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UNIDENT
Posts: 33,498
1/3/13 6:48 P

" i"m happy with results no matter what brought it on"

And that's the key. Congrats. :)

I can't "prove" it didn't work for you and that something else did it. You can't "prove" that it did work and was the extract alone that did it for you.



SMRDER1971
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1/3/13 5:09 P

Green tea extract did not do anything for me. But my pastor's wife takes them and is losing weight without changing her eating habits. She is not a big eater but likes her sweets and is losing even eating the sweets. I think trying to eat healthier with a few special occasions thrown in is the way to go.



50SMOM1
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1/3/13 4:30 P

Well once again all i can tell you is that i started with not really thinking it would work and it has done something. I had my last child at 42 and have been in menopause right after i gave birth to her. This was confirmed with doctors test. My eating route was never that excessive because especially on a daily bases but i will have a hamburger fries and coke or a carne asada burrito and a coke. I usually drink 5-7 cups of coffee for the last 15- 20 years only stopping when im expecting. I do not like water again i only drink when im expecting or dieting, i did not do this time. I did notkeep a log but i did weigh my self and i hit 190 heaviest i have ever been. today after all the xmas stuff and a well drank New years i am at 181. No dieting and no excercising. I do mention to anyone that ask that my food intake was not that large to begin with and that i felt my metabolism had just slowed done. Who knows, i"m happy with results no matter what brought it on.



UNIDENT
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1/3/13 1:29 P

Congratulations.

Were you tracking food the month before taking the pills? Are you tracking now? Can we see those?

I highly doubt you've had no change in eating. Perhaps you haven't consciously changed your patterns, but no pill will make you lose over a pound a week without any other lifestyle changes. That is just impossible.

More likely, because you're taking a pill that you believe will help you lose weight, you're subconsciously finding it easier to moderate your food and eat more healthily, which has caused the weight loss.



50SMOM1
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1/3/13 2:59 A

I have now been taking pills for two months. I have lost 9 pounds with absolutley no change in food intake and no exercise added. My goal was to use for two months and see if I had results, yes I did. I am 51, 4 kids and having trouble losing. I only eat once a day at lunch and every now and then a small snack at dinner. This is when I'm hungry. As I have told my friendss who ask I can only speak for myself and it works. Nothing over the top but I still eat and have my alcoholic beverage on weekends and lost. Now I am going to add exercise and still eat and drink what and went I want. I'll keep you posted.



SMANISMELL
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11/1/12 10:34 A

I had never heard of green coffee extract or green coffee before I purchased a can of Starbucks Refreshers which has it. I was just looking for an energy pickup, but this really did not do anything for me. I think the claim that green coffee extract can make you lose weight is a scam. I have not seen or heard of any substantial studies to support the claim.



ARTSYGIRLV2
Posts: 1,229
11/1/12 8:53 A

Eventually, Dr. Oz gets around to suggesting everything anybody ever posted on the internet. Rather than subjecting your body to this concentrated form of green tea, just have a cup or two of the real thing in the mornings.



A_SPARKLING
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10/31/12 9:10 P

never heard of it!



BERRY4
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10/31/12 1:24 A

Save your money!



UNIDENT
Posts: 33,498
10/30/12 11:46 P

"...obviously more likely to see results, and this supplement may give you that little extra boost in pounds lost. "

One of the regulars here looked up the studies done on one of the supplements Dr Oz was recommending, and found that even with the flawed study's own best-case scenario, you would be looking at (IIRC) something like 3-5 pounds extra PER YEAR when taking it.

Yes, they might give a "boost" ... is that boost sufficient for the outlay? I would say not.



DIETITIANBECKY
Posts: 26,437
10/30/12 7:15 P

What's in it for him? Higher ratings! No one would tune in if he just preached "moderation"--too boring. Sensationalism sells. Maybe I'm being to harsh! emoticon

Becky



MISSRUTH
Posts: 3,297
10/30/12 6:28 P

The bottom line for any kind of "diet" that included taking pills or extracts or elixirs or shots or whatever, would be.... does it teach you how to KEEP it off? So after you've lost the weight and don't need their products, would you be able to maintain the loss, or would you end up gaining the weight back (thereby needing to purchase their product again).

