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GRETA242
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6/26/12 4:39 P

You are right. I feel shaky after eating a high protein and veggie diet that does not include fat. I think for me, adding fat is the key to keeping my blood sugar stable.



GRETA242
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6/26/12 4:33 P

I get shaky sometimes after eating lunch and then gorge on sweets to make up for it. I'd love to know more about this problem and yes, I am diabetic. It happens when I eat a high protein with carbs lunch :(



MICHELLEXXXX
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6/9/12 11:40 A

What I hear you describing sounds like "induction flu". It lasts for the first week-2 weeks of low carbing as your body adjusts to digesting fats and protein more easily. Temporary inconvenience for a permanent improvement IMO.



HOLISTICDETOXER
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6/9/12 11:10 A

How many calories are you eating, in total, each day?



KRALLEN1
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6/8/12 1:10 P

I have that same problem so I have decided to try and eat as many good carbs such as whole wheat. I also found this bread by Aunt Millie and its only 35 calories a slice and its low carb and that seems to do the trick when I feel a little drained.



JORDANIE25
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6/8/12 8:46 A

I would have to say that if your feeling sick.... You shouldn't do it. Eat! I emoticon



GALEYGIRL
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6/7/12 3:57 P

Try just having carbs for breakfast and lunch and then maybe you can eliminate them at dinner. People are so dumb about carbs (not you) I mean, yes, it's not good to over indulge in carbs, but it's also not good to over indulge in fat or protein. Our brains need carbs to function!! Our bodies were meant to eat carbs, just be smart and not drastic about it!



KFWOHLFORD
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6/7/12 2:40 P

A low carb diet may not be for you. It sounds like you just need to cut out some of the carbs you are eating (candy bars and egg noodles), and replace them with healthier ones. Sprouted grain bread, quinoa, brown rice and oats, could easily be a healthy part of your diet.



MAGGIEMURPHY4
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6/7/12 2:37 P

I am hypoglycemic, I need to eat every few hours or I get nauseous, dizzy and shaky...It doesn't happen all the time but it happens mostly after exercise or not eating for long periods of time. I become more symptomatic when I eat high sugar carbs (like cereal) before a workout, because it spikes my sugar levels and then they crash. If you are hypoglycemic, when you crash you crash below your already low blood sugar level. Managing hypoglycemic is managing sugar levels so they stay consistent so your not spiking way up to crash way down. Try eating a piece of fruit when you feel symptomatic...you should feel immediate relief if it a low blood sugar problem.

Your doctor should be able to give you a fasting blood sugar test and that will determine your sugar levels. I agree with the other members comments, carbs are not a bad thing and they get a bad rap... you need to just make better choices in which ones you include in your diet. The other thing is your body will revolt when cutting out sugar/carbs and it will take some time for you to adjust. Esp. if you have been eating carbs with added sugar as a main staple to your diet for a long period of time. Best of luck.

Edited by: MAGGIEMURPHY4 at: 6/7/2012 (14:56)


TEMPERANCE88
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6/7/12 2:20 P

Definitely talk to a doctor, and if you can, a nutritionist or dietician.

I took a nutrition class recently and the minimum number of carbs your body needs (according to the textbook) is 130 grams per day. Otherwise your body starts to go into a state called ketosis because your body doesn't have the glycogen it needs to perform basic body functions. It can get some glycogen from other sources...but it usually is your muscles, and can lead to you feeling weak and tired.

Carbs seem to get such a bad rap, but really if you're eating complex, as-close-to-their-natural-state-as-possibl
e carbs (like oats, rice, whole grain breads and pastas) you should be fine.



CAMPGIRL1971
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6/7/12 1:24 P

I am hypoglycemic and my doctor has recommended a low carb diet. When I eat this way, my sugar levels stay more normal and I find I don't crave sugars.

