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GLITTERFAIRY77 Posts: 8,023
2/1/13 7:24 A

I'm sorry that I took what you said the wrong way, TACB. I hate that you can't infer tone in written type. Jesus DID die for all our sins, but we still have to admit to them.

NAUSIKAA Posts: 4,848
2/1/13 3:48 A

CHRISTINASP - my post and thoughts are the ones you're laughing at.

What I mean is that eating is those things I said, period -- but then obviously people attach all sorts of other things to it which can hurt their chances of staying at a healthy weight. Be reducing food to "energy" instead of "emotional/spiritual/ a big part of my life" it becomes a lot easier to manage one's weight in my opinion.

I am not claiming that there is no emotional side to eating. Just that if we make a little effort not to attach so much emotional stuff to it, we would be better off. I'm on SP because I was obese my whole life -- because I ate too much and the wrong things. I lost 100 lbs because I started eating a lot less and the right things. It wasn't an emotional decision, or an emotional process. In the past, when I had made it an emotional process, I always had problems with my progress and ended up gaining it all back plus more. So in my experience, separating food/eating from emotions can be very helpful to people who struggle with their weight.

The only part of your entire body that treats food ANY differently from what I said (chewing, swallowing, digesting, excreting) is your brain. It's all in your head. Which means it's in your power to change it, if you want to.

But go ahead and laugh at other people's posts if you like. Your statistic about Americans -- well I don't live in the US but I would guess it has to do with your toxic food environment and the fact that a lot of the food that's available there is of low nutritional value and high in calories; most people have cars and drive a lot rather than walking; and a lot of people have sedentary (office-type) jobs.

TACDGB Posts: 6,136
2/1/13 12:14 A

hate to tell ya but I am not blaming God for anything. I just believe that over eating for emotional reasons is not a sin..........God created us with emotions... We do the best we can. Didn't Jesus die for all of our sins......?

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1/31/13 4:00 P

I consider overeating spiritual if it slows you down from being all you can be for the Lord's will for your life.

CHRISTINASP Posts: 1,856
1/31/13 12:01 P

Someone said "Eating is picking up an edible object, sticking it in your mouth, chewing it, swallowing it, digesting it, and excreting it. The End."

LOL So if this is right we could all just have energy drinks or power bars and never have a weight problem. Or tubefeed ourselves. You would never go to a restaurant, never pick brand or taste A over taste / brand B, etcetera etcetera. I can just see you tell a baby that is at it's mother's breast 'this is just a thing that you stick in your mouth'. LOLOLOL.
Personally I feel we cannot ignore the WHY we stick the stuff in our mouth. Or how we feel about it. Or associations that we have with certain types of food, and so on.

"Just eat healthy food in the amounts that your body needs."
I just did a quick search on internet. Found this: "63.1% of adults in the U.S. were either overweight or obese in 2009."
If it were that easy, why then is the majority of people in the US overweight? And why does a site like Sparkpeople have so many members?
Please tell me - I really want to know! :)

To answer to the original question: I think it's different for everyone. There are many aspects to eating, to me at least.
I wonder why your pastor said that overeating is a spiritual issue.
I'm not a Christian. But I can imagine that if a person feels totally safe in God's 'hand' or loved by God, they don't have 'emotional drives' perhaps that drive them to seek 'comfort' in food. The comfort and reassurance might then be found in thinking about God or feeling God near instead of in chips or chocolate. But that's just my personal thought.

Edited by: CHRISTINASP at: 1/31/2013 (12:12)
CHUNKIMAMA SparkPoints: (2,944)
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1/31/13 11:33 A

Gluttony is a sin... and that used to be one of my main ones. And now I am trying to change that!

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1/31/13 11:29 A

I think of it as a spiritual issue in that any time I try to fill the void, or fix my problems, on an external level with food, booze, too much tv, over dependence on others, etc I am turning to the wrong solutions. Those external bandages may bring me pleasure but it is fleeting. Developing my spiritual fitness and deepening my faith in God brings me peace and serenity. Food is what I eat. It is not what heals me on a soul level. If I am eating because of any reason but hunger I need to examine what I am longing for.

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1/31/13 11:23 A

I don't see this as a spiritual issue at all. I am totally responsible for my actions.

