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SUECHRIS50 SparkPoints: (57,841)
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4/29/11 9:49 P

everyone has a right to believe or not!I dont discuss religion to anyone.

BANKER-CHUCK Posts: 5,825
4/29/11 9:44 P

REDSHOES2011 Those stories are funny.


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ANINHA12 SparkPoints: (9,878)
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4/29/11 6:15 P

nice topic, by the way :D


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4/29/11 4:14 P

I PRAY THAT YOU WILL FIND THE RIGHT PATH.

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4/29/11 3:01 P

It def was not an appropriate way to bring up the discussion. Sorry a so called friend made such a rude comment to you. Ignore it and don't feed into it. You know GOD so you know better.

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4/29/11 2:50 P

Oh wow, it sounds like I would get along with the danes famously. Last night I told the joke "I thought Princess Di was a command". I got the stare down. Whut? Too soon?

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REDSHOES2011 SparkPoints: (35,936)
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4/29/11 1:33 P

I live in denmark, danes fire off black humour all the time.. Danes are one of the races of people whom and fire off really naughty jokes with a poker face..

A my mother in laws religious resthome a elderly man died, the undertakers turn up all polite and serious.. The wife of the deceased asks them in for a cup of coffee- but we came to collect... Yeah yeah, but he can wait thats the most quiet he has been in all 50 years we have been married..

The face on the undertakes was pure gold..
emoticon emoticon They had to take coffee, one of the undertakers asked the resthome manager if she was "dement"- nope for once in her life in a good mood lol..

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Another time I helped a tired resthome helper catch a dement man racing off from her in a wheel chair at the local resthome in my villiage.. I heard her yell catch him please! He won't be able to find his way home.. The old guy said to me you should have let the old bat run efter me, she needs the exercise lol..
I replied that's not a nice thing to say, I am a resthome helper in the city.. Oh god you people gang up on us oldies. But your a cuter model lol..
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LUANN_IN_PA Posts: 16,780
4/29/11 8:04 A

"Recently a friend came up to me and said "I heard you found god, where was he hiding?" "

It's a joke... and a very old one at that!

Although, when I was a kid, it went more like...

You found God? I didn't know HE was missing!

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4/29/11 7:58 A

We live in a world with a plethora of spiritual beliefs one cannot assume what one believes nor one has the right to impose, degrade, and trivialize one spiritual tree. Some are insensitive, obtuse, and just plumb ignorant but it doesn't take anything away from you unless you let it. TOLERANCE is the key. You just learn to agree to disagree because when it is said and done we are all human no better no worse. LOVE is universal regardless what you believe, it transcends all and if one can stop getting caught up with what we think or what it should be and let your love for all then it shouldn't matter if I am a Buddhist, Christian, Hindu and etc. Whether some of us want to believe it ir not we are all connected with differences and that to me is what makes this world unique and special.

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4/29/11 2:12 A

ANINHA12, that is so true. It seems that the more religious a person is in america. The more intolerant he or she is. The pastor of a church right here in Arizona where I lived encourage his church to go to caulifornia to protest Elizabeth Taylor's funeral based on the fact that she was friends with Micheal Jackson and donated lots of money to research the prevention of aids. kind of makes you wonder doesn't it.

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4/29/11 1:10 A

its ironic, cause the ones that say that praise God and blabla, are usually the ones that are not tolerant to others, etc. i am brazilian, and in big cities in Brazil, we live religion in a different way. we dont attend church very often, and dont follow exactly any instituted religion, but most people do believe in God. and when I lived in Texas for 1 year, I was offended all the time, cause I attented church with my host family. They even said people in Brazil didnt have any religion and didnt know God. Come on .... :S

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4/28/11 11:34 P

We live in a world with a plethora of spiritual beliefs one cannot assume what one believes nor one has the right to impose, degrade, and trivialize one spiritual tree. Some are insensitive, obtuse, and just plumb ignorant but it doesn't take anything away from you unless you let it. TOLERANCE is the key. You just learn to agree to disagree because when it is said and done we are all human no better no worse. LOVE is universal regardless what you believe, it transcends all and if one can stop getting caught up with what we think or what it should be and let your love for all then it shouldn't matter if I am a Buddhist, Christian, Hindu and etc. Whether some of us want to believe it ir not we are all connected with differences and that to me is what makes this world unique and special.

SHERRY9300 Posts: 115
4/28/11 11:25 P

As long as you are certain and strong about what you believe, what someone says should not bother you. I don't think your issue is, in reality, the religion or lack thereof, but that someone could be that insensitive. They probably WERE just kidding.

