I do believe that men and women are different but in some ways the same. Men can have 12 of the same kind of screw driver and women can have 12 of the same shade of lipstick. If men are 40 years old and not married the world thinks they are a swinging single cool dude. If a woman is 40 years old and not married she is considered an old maid.
Sterotyping here for sure. I know the biggest back stabber his name is Jeff.
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Hmm, Interesting. While I don't think stereotypes are 100% true, I do think there is some truth in them, which is why they became associated with typical and persist.
For example, you say 2 year old, everyones mind pictures the 2 year old saying "NO" and having a melt down, not the sweet snugly little guy sharing his cookie with you.
As for men, I love'em. Don't always understand them but ...
Male stereotypes that I think are mostly true:
Believe they are invincible ...and don't want to change that belief, no matter what. And if they accept they aren't invincible, don't want to let anyone else know. Women want to be invincible, but we know we aren't and worry about that.
They "know" they are strong ...they CAN open that jar, lift that box, tote that bale etc Women try once, accept were not strong enough and call a man
Men appear to accept things as they are Women worry about things, a lot.
Men are sports fanatics, women aren't. I know guys who don't care about sports at all, and have a SIL who is a football fanatic, but in general, I think guys care more as it's about the competition and winning. Maybe part of the whole I am man and will be invincible mind set.
Men want to fix "it". What ever "it" is. Women want to talk about it and then fix it and accept it if they can't. Example" Any delivery room, any day! But when it comes to their kids, both want to FIX IT NOW!
I think we compliment each other with our strengths and weaknesses.
I did have to laugh though about the testosteroned teen who couldn't find the sugar. that's my men, but they never get lost going some where!
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Just to be flippant.
A man will (usually) have the gall to utter the words:
I do think that there are testosterone thinking patterns and estrogen thinking patterns. I also know all humans have both, and culture elevates one over the other in value.
But the biochemical response is intriguing.
True story: I was working on an article about transgendered youth. Mom was talking about her son, and when he started taking testosterone at 16. Before transitioning, this child, assumed female, was a helper in the kitchen. This child could be told, "grab the sugar, it's behind the flour and to the left." The child could find the sugar in seconds, as if the child had a brain map of the cabinet.
Three days into testosterone treatment, mom makes a similar request. Kid goes to kitchen, opens the cabinet, stares, closes the cabinet. "Mom, I can't find it!"
I'm the mom of a son who can, indeed find things, but will also do the open-stare-shut-give up routine. Unless it is a rare heavy metal album....then he can find things that barely exist.
I work with males. Lots of various forms of engineers, from sound to aerospace. I'm the daughter of an aerospace engineer (F16 and F22 projects come to mind). Because the women I knew were in accountancy, education, journalism, medicine, etc., I see engineering brain as a triumph of testosterone.
But that is MY misconception.
And how bout those Sharks? Yep. I'm neutral on most sports, but I watch a few hockey games each year.
Edited by: TRUEPEACENIK at: 5/4/2013 (13:28)
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I read somewhere a long time ago that "as long as women can't walk around bald with a beer gut and think they are the most handsome/beautiful thing in the world things will never be even" That being said I think it depends on the guy or the girl, I know some guys that don't hunt, fish or watch football crazy right, and I know women that do!!
This is one of those subjects that just depends on how you were brought up and the things you picked up while growing up.
I don't believe in stereotypes, but I think more woman at least try to be nurturing versus men that try to be take control/protect. And I think that influences a lot of behavior.
On the flip side more women are better at trying to persuade than men. Sometimes that gets interpreted as manipulative, other times that gets seen as submissive (because it looks like she is following his lead by going along with whatever he decides...when in fact she coaxes him into deciding her way). And multi-tasking is what we are trained to expect because a woman rarely plays any one dominant role...she is wife, lover, mother, daughter, sister, friend, housekeeper, and partner...and sometimes she plays that role to the same person...her husband. She's taught that her value is in what other people see and think about her...her relationships...she needs to wait until they accept her. She is expected to be sensitive to other people's needs...if she expresses her own needs too much, she's emotional/b**ch .
Men have the competitive, leader, commander thing going on. For many men, other people take care of other 'less important' tasks, allowing him to focus on what's most important for him at that time...so most men aren't as experienced at multi-tasking. He's taught to be competitive, to go after what he wants, to conquer his fears, and to take charge. He's taught less about relationships and more about goals. He is taught to care less about what other people think and more about self confidence. He's taught that nurturing is a female attribute, hanging tough is manly. He is expected to save face...if he expresses his own needs too much, he's aggressive/assertive.
IMHO ...The more a person combines personality attributes of both stereotypes the more well adjusted.
Edited by: SHERYLDS at: 5/4/2013 (08:49)
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I guess in generalities. I behave more like guy than a girl when it comes to my emotions. I'm not one to talk about them, I prefer... not to keep them "bottled up" but cope with them independently. I think that's the same for most guys. Admitting I need help with my emotions (ie: talking about them) makes me feel weak, exposed and codependent. Most of the time I'm quite capable of working through them on my own. It's not that I *never* do, I'm just far more reserved with them than my husband.
I also don't like to ask men, or anyone for help. I will try my darndest to figure it out or research how to do it myself before I ask anyone. I literally will have to try everything under the sun for myself before I ask a man or another woman, for that matter, for help or advice. I'm highly independent and stubborn.
And I love wild caught meat. My FIL always gets tons through his friends. I'm always eager to talk about the game with him; where it was caught, the type, the taste etc. and to try it for myself. I've never hunted but I've fished a lot. I've known how to gut a fish since I was 8 years old. When we were first dating, my husband and I went fishing. Guess who was the squeamish one about putting the worm on the hook and taking the fish off the hook? ;)
Overall, I tend to relate to men more than most women. Women usually seem like the aliens to me.
After all these years, I think I am getting it about the guys, but yet, I still think there are a few differences yet and I truly think men are from mars and woman are from venus LOL
Why do us woman take things so differently when you guys just mean just that one thing?
I asked my DH on what he was thinking he told me, you know that old TV screen when there were no channels and the screen was just that white static snow? I said "yes" He goes THAT... when we concentrate or watching something, we watch it, we can't multitask if I have something to say I will say it. Nothing more or nothing less LOL
But I do think guys hold in feelings and when things stresses guys out they like to hold it in like some sort of brain pot until it explodes then they let it all out at once because you guys are like problem solvers and not sitters wanting to listen to us gals rant and rave and just vent. You see a problem and you want to fix it (or us)
If I have an issue with my man, I will take it to my man, no one else.
Yes means yes, no means no, why do us woman have to be so difficult LOL
When it comes to fitness and health and points of view what are things that you guys want us girls to know, what are you thinking when we ask for help or your advice...
I go to the gym and I have asked some of the regulars for help on certain machines, but its kinda nice to know and a lot of times I don't know even if they are doing something correctly or not...does it bother you when we do this? Most the guys at the gym are happy to help but a few of them its like "don't bother me" kinda of thing.
It is really hard to read guys but I guess we don't have too LOL
I see bambi you see deer meat........when we look at the mirror at ourselves, we see ourselves as 5 sizes too fat and you see yourself as rambo and fit with the 6 packs. it really is two different worlds LOL
All I know I rather work with a bunch of guys over gals because if you guys get mad you will rant and rave and be done and let go.. us woman will hold grudges, back stab and never be the same again.
I am coming to the conclusion we just have to make things harder than what things really are LOL but that is just me.
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