It seems to me (just mho) that Dr. Oz pushes a lot of these "diet aids". Sort of makes me wonder what's in it for him. But I'm sort of cynical that way.

If you read the directions/instructions/guides that come with these products, invariably it will state that they work in conjunction with eating right and exercising. I'd save my 30 bucks a month and spend it on something else.





LUCIG12
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10/30/12 6:08 P


I think the key here is that if there is any effectiveness with any of these kinds of products, you also need to be eating for weight loss and exercising. A lot of the people who take these are sitting on their butts, complaining about being overweight, looking for the easy way out. However, if you take this supplement while making those healthy changes and getting your butt in gear, then you are obviously more likely to see results, and this supplement may give you that little extra boost in pounds lost.




SKINNYJEANS180
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10/16/12 3:06 P

I think its another scam to make money from the obese and those looking for another quick fix to lose lbs. Every year, another new pill..if they worked for real, wouldn't doctors recommend them for weight loss. Stop and think a moment, how many of these promising pills have you tried in the past. Did they work long term? Did you continue taking them or move on to another new pill with the same promise? Those before and after ads, the "after" picture is taken first when the model is thin and water weight free, posed in a upright stretched position, the model gains water weight by drinking soda, eating chips,reposed in a slight slouch position, then the "before" shot is taken!



CANDIK48
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10/16/12 2:06 P

ok,, did some surfing and found some research regarding chlorogenic acid, the compound that is the active feature in GCE..

here it is:

http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Ado
i%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0032718

and
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/4/7
28.full

apparently there is some actual proof that chlorogenic acid does slow down the absorbtion of glucose in the intestines



CANDIK48
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10/16/12 12:58 P

I saw the same episode online and was doing some research as well. I'm curious also. I did read some "testimonials" where the bulk of the people said they enjoyed weight loss benefits but there were also people who said it didn't work. There was one article I read where it was suggested that perhaps some of the effects would benefit diabetics. Makes me wonder if (and if not, why not?) more structured research being done on this?



JANETAMCMASTER
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10/16/12 10:17 A

I was skeptical, but the study seemed to be well designed, two groups, blinded, and placebo controlled. the numbers in the group were small, so this makes it less reliable, but still interesting. I started taking the green coffee extract two months ago, and have noticed a definite result. Keeping to the same calories, and still working out, not expecting miracles. Dropped 10 stubborn pounds in the past two months. No side effects, no complications.
Gave a friend the article, and in two weeks, she has noticed a change in the way her clothes fit, although no change in the scale.
All good.



DIETITIANBECKY
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9/11/12 8:17 P

I wonder if his little study would be accepted in any medical, peer-reviewed research journal Or was it just done for show ratings. :)
Becky



SUZEMARIE73
Posts: 81
9/11/12 4:19 P

They used some pretty good standards in selecting the groups. Each group I think had 32 people in it, but I can't say for exactly. They were weighed in and measured for starting and ending measurements. They were required to keep a food log of everything they ate. I'm not saying it's going to work the same for everyone or that everyone should go out and buy it. I'm just saying the results are hard to ignore. They're small enough to be realistic. I think it's only $30 for a months supply so it's not too expensive to try either. If it doesn't work, then it doesn't, but I don't see the harm in it.



UNIDENT
Posts: 33,498
9/11/12 3:57 P

Two weeks isn't long enough. How many people were in each group? Was someone monitoring that each person rigidly stuck to the same prescribed diet as everybody else? Or was this more "here, take this pill then self report on how you did"?

Sounds like it was most likely an interesting examination for a show, but entirely unscientific, and the results would be completely meaningless, really.



