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NETSTUD37 Posts: 12
9/19/10 12:07 P

It saves time when compared to the marathon training sessions that many pro's use. I recommend Mike mentzer's heavy duty 2. It's a good read and was helpful to me. After the warm up you do 1 set to failure. At times you use a pre-exhaust technique. For instance I do peck-deck as an isolation pre-exhaust followed immediately with incline presses. It is very intense. Chest is fried. It's like being in the intense August sun for 30 minutes vs. standing in front of a light bulb all day. What will produce the best tan? Obviously the sun. Many people dont recognize the importance of recovery which is key. Muscles dont grow in the gym. Recovery could take days after a high intense workout. So the time savings is the fact that a workout could last literally only 15 minutes vs 1.5 hrs or more.

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9/18/10 7:21 A

NETSTUD - The book I read about HIT stressed the time savings and safety factors of HIT. The safety factor I get (less possibility for injury), however, I don't get the time savings point. As a beginner you're still doing 4 sets (2 warmups, 2 work sets), so how does that save time?

NETSTUD37 Posts: 12
9/15/10 11:02 P

made some good strength gains with HIT. I am up several reps in all exercises and feel really recovered. I will keep this up until I have more time to devote to a more traditional workout regimen.

NETSTUD37 Posts: 12
9/1/10 7:49 A

yeah mentzer didnt use it to the extent he says everyone else should. I have used it because it fits my hectic schedule. For instance this week I havent been able to workout at all. Hope to start up again at the end of the week. Dorian yates used a variation of it for his Olympia training but he was also on steroids so who knows how effective HIT would have been for him if he were clean

HOSEZAY Posts: 38
8/30/10 9:31 A

Mentzer based his method on the principles created/discovered by Arthur Jones who also invented nautilus machines that were all the rage back in the eighties. They still make very good equipment.
Mentzer and his brother died just days apart several years back.
As far as the Training, it is very intense and most people don't have the mental frame of mind to make it work and the ability to recover from the workouts without burning out. I would suggest other methods of training or find a person who has been trained to teach the hit method because most people who just read the book will never reach the intensity level needed to make it work.
The above is just the two cents worth of and old 80's bodyuilder who tried everything, and I do mean everything.
I would suggest you go over to bodybuilding.com over 35 bodybuilding section and ask your questions about routines, diet, etc. There are some very savvy people there that might be able to steer you in the right direction. Hope this helped.
One more thing, if you are dieting pretty heavy and by that I mean in 1500 to 1800 calorie perday kind of dieting it is going to be very very hard to gain muscle. Not saying it can't be done, but if you are going to gain muscle you have to eat for it. It might be better for you just to try to conserve what muscle you have and then go for building once you are down to a normal weight.

Edited by: HOSEZAY at: 8/30/2010 (09:46)
ARMSPORTS Posts: 1,310
8/30/10 8:36 A

I have used it and researched the science behind it. I believe it can be effective for short periods but is not the best approach to long term training ( I should point out there is some controversy as to whether Mentzer used this form of training to the extent claimed or if it was just a marketing tool. At any rate he took a lot of his theories from Arthur Jones, the developer of Nautilus Equipment.

No one disagrees that reaching threshold levels of intensity are critical to building muscle mass. But most peer reviewed research has shown that multiple sets are superior to single set maximal intensity routines (i.e. including forced reps and negatives). From personal experience, I think following up a more typical volume training approach with several weeks of HIT could be highly effective.

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8/29/10 5:58 P

I haven't used HIT methods yet, but I read the book "Training for Mass" by Gordon LaVelle.

www.amazon.com/Training-Mass-Second-Gordon
-LaVelle/dp/1616589426/ref=ntt_at_ep_d
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I think it's worth a try, but I cannot do it yet. First, I'm doing P90X for now. Second, I think I'm going to try a bit of volume training before HIT. I could see myself going a round of HIT within the next 6-9 months.

NETSTUD37 Posts: 12
8/28/10 9:34 P

Hey has anyone heard of Mike Mentzer and HIT? I have been researching his ideas and was wondering if anyone has followed his methods. He is a former Mr. Universe and was very close to defeating Arnold Schwarzenegger for the Olympia. He states that intensity is key to muscular growth and that only 1 set to failure is sufficient to stimulate growth. Another former Mr. Olympia followed this strategy (Dorian Yates) and had great success.

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