However, there is a huge difference between LOW carb and NO carb. The lunch you described was basically a NO carb lunch! I aim for 50-60 carbs per day. I eat lots of veggies and get in good fats. However, I don't limit myself. I eat rye toast for example...27 carbs in two slices of the brand I buy. I eat blueberries (about 10 carbs in 1/2 a cup).

From what you described, I think you are cutting your carbs too drastically. Good luck!!



ANIMATEASH1
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5/23/12 9:36 P

I do plan to have a conversation with my dr. regarding the conflict of possible hypoglycemia and going low carb. I've gotten some very helpful private messages that pertained to glycemic levels specifically.
Just to clarify, my daily carb intake is at LEAST 125g, usually over. I've been pretty good about sticking to the range provided by my spark plan. 30-45g seems near impossible, so I'm glad that's not recommended. I hadn't thought to get as specific as grams in my original post, so sorry if I freaked anyone out with the idea that I was crash dieting or something!



DIETITIANBECKY
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5/23/12 8:25 P

I also encourage a longer talk with your doctor about this.

When you say you are having 2-3 carb food servings daily, this could be only 30-45 grams total. When in fact, 35-40% of your calories coming from carbohydrate is actually considered a lower intake. For someone eating 1500 calories daily, that would be about 130-168 grams. Which is still greatly lower than what the typical American consumes daily--but will provide the person with the carbs needed for healthy body and brain functioning.

Clarification from your doctor is important.

Dietitian Becky



JUSTBIRDY
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5/21/12 10:10 A

I agree with what Bearclaw says, and also for me, it took about a month to adjust from being a sugar-burner to being a fat-burner. If I go off the low carb diet, I also have an adjustment period each time, but now it is only for a day. Low carb diets usually work well for people with hypoglycemia, but it is helpful if you can follow the guidance of either your doctor or a good low carb book written by a doctor. Dr. Bernstein's book is very good for that. He is a diabetic and has stayed trim and healthy for years by following a low carb diet. His book will also give you answers as to why your doc probably thinks this is the preferred diet for you.



BEARCLAW6
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5/21/12 9:59 A

I would definitely suggest talking to your doctor about it.

I would also suggest that if you feel weak and are trying to eat low carbs that you should add more fat to your diet. Olive oil, avocado, slightly fattier cuts of meat....that sort of thing. This should help keep you from feeling hungry and help with the weakness. Very few people can eat low carb AND low fat.

If you are just starting out, it also takes your body somewhere between a week and a month to get used to burning fat instead of carbs. It is sort of like retooling a factory to make cars instead of tanks. It takes a little time. Once your body gets used to it, the weakness should go away.....if you are eating enough.

I will add....that for many people, the hypoglycemia goes away on low-carb diets. This may sound counterintuitive, but basically it gets your liver to convert protein and parts of fat into glucose and so you always have a supply even if you skip lunch. Most people's liver does this every night since you are going many hours between meals, but for a low-carb eater it happens all day long as needed.

Edited by: BEARCLAW6 at: 5/21/2012 (10:02)


SPIDERGIRL502
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5/21/12 7:16 A

I think I may be hypoglycemic (I have to eat every few hours or I get dizzy and weak feeling), and I've recently gone low-ish carb and increased my protein. I try to limit myself to 200g of carbs per day (which is about 40% of my calories from carbs), so I'm definitely not within the "low-carb" group.

I've found that when I do have carbs, if I chose more complex-carbs, like whole grain pasta and bread, my blood sugar stays more steady and even throughout the day. When I have white breads and sugars, that's when I start feeling dizzy and weak.

I also find that I feel better when I eat carbs early in the day. For example, about half my carb intake is with my breakfast, and I have very little carbs with dinner (I find that I don't crave them later in the day if I have them early on).