SUZEMARIE73
Posts: 81
9/11/12 3:49 P

Interesting that the website doesn't mention the study they did. It was just featured on the show yesterday. Long story short, the results were impressive, but not MIRACULOUS. The control group lost an average of 1lb in 2 weeks taking the placebo. The group that actually got the extract lost an average of 2lbs in 2 weeks. So the message is...it works but it's not a quick fix and is probably still best used in CONJUNCTION with diet and exercise not in lieu of it.



UNIDENT
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9/11/12 2:45 P

His website only mentions the previously referred to, poor methodology, study with only 16 participants that apparently can't be replicated by anybody else. No mention of his own study.

www.doctoroz.com/videos/fact-sheet-green-c
offee-bean


I do have to laugh at this at the end of the article: "Also, understand that no pill is more effective than maintaining a regular exercise regimen and a healthy diet."



SUZEMARIE73
Posts: 81
9/11/12 1:32 P

Did any of you check out the Dr. Oz episode yesterday where he did his own study on the extract? If you didn't, I suggest you go to his website and give it a look.



TERESAFAHEY
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7/20/12 10:31 A

Thanks so much for your quick repy! That was an excellent explanation. :) Have a fabulous weekend.



DIETITIANBECKY
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7/19/12 4:48 P

Check out this:
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20871849

Notice that there is some promising results from some studies on green coffee extract-- GCE...but the studies are of poor design and methodolgy. So more reliable studies, with good research design are needed.
I have also seen that there is concern regarding the quality of supplement on the market; how much GCE does it actually contain. And many of these companies are making "overblown" claims that are not supported by research. This then puts it in the SCAM category. But, it could be promising if more research was done, and the supplement contained what it was supposed to contain and basically just stated the facts.

SP dietitian becky

Edited by: DIETITIANBECKY at: 7/19/2012 (16:51)


TERESAFAHEY
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7/19/12 3:27 P

HI Becky. I respect the fact that your are (I'm guessing) an RD. But I've done some research on reliable websites, and I'm finding that there actually may be something to this, due to the ample chlorgenic acid content. Are you absolutely sure this is a scam?

Edited by: TERESAFAHEY at: 7/19/2012 (15:28)


DIETITIANBECKY
Posts: 26,437
7/17/12 8:12 P

Caffeine speads the metabolism slightly and for a very short time period. Really no true calorie burning effect or benefit with weight loss. Scam.
Dietitian Becky



RADIOTIKSPARK1
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7/17/12 6:23 P

Heh. I had to look up "green coffee" to see what it was. I used to live on a coffee plantation and I couldnt for the life of me figure out what part of the plant (other than the leaves) were supposed to be green. The berries are red. The unroasted "beans" are sort of a light tan. But yes, green coffee is unroasted coffee. I guess that is normal in english.

So basically, green coffee extract is just coffee extract...which sounds to me like what you could get out of a cup of regular coffee.

As an aside, I looked up the "study" that claims to link green coffee extract and weight loss. The study only looked at 16 people (only 8 were given the extract), it was published in a not very well respected journal, and the results have not been duplicated by anyone else.

As those before me said, supplements and extracts that claim to help you lose weight never ever help you lose weight. If they did, EVERYONE would take them, wouldnt they?

Edited by: RADIOTIKSPARK1 at: 7/17/2012 (18:23)


LUANN_IN_PA
Posts: 15,880
7/17/12 4:29 P

"Is it a hoax, and is it safe?"

It IS a hoax.
It probably is safe, meaning it won't harm you.



UNIDENT
Posts: 33,498
7/17/12 3:26 P

Hoax.

No supplement or extract pill actually works. Even the drugs you need prescriptions for, that do work, help you lose a few extra pounds a YEAR and come with nasty side effects.

If your friend successfully lost weight on this pill, it will be because taking "a weight loss pill" every day helped her stay on track with food and exercise goals to achieve her desired weight loss.

It's all mental.



LORILEEPAGE
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7/17/12 3:10 P

I have a friend who lost weight using Green Coffee Extract. Is it a hoax, and is it safe? Dr Oz talked about it a while ago and suggested it. I only heard about it yesterday.



 
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