SOFT_VAL67 Posts: 2,498
4/28/11 10:32 P

to banker chuck, i can respect your feelings.
but there are also ppl who believe their religion helps them in this area of their life as well.
there are prayer groups that are dedicated to praying for inner strength and self control over food.
as with any other vice.
i say. if this is what helps those ppl get out harmful thoughts or feelings, better to release them here where they might find some opinions than to bottle them up inside.

SOFT_VAL67 Posts: 2,498
4/28/11 10:29 P

this takes place on both sides of the argument. maybe it is someones way of showing you their sense of humor, because they thought you were of the same mindset, and would think it was funny.
i would probably have said something like, god never hides, you can see his work in the flowers, the grass and the sky.
you can feel his power on the wind and his gentleness on the breeze.
i consider myself more spiritual than religious.
personally, i believe "organized religion" is what lead us astray in our true beliefs.
i say, to thine own self and to thine own god be true.

BANKER-CHUCK Posts: 5,825
4/28/11 10:28 P

See what I mean! Religion and politics have no place in a Website dedicated to good nutrition and fitness. All I am interested in from anyone is how to find ways to hit my goals of nutrition and fitness lifestyle.

Chuck

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**Maintain** "OR" set new Goal! 170's maybe??
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4/28/11 10:18 P

We live in a world with a plethora of spiritual beliefs one cannot assume what one believes nor one has the right to impose, degrade, and trivialize one spiritual tree. Some are insensitive, obtuse, and just plumb ignorant but it doesn't take anything away from you unless you let it. TOLERANCE is the key. You just learn to agree to disagree because when it is said and done we are all human no better no worse. LOVE is universal regardless what you believe, it transcends all and if one can stop getting caught up with what we think or what it should be and let your love for all then it shouldn't matter if I am a Buddhist, Christian, Hindu and etc. Whether some of us want to believe it ir not we are all connected with differences and that to me is what makes this world unique and special.

PEDAL-PUSHER Posts: 6,501
4/19/11 10:25 A

I have seen to much hypocrisy in churches to want to be affiliated with one, but that does not mean that all churches are bad, nor does it mean that I do not believe in God. I consider myself spiritual rather than religious, and my real friends accept that. I know some who look down upon me because I do not attend church, and I know some who try to convert me. They are all told that I am at peace with myself, and one does not need to go into a specific building to talk to God. Everybody has an opinion, none are wrong, only differeant.

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4/19/11 2:32 A

Once pandoras box is opened it is out in the open.

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4/19/11 2:18 A

"general, fun discussion about a variety of topics" just sayin'...

BANKER-CHUCK Posts: 5,825
4/19/11 1:54 A

You have started a potentially volatile subject. I have seen it to many times. It has nothing to do with nutrition and fitness.
I do not believe religion and politics should be brought into a forum of this nature. There are teams on the Website for this subject.

Chuck

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4/19/11 1:52 A

Obviously the person didn't mean to offend you. You should take it as it was meant to be...a joke. It is also a good opportunity to witness as they were the one to bring it up...not you. I say go ahead...tell 'em where God was...and is!

FITGLAMGIRL Posts: 2,042
4/19/11 1:32 A

Well religion can be a tough subject. I think it comes down to passion. When you are very passionate about a subject or in this case God or not God, you want to share that passion with others so you could come across as being rude or having unwanted comments. When in fact it probably stems from a passion of wanting to share. This is when we need to be extra cautious to not come across as pushing our own beliefs on others.

That is why we need to listen carefully and know when it is ok to share or not.



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4/19/11 1:13 A

UGH doesn't is suck? I believe in respecting EVERYONE'S beliefs.

My religious believes only cover my belief in god other then that nothing. And I would never push any kind of belief on anyone.

My 2 best friends are Jehovah Witness and Islamic, and our separate beliefs never negatively effect our friendships.




RAZZLEBERRIES Posts: 268
4/19/11 1:09 A

Well, actually, I have had several religious people question my lack of belief in God. In fact, go read my thread about OA and God. Someone had the balls to tell me that "with God all things are possible." On a thread where I'm asking for a NON-RELIGOUS alternative to OA.

Goes both ways.

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4/19/11 1:00 A

I grew up in NY close to the city. We have MANY atheist people, and almost ALL of my friends are atheist.
I am not. But I am also not religious, I believe in god, but don't follow any specific religions. I respect God and Jesus.
I do not attend church, and never speak about it to my friends, but if asked if I believe I won't deny it.
Whats wrong with that?

Recently a friend came up to me and said "I heard you found god, where was he hiding?" And I was stunned, and offended. I would NEVER go up to my atheist friends and say "So how is the lack of faith going for you"
Once the friend realized I was hurt they apologized and said they meant it jokingly, but still..
Why are people so insensitive?




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