GLITTERFAIRY77 Posts: 8,023
1/31/13 11:13 A

My kitchen looks awesome when I'm really p*ssed off. LMBO! Yesterday, it was my room that got tidied.

NAUSIKAA Posts: 4,848
1/31/13 10:58 A

Glitterfairy, that's a really good one to have! Any productive outlet is better than eating emotions. I actually went through a period of about a year when I would knit when I was upset or stressed. It was one of the only times that I lost weight while going through stress. Occupying my hands with knitting needles instead of potato chips worked well for me!

GLITTERFAIRY77 Posts: 8,023
1/31/13 10:53 A

I turn to angry cleaning,fairly often. :)

NAUSIKAA Posts: 4,848
1/31/13 10:51 A

It sounds like you have the knowledge and the motivation so I would say you're on the right track! I may sound like a broken record here, but it can be very empowering to de-glorify food and return it to its proper place as a source of energy for life. Food is not going to turn into love. Food is not going to turn into success. Food is not going to turn into comfort. Food is going to turn into poop.

I think that tracking in the food tracker is a really good route to doing this, by the way. When you start to examine your food from the perspective of "here is a list of nutrients and vitamins and here is a list of numbers in grams and milligrams" you can retrain your brain to view "eating" as the process of amassing a bunch of stuff with different properties to get the numbers to come out right by the end of the day. It still tastes just as good, don't worry!

It's always good to deal with the emotional issues. Or beat them down with exercise, instead of food. I do that when I'm not ready to deal with emotions.

GLITTERFAIRY77 Posts: 8,023
1/31/13 10:51 A

I'm right there with you. Feel free to check out some of my blogs on the subject. The fact that you're taking steps in the right direction is a huge deal, too. Progress...

1/31/13 10:50 A

Overeating is a spiritual issue in that it is a way to distance from the core of the self. It is a form of self medicating. Now that we are in 2013 the objective is to do our inner work and expose to the light what we bury with food. Anyways, this is how I see it. : )

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1/31/13 10:40 A

Food was more of a comforter for me and I let it get out of control. I have been a yo-yo dieter most of my life and now I have health issues to where I need to overcome my overeating habits to lose weight and be health. But I am discovering I have to break it down into small steps instead of all at once and it's not easy. I know what I need to eat and what I need to eat less of. Discovering that I have to deal with the emotional issues instead of gorging myself which makes me feel like crap in the end.

GLITTERFAIRY77 Posts: 8,023
1/31/13 7:25 A

It's not so much the food having power-it's the action of the eating. I get what you're saying though.

OP-One of the fruits of the spirit is "self-control"...If we allow ourselves to be out of control when it comes to ANYTHING, it is a fruit that we need to develop. I have issues with self-control when it comes to my temper. I totally understand that. Pobody's nerfect...which is why I believe we need God's grace, and that we need to seek His help when dealing with whatever issue it is that we have. Just because He accepts us just as we are, does not mean that He wants us to remain where we are. He wants us to be better, just as we should want to be better.

Edited by: GLITTERFAIRY77 at: 1/31/2013 (10:22)
NAUSIKAA Posts: 4,848
1/31/13 7:06 A

The danger with calling it a "spiritual issue" is that you blow up "eating" into some kind of emotionally wrought experience. It's not. Eating is picking up an edible object, sticking it in your mouth, chewing it, swallowing it, digesting it, and excreting it. The End. The more you try to make it about something that someone did to you or something that is missing from your life or something that you feel -- the more chances you give yourself to eat something that isn't what your body needs. Just eat healthy food in the amounts that your body needs.

(I say this as someone who used to think I was eating for all kinds of emotional reasons when in fact, what I was doing was chewing and swallowing food and I needed to be doing less of it.)

Don't give food/eating some kind of weird power over you. It's just plant and animal matter.

GLITTERFAIRY77 Posts: 8,023
1/31/13 7:00 A

Both BlueNose and the OP are right. Still, I get a little prickly when someone blames God for the crappy choices that people made.

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1/31/13 6:55 A

I really don't see it as a spiritual issue but a medical issue.....I am responsible for my own body and what goes into it but that is not to say that anyone else's beliefs are wrong or incorrect. Everyone deals with weight loss issue in a manner that works for him. No one has the definitive answer!

