve. They also, according to anthropologists, gained as much weight as possible in the summer months to get them through the leaner winters!

If people feel better eating frequent small meals, great. I am just saying that I don't consider it "normal" for us to be hungry 2-3 hours after eating!

JENNIFAY3 Posts: 343
6/4/09 11:16 A

I disagree. I think it is normal to get hungry every few hours for many many animals, including humans. Animals like dogs, wolves and lions dont get hungry more than maybe once or twice per day because they are generally carnivores. They are built differently than humans.

Looking at animals like birds, cows, and primates, they eat more often throughout the day than carnivorous animals.

I feel healthier and more energized (and less bloated) when i eat smaller meals throughout the day. I don't think it takes time out of my day to eat a granola bar or a bag of carrot sticks while I'm at work. Having a small snack does not interupt your day,and since many of us don't work in factories or on farms, we have the ability to energize our body on a more constant level throughout the day, thereby avoiding plummets in blood sugar, energy and alertness.

I eat breakfast at 7am
morning snack at 10am
lunch at 1230 pm
afternoon snack at 3pm
dinner anywhere from 6-8 pm
and a final snack around 9 pm after my workout.

CINDYSUE48 Posts: 3,264
6/4/09 10:49 A

I've never felt it was normal to get hungry every few hours. When I was a kid (I'm 55 now) we had breakfast by 7:30 (we ate before getting dressed, and school was 30 min ride), lunch at noon and dinner at 6. On occasion we'd have a snack after school, but as often as not we didn't. I don't ever remember being hungry!

Of course breakfast was fruit and eggs, lunch was a meat sandwich with fruit, and dinner was meat and veggies. Much more protein and fat than is considered acceptable today! We ran around a lot and were busy most of our days....either playing or studying/doing homework (2-3 hrs a night by grade 4 or 5!!!) and house chores.

If you look at our ancestors, does it really make sense that they would stop what they were doing and eat every few hours? Paleo man sure didn't....and I find it hard to believe farmers and factory workers did!

I feel that this is a thoroughly modern concept and it's due to the pushing of more and more carbohydrates and less and less fat and protein.

Today, after trying for years to stick with a low fat food plan, I follow a low carb plan. I eat 3 meals a day and I'm rarely hungry....in fact I often forget about mealtimes unless I look at the clock or someone mentions it! At work I was always refusing lunch dates because people wanted to eat too early!!

My meals are large and they are "dangerously" high is fat and protein, but my docs have all approved (and even recommended) and I've seen some great changes. Lower weight, lower BP, improved blood lipids and blood sugars. I also sleep better and generally feel better.

JEM0622 Posts: 5,500
6/4/09 10:44 A

I eat every 2 hrs all day (until about 6 or 7p). My snacks between meals average 150 calories. Prevents hunger, keeps my furnace burning, and I don't get cranky or crave the stuff I shouldn't reach for.

~julie

PAULABALLENTINE Posts: 288
6/4/09 10:32 A

getting hungry every few hours is normal, especially if you're exercising a lot. Keep healthy snacks like fruit on hand...and drink lots of water and tea to keep full, hydrated and/or caffeinated

KALORIE-KILLAH SparkPoints: (20,313)
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6/4/09 10:20 A

Do you drink any liquids after your breakfast? Why not try a glass or two of water, coffee, or tea? I, too, have a morning snack about 3 hours after breakfast (and again about 3 hours after lunch) because I love food and get hungry around that time, and it also keeps my metabolism going.

Also, try investing in some ground flax meal. It's full of fiber and just adding a tablespoon or two to oatmeal, cereal, yogurt, etc. adds good nutrition. Fiber keeps you fuller longer so it usually helps me out when it comes to satiety.

VWOLF64725 SparkPoints: (0)
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6/4/09 10:19 A

Protein baby! I have switched to having a protein shake for breakfast every morning and sometimes I'm not even hungry for a snack before lunch. I use a pea protein b/c I don't like dairy products (whey is a dairy product) and I mix it with almond milk and ocassionally some fruit. It's not always the yummiest thing first thing in the AM but it gets the job done. Some people drink coffee in the morning, I drink protein. I used to just eat fruit for breakfast and by 9am I would be starving and ready to sabotage my diet for the day.

ILOST150POUNDS Posts: 1,662
6/4/09 10:09 A

I always eat a few hours after breakfast, even with maintaining my weight now. Remember too, that when you start to cut back on your food intake you will be hungry sometimes. That's okay - it's just your body's signal that things are working like they should. Pick something healthy to eat when true hunger strikes and you will continue to see progress as you journey towards your goal.

TUFFY2007 Posts: 38
6/4/09 10:06 A

good answers!! made me feel a whole lot better emoticon

HEYLIZ Posts: 356
6/4/09 7:41 A

I always have a mid-morning snack about 3 hours after breakfast. Even if you have to reduce your breakfast calories a bit, I think including the snack in your plan really helps fight hunger.

