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CMCOLE
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4/7/13 9:18 A

It is becoming more and more important to read the ingredients on the labels, and not just the purported 'nutritional' information



NAUSIKAA
Posts: 4,848
4/7/13 4:00 A

I used to be able to find 100% sheep's milk yogurt in the US at an independent grocer so it is available but may not be so easy to find -- Whole Foods might have it. I think the farm where it came from was in upstate New York. It tasted different from Greek sheep's yogurt but it was still good.



CHIGIRL410
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4/6/13 7:29 P

I was just in Greece this winter for work, and the yogurt was amazing. That said, the US has some good yogurt too. Plain Dannon (full fat) and an Indian brand Desi Natural Dahi (full fat) are just plain cultured milk, which is what the Greek yogurt is. If you want it thicker, you can strain it. The yogurt in Greece was tangier, and some came in pottery crocks or glass jars, and some was made with sheep's milk, and I've never seen anything like that in the US.

My Ukrainian colleague said that when she was in the US, she had to buy organic dairy, because she didn't like the taste of regular dairy products. The organic tasted more like she was used to.





ZENANDNOW
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4/6/13 5:28 P

@CALLMECARRIE: I love almonds, and eat them almost daily too! emoticon I currently eat the Nice! (a Walgreens brand) honey-roasted almonds. One serving contains 170 calories and is one of the best nuts that a person can eat, providing a host of healthful benefits.

Sometimes people will ask me how I'm losing weight. Like you...I eat exercise almost daily, eat fruits emoticon (and some veggies but not many, as I'm not a veggie fan), and plenty of proteins (especially meats). emoticon And Sonic drive-ins has just added iced diet green tea w/Spenda to the menu, so I am drinking that regularly as well. I love my iced tea! emoticon



CALLMECARRIE
Posts: 1,357
4/6/13 3:40 P

Everyone wants a magic bullet. People ask my how I'm losing my weight, and if I tell them I'm walking an hour a day and eating a lot of fruits and vegetables and lean protein, their eyes glaze over. If I say I drink a lot of green tea and eat a lot of almonds (which I do, just because I like them) they perk right up.



DIETITIANBECKY
Posts: 26,011
4/6/13 2:23 P

I cringe when I get a request to talk about "super foods"---especially when it is someone wanting a list of the top 10, etc. Do people really think that there are only a few super foods on this planet. We are filled with super food possibilities. Here is the Sparkpeople listing of common super foods....let me know if it needs an addition.

www.sparkpeople.com/resource/nutrition_art
icles.asp?id=307


Dietitian Becky



BUNNYKICKS
Posts: 2,175
4/6/13 1:57 P

I know... oh my gosh did it sound like i REALLY thought "super foods" and "dr oz" are...

No! No!!!! It was sarcasm, I swear!!!!! My link to Dr. Oz was my "proof" that the idea is stupid!

Just Say No To Dr. Oz!!!!!



LILLIPUTIANNA
Posts: 1,036
4/6/13 1:54 P

"Pomegranate is a SUPER FOOD! With DISEASE FIGHTING PROPERTIES!"

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Super foods! Gah! The idea is so absurd! I hate the phrase "super food!"

BUNNYKICKS, is that a link to a Doctor Oz website?! Oh gawd! He's a complete quack. It seems like every other week he's promoting some quackery or another. Snake oil is alive and well, and being sold on the internet!



BUNNYKICKS
Posts: 2,175
4/6/13 1:22 P

REAL pomegranate in yogurt is actually very good. I eat yogurt (plain only - doesn't have to say "greek" on the label but it can't have gelatin in the ingredients or blechhh) almost every day, and over the winter we get a lot of imported pomegranates here... was putting a quarter cup of arils into my "muesli" along with diced apple and oats, and YUM.

I dislike yogurts that come pre-mixed with fruit, which is invariably some jammy sludge at the bottom of the container, and/or is way too sweet. It's not that hard to mix fruit into plain, to taste.