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1/31/13 6:34 A

Maybe, overeating means different things to people in different areas of their lives.

GLITTERFAIRY77 Posts: 8,023
1/31/13 6:24 A

You can't blame/be mad at God for your parents making bad choices. He gives us a free will and adults are responsible for the well-being of their children, and others. They knew what was right, and chose to go the opposite way. That's evil. I am really sorry that happened to you, but you cannot blame God for that.
As for the rotten marriage-you chose the guy you married. The fact that he was a compete d*ck was his fault, not God's.
When people exhibit evil, don't look at God and ask Him why. Look at the person making the choice and ask them.
Furthermore, WE are responsible for the choices that we make, of what goes into our bodies, no matter what kind of past we had.
The abuse I suffered when I was four wasn't God's fault, nor was the fact that I tried to squash those feelings with candy and crap through my childhood. I don't blame God for letting my Dad die in 2011. My father didn't take care of himself. He ate cookies, cake, ice cream, fast food in spite of diabetes didn't exercise, didn't drink plain water, took medicine rather than trying to fix himself...That was HIS fault, his choice. He died a slow death. He knew how to fix the problem, especially as an RN, but he totally went the opposite way with that.
I don't blame God for the choices I made going grocery shopping, for the amount of food that I ate, for me being inactive, for me being bulimic...That was alllll MEEEE. That was my choice. I chose to abuse my body with food and inactivity.
Blaming God for the evil choices that mankind makes is like blaming the barber for people having unkempt hair.

Edited by: GLITTERFAIRY77 at: 1/31/2013 (06:34)
TACDGB Posts: 6,136
1/30/13 11:14 P

I ate from the pain of an abusive childhood and a rotten marriage so how is that a spiritual issue..........? God allowed my bad childhood........

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1/30/13 9:30 P

For me it is a spiritual issue. To me health is a blessing. So to overeat processed junk is kind of spitting on that blessing I was given. Everything is connected as far as I am concerned, body, mind, and spirit. So, good or bad, you can't change one without it affecting the others.

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1/30/13 6:40 P

I didn't know that overeating was a spiritual issue.

GLITTERFAIRY77 Posts: 8,023
1/30/13 2:24 P

Spark gives a lot of great tools so that we can learn that, Deirdre. Even though they don't offer the spiritual aspect (though there are some teams), when you set up your page and your goals, you are given a calorie range and a fitness goal.

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1/30/13 2:04 P

How do you balance energy consumed with energy expended?

GLITTERFAIRY77 Posts: 8,023
1/30/13 2:01 P

Gluttony is a sin. That is living to eat instead of eating to live. Food is meant to be enjoyed, but we are also responsible for the temple that God has entrusted to us.
If it is something you continue to struggle with, and feel that it very well could be a spiritual stronghold(turning to food when emotional instead of turning to God for comfort-which I still struggle with), check out
It may be helpful.

NAUSIKAA Posts: 4,848
1/30/13 1:03 P

I don't see it as a spiritual issue at all. I think it's an issue of balancing energy consumed with energy expended. The more we complicate this with emotions and excuses and so on, the important parts (eating moderately and exercising) seem to get pushed aside. A clear-eyed view is necessary to be successful in my opinion. If your diet isn't perfect, perfect it.

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1/30/13 12:50 P

I never thought of it that way, but you are right. I overate to make myself feel better, but that never happened. Thanks!

DIDS70 Posts: 5,368
1/30/13 12:38 P

I look at it as God has given me the gift of life. If I overeat, i am throwing that gift back in his face and saying that I don't appreciate what He has given me. Honoring my body by giving it amazing food and taking care of through exercise and being one with it shows that i am thankful for my body. He created my body to be self healing as long as i take care of it. My ultimate goal is to achieve 100% function through body, mind, and spirit.

Who am I to throw this gift back at God?

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1/30/13 12:12 P

I did not know it was a spiritual issue until my pastor said it was. I overate to make myself feel better but that did not happen too long. So, I have been requestioning why I overeat and so forth.

Edited by: DEIDREALLEN at: 1/30/2013 (12:52)
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