TIPPIMITCHELL Posts: 2,096
6/4/09 7:09 A

Maybe you need more protein than is in the milk. I add whey protein powder (one scoop) to my oatmeal, or even to yogurt, to help me stay fuller longer.

Thanks to others who've posted so far!

TAMIKO Posts: 380
6/4/09 6:55 A

What time do you get up? What time do you eat breakfast? What time do you have lunch??

In the past, I've found that if I eat as soon as I get up, I'm hungry sooner, but if I wait about an hour after I rise, and eat, I stay fuller longer. Im not sure of the science behind this LOL.

I wake up at about 5:30/6:00 and eat breakfast around 7:30 (Oatmeal + milk + oj). I have lunch at around 11:30.

Maybe try moving the time you have breakfast around? Or split up your breakfast? Sometimes I'll have a banana around 10 am.

Also - do you drink coffee? I rarely drink coffee, but when I do drink coffee with my breakfast, I find I get hungrier sooner. Maybe it's in my head, but maybe it's worth it to look into it more.



RUSTEDJULE Posts: 220
6/4/09 6:27 A

Ya, I agree... add some eggs. I used to eat cereal or oatmeal for breakfast and have ZERO energy all morning. Once I added an one egg and two egg whites it made all the difference. Give it a shot. Good luck

NOME__ SparkPoints: (13,790)
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6/4/09 4:37 A

If you're new to eating less then it's natural for your body to miss the old ways - you might find the hunger lessens after a few weeks. I did.

You could try a higher-protein breakfast by eating eggs, meat or fish, having greek yogurt with your oatmeal, or trying quinoa porridge instead.

Or you could try drinking fennel tea - it can help curb the appetite and certainly helps me out sometimes when I still feel hungry after meals.

HYACINTHE_PAX SparkPoints: (0)
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6/4/09 2:31 A

You could try adding yoghurt to it for some protein - i cut up an apple and cook it with the oats then add a tablespoon or two of greek yoghurt on top, keeps me going till lunch and is really yummy. Otherwise you could add linseed or flax or perhaps some trail mix. Also experiment with different nuts and fruit. Peanut butter might also be worth a try.

If that fails, just factor in a snack 2 hours later!

TRYINGTOLOVEME Posts: 306
6/4/09 12:41 A

I have the same problem. What I do is eat plain oatmeal for brekafast (1/2 cup dry oats cooked with 1.5 cups water) and then i save the calories from the toppings to eat a snack at 1030 am - usually a piece of fruit. Then im good to go until lunch!

CINDYSUE48 Posts: 3,264
6/4/09 12:40 A

In my opinion it is too many carbohydrates without enough protein and fat!!

I follow a low carb diet and haven't had cereals in several years. The amount of carb you have in one meal is more than I have in an entire day!

Carbs are processed into glucose, which causes your blood sugar to rise, which causes insulin release. If you are sensitive/resistant your blood sugar can be going up too fast and then too much insulin is released to take care of it. With too much insulin the result is a low blood sugar which causes hunger and cravings.

One of the reasons I decided to try low carb was because I simply could not stick to a low fat diet! I'd eat every 2 1/2 - 3hrs and still be hungry! There were times I would be planning my next meal while I was still eating! If anyone brought anything tasty near me I'd have a heck of a time resisting it.....not so much because I wanted it but because I always felt I was starving!!

Try this. In the morning have 1-2 eggs (whole, not just whites) along with an ounce of cheese, maybe some bacon or other meat...and maybe 1 slice of whole grain toast with butter. See how long you feel full. Then have your typical breakfast and see how long you feel full. There's a pretty good chance you'll feel full longer with the eggs than the cereal

CHKYKLS Posts: 36
6/4/09 12:33 A

i know what you mean girls, and i have the same deal. i think its normal to be hungry after a couple of hours. remember the smaller portions the more often you have to eat. add some fruit to your breakfast or a lean meat. cereal is bad for me im hungry almost instantly after eating it. a breakfast sandwich with turkey bacon egg and slice of cheese on whole wheat bread or wrapped up in a grain tortilla is always a good way to go for me.

best wishes.
and one packadge of oatmeal isnt going to keep you full for long. add something to it.

Edited by: CHKYKLS at: 6/4/2009 (00:34)
TUFFY2007 Posts: 38
6/4/09 12:20 A

good question, Im having the same problem. It seems like I can never stay full. I think its all in my head though. Im used to eating a whole lot more than I have been.

MSNELL001 Posts: 1
6/4/09 12:18 A

I eat a bowl of oatmeal made with skim milk to which I add chopped fresh fruit and walnuts, so why am I hungry 2 hours later??

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