And i don't think i'll ever be interested in consuming it as a powder blended into my cold breakfast cereal!!



NAUSIKAA
Posts: 4,848
4/6/13 1:11 P

The humble pomegranate can save us all! We had a couple pomegranate trees in our yard (we moved 2 years ago and sadly there are none at our new house) so I had a LOT of pomegranate when we lived there -- I guess I am immortal now! :) Strangely it never occurred to me to put my Greek pomegranate in my Greek yogurt lol!!



BUNNYKICKS
Posts: 2,175
4/6/13 1:07 P

Yes well that is because Pomegranate is a SUPER FOOD! With DISEASE FIGHTING PROPERTIES! Soooo now we toss a little pomegranate into everything because two drops of pomegranate juice negates all fat, refined sugar, preservatives and incorrect portion sizes, making literally ANY food a cancer-fighting miracle!

Or.... so i've been told ;)

(by Dr. Oz... the link to whom I am removing in order to protect the innocent from his quackery!)

Just say no to the Dr. Oz Show!

Edited by: BUNNYKICKS at: 4/6/2013 (13:58)


NAUSIKAA
Posts: 4,848
4/6/13 1:04 P

BUNNYKICKS your post made me emoticon

What will they think of next?

I find it mildly amusing that there are far, far more flavors of Greek yogurt sold in the US than in Greece. We only really have plain here, and a FEW (like 2 or 3) others that no one buys. I saw online that you can get Greek yogurt with like apple and pomegranate or something like that in the US - wow! None of that is sold here -- even if it is made here, they don't let us have any!! emoticon



BUNNYKICKS
Posts: 2,175
4/6/13 1:01 P

Zen, I just googled "Honey Bunches of BS" and voila! Yeah, I could not find the actual full-length article online just yet, but there are a few reviews



NAUSIKAA
Posts: 4,848
4/6/13 1:01 P

I agree with you CALLMECARRIE! It's like the "fat free" label on candy (that's 100% sugar) and the "zero carbs" label on meat -- come on!

However, I suppose it's a good reminder that if you put cereal on (actual) yogurt (of whatever nationality LOL), it's really tasty! :) I prefer cereal with yogurt rather than with milk.



BUNNYKICKS
Posts: 2,175
4/6/13 12:59 P

Yeah, it's like when "cholesterol" was first all the rage as the evil killer demon - and suddenly you get things like dill pickles showing up on the shelves with "CHOLESTEROL FREE" on the label. Hrm. Not like pickles ever had cholesterol in the first place, as cholesterol only comes from *animal* sources....

Or oat bran. My gosh. A sprinkling of the magic powder, "now with the added goodness of oat bran!" and that sugary junk cereal becomes medicine for the ailing heart? (eyeroll emote! eyeroll emote!)

Yeahhh Greek Yogurt. I'm just waiting for "Chevron, boosting your mileage with Greek Yogurt"... sheesh.



ZENANDNOW
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4/6/13 12:57 P

Very good, BUNNYKICKS! I will have to dig a bit deeper to look for actual website links to support the articles that I post in the future. emoticon

All the articles that I post are small articles taken directly from CSPI's Nutrition Action Healthletter, Consumer Reports/Health, or Bottom Line/Personal or Bottom Line/Health newsletters.

Usually, the most recent articles are not available online so that I can post actual links to them...so I just post the source of the material. And I never claim to "own" any of the material posted.





CALLMECARRIE
Posts: 1,357
4/6/13 12:55 P

I need an eye-rolling emoticon.

The Greek-yogurt fad is getting pretty silly. You would think people would realize a breakfast cereal that claims to be made with yogurt would not actually have active yogurt cultures in it, but I guess you would think wrong. It's like the gluten-free craze. I realize eating gluten free is a necessity for a lot of people, but the phrase "gluten free" seems to be appearing on things like pork chops now.



BUNNYKICKS
Posts: 2,175
4/6/13 12:03 P

Here, let's try re-posting the original topic.

So, Honey Bunches of Oats now has a "greek yogurt" flavour, capitalizing off the craze for "healthy" greek yogurt. However, the Centre for Science in the Public Interest discovered that:

[quote]
-The yogurt powder is heat treated, which kills the active yogurt cultures, and
- The protein, which is only 1 gram more than the regular Honey Roasted Honey Bunches of Oats, comes from milk protein isolate, whey, and non-fat dry milk solids...not from yogurt.
[endquote]

Read the full expose here!!!!
www.itsnotaboutnutrition.com/home/2013/3/2
8/the-miracle-of-yogurt-covered-cereal
.html


Edited by: BUNNYKICKS at: 4/6/2013 (12:05)


AILEBBELIA
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4/6/13 11:55 A



That's what I thought about first, but he was copying and pasting info.


I've been around awhile and the only thing that I have seen deleted are HCG posts and posts that have direct links to buy something.







LILLIPUTIANNA
Posts: 1,036
4/6/13 11:53 A

Our corporate overloads have spoken! All comments that tell the truth about the crap our food industry tries to trick us into eating will be deleted off of the SP message boards! (Monsanto is watching.)

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AILEBBELIA
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4/6/13 11:52 A

OP:

You can still talk about the subjects! Just provide links to nutritional info and then state your opinion.

This message board use to be pretty busy and now it's the same topics over and over. Your topics will make it more lively around here.

FYI, I saw the cereal on clearance for $1.00 at wal-mart! I wear braces so all I could think about is that eating that cereal would hurt too much.

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Edited by: AILEBBELIA at: 4/6/2013 (11:53)


BUNNYKICKS
Posts: 2,175
4/6/13 11:52 A

I thought we were allowed to quote from articles, as long as we attributed the source i.e. put a weblink in to the original that we were quoting from.... it's only "infringement" if you try and pass it on as your own words....



CORTNEY-LEE
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4/6/13 10:56 A

even if it isn't "real" it is still pretty darn tasty

As far as the Honey Bunches of Oats - I haven't tried it. I was never a big fan of the original flavor, so I don't think I would like any of the off shoots of it



ZENANDNOW
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4/6/13 10:12 A

An anonymous SparkPeople member (or members) has complained that the articles posted are a copyright infringement...so the original articles have been deleted. No good deed goes unpunished....



NAUSIKAA
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4/6/13 8:58 A

I don't know - very odd!!!



CALLMECARRIE
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4/6/13 8:19 A

What's with all the "deleted due to member complaints"?

Edited by: CALLMECARRIE at: 4/6/2013 (08:21)


NAUSIKAA
Posts: 4,848
4/6/13 3:47 A

Fage built a large factory in NY to meet the American Greek yogurt demand -- but maybe they shut it down and started importing, I haven't checked in a few years -- check your package, and if the barcode starts with 520 then it's imported from Greece, otherwise it's probably made in NY.

The feta is only "real" if it's imported from Greece, it has to be made with sheep and goat's milk that was milked on Greek territory according to the European Union laws. Of course that does not apply to the US so they can call anything "feta" even if it's made with cow (!!) milk. It doesn't mean it's BAD it's just not the same thing.



ANARIE
Posts: 12,141
4/5/13 11:12 P

Fage is "real." It's still imported.

Honestly, I think most of what makes food taste better in other places is nostalgia. Food tastes better when you're on vacation because you're on vacation. You remember the two or three really fabulous things you ate and forget the two dozen perfectly mediocre things. If you spend an extended time away from home, on the other hand, the two or three things you can't get in the new place are the things you remember most fondly. When I lived overseas many years ago as a student, we were all desperate for cinnamon gum and peanut M&Ms, because you couldn't get those outside the US back then. Within a week after I got back, I had no interest in either of those things anymore. Now I desperately miss some of the fruit we used to get there. Although, one of those was fresh pineapple, and now that we can get really good fresh pineapples in the US, the pineapple in my memory isn't quite as wonderful as it was when I couldn't have it....



GRAMCRACKER46
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4/5/13 9:30 P

I don't know why I am surprised, but I am and also disappointed at this sad news. I thought the Fage Greek yogurt was "real". Does this mean my feta is false too?
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DRAGONCHILDE
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4/5/13 8:44 P

I can get greek yogurt... the real stuff. Have been able to for years! We have a local Greek restaurant that also has a small grocery attached, with lots of imported yummies.



BUNNYKICKS
Posts: 2,175
4/5/13 7:08 P

It really is a shame. I wish we had more choice of food that hasn't gone through the Big Food Industrial Machine and come out as some sort of "rough approximation" of the "real thing." Yes, it's got shelf life. Yes, it's easy to make in a giant cost-effective centralized factory and distributed far and wide (oo, profits!). Yes, it tastes the same every time.

But yeah. So many things we think are legitimate-quality are really just Disney-fied emulations of reality. "Processed swiss slices" and "Greek style" yogurt and Old El Paso "burrito kits" and so on and so forth... just sigh.







LOVEMOUSE82
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4/5/13 6:58 P

Awe that's disappointing. I'm still a chobani fan but I'd like to try actual "Greek" yogurt sometime just to see the difference.



LILLIPUTIANNA
Posts: 1,036
4/5/13 6:21 P

Thank you NAUSIKAA!

When I was young, i traveled through Europe and I had a stop in Greece, where I had REAL Greek yogurt. It was amazing and delicious.

Here in the States, the law requires that milk products be pasteurized all to heck. So, the "Greek" yogurt we have here is NOTHING like you have there! I tried it, and nearly spit it out. The crap we pass off as "Greek" yogurt is vile.

It's the same with French cheeses! They are SO delicious in France...and here, they taste less so.

It's tragic that Americans think they are getting the real thing.





NAUSIKAA
Posts: 4,848
4/5/13 6:05 P

I live in Greece and I assure you that we do not have cereals with yogurt already in them! I think it's quite funny how Americans now have far more flavors and varieties of "Greek" yogurt than Greeks do. Most yogurt here is plain. Greek yogurt is a very healthy food but to my knowledge it's not actually sold in the United States -- I think it's all "Greek style" and no longer imported as of the mid 2000s. So it's all just labeling anyway. I've eaten American "Greek style" yogurt and it bears no relation to actual Greek yogurt.



MISSSVJS
Posts: 410
4/5/13 4:03 P

I always avoid prepackaged foods, including all cereals so when I saw the ads for this cereal with Greek yogurt I knew it was just a marketing ploy - you can't put what is normally a good, healthy food (that should be refrigerated) in a box and stick it on a shelf with a long shelf life and expect it to retain any of it's original goodness - not going to happen!



MIRANDAFRM2
Posts: 290
4/5/13 3:46 P

That is pretty much what I thought it would be when I saw the commercial. I am more aware of commericals now that I have been on SP. It amazes me what they try and make you believe is healthy. Good post! emoticon



SIMPLYME160
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4/5/13 3:44 P

First time I heard of Greek Yogurt was on a Dr, Oz show a while back, then BOOM! The store shelves were loaded with the stuff. Whatever Dr Oz talks about on his show hits the shelves within a matter of weeks! Wow is that guy a sales person, and manufactures take advantage of Dr. Ozs' promotions. People go for this kind of stuff in the name of "Health".



CILER11
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4/5/13 3:26 P

I love how companies do things like this. Use something that is healthy, turn it into something unhealthy, and market it as good for you. Thanks for the info.



ZENANDNOW
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4/5/13 3:13 P

deleted due to member complaints

Edited by: ZENANDNOW at: 4/5/2013 (22:57)


 
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