Just my two-cents, from a self-diagnosed hypoglycemic who is trying to limit carbs. :)



NIRERIN
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5/21/12 7:16 A

how big is your pork chop? because a cup of broccoli is what, 40 cals? a half cup of green beans is 10 cals? because if your pork chop is under 200 cals, you're eating less than 250 cals at a meal. which is great if you're eating six plus times a day. but if you're trying to stick to three square meals it's way too little food and you can't expect that little food to get you through for hours and hours.
now i can't say much as to low or lower carb diets. i keep my carbs to over 50% of my cals. partially because i don't eat meat very much, which means that all my protein comes from carbs and partially because i find carbs more sating than anything else [a 100 gram potato baked and topped with broccoli and cheese or lentil curry is the absolute most filling food i can eat], so keeping them higher makes sense to me.



EX-PRESSO
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5/21/12 1:48 A

What helps one - doesn't help another!

I tried cut out carbs - and ended with a LOT of migraine.

Now I'm eating not too much calories, but cut more fat than carbs (well, I simply eat what I think its the best) and my bloodsugarlevel is wonderful and I lose weight.

I love my rye-wholemeal bread. And rice. And potatoes.

My father is a diabetic type 2 and he is on medication. At start of the year he had to change, cause his bloodsugar level was still too high. He cut out cars pretty drastic. Eats a müsli in the morning, a slice (or two) of protein-based-bread for lunch, some sweet stuff after and no carbs in the afternoon and evening. His fasting sugar is pretty good now, even if he only lost 10 pound (he should lose another 50).

So ... everyone is different!



UNIDENT
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5/21/12 1:14 A

Well, you don't talk about totals, maybe you're just eating "too low" altogether, and that's why you're at a weight loss wall? Eating too little can stop weight loss - and if you were burning 3x the recommended number of calories, it's entirely possible you simply weren't eating enough to cope with your burn amount.



RUSSTHESKIGUY
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5/21/12 1:14 A

AnimateAsh1 - There are some people on spark using low carb diets but I don't think the majority are. You need to get a certain amount of calories each day and carbs provide an important component of that. If you are keeping your carbs low are you increasing your protein or your fat calories to make up the difference of what you would normally get from carbs on a more traditional nutrient breakdown. Also, if you are burning a lot more calories from exercise than you planned for, you might need to eat more calories to keep your weight loss going. A huge calorie deficit, whether from eating too little or exercising a ton, can slow down your metabolism. Just some things to think about. There have been a lot of other posts written discussing this issue that people often need to eat more to lose weight. I'm not an expert but I would suggest looking at some of the other posts in the nutrition section on this topic and seeing what some of the professionals on the site have to say about it.

Good luck.



RUSSTHESKIGUY
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5/21/12 1:04 A

Ryokosith makes a very good point. Obviously here at Spark our intention is to provide helpful advice but most of us are not certified professionals such as dieticians or trainers (although there are a few like Becky who give great advice). If your doctor recommended you go low carb I would suggest talking to him about it. From your post you said that others including your doctor recommended low carb because they had seen success with it. If your doctor is telling you to go low carb becuase you have some specific issue with your health that he has diagnosed, then I say definitely listen to your doctor and continue with the low carb. However, if your doctor was giving you a generic recommendation that low carbs are good for losing weight (and he gives that same advice to everyone) then I would not feel bound to follow it. Doctors (general practicioners) are smart people and great at what they do but most are not nutrition experts. Again, a diet that makes you feel sick and drains you of energy should generally be avoided unless your doctor is telling you to do it for a specific medical reason (and low carbs generally help people lose weight does not count). Just my two cents.



ANIMATEASH1
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5/21/12 12:53 A

Low-ish carb (2-3 servings) is the current plan I'm following. I already know that cutting out carbs entirely would be idiotic --the body needs to have some to function properly. Clearly 2 or 3 is not enough. I've moved up to 4-5 servings to stay feeling well, but I've also hit a weight loss wall along with that decision.
I continue to try going high veggie/ low carb in the hopes that my sickness the last time was a fluke (it never is). Also, because I'm sick of having a double chin in pictures and all I hear from people is LOW CARB LOW CARB LOW CARB. Silly? Maybe. But burning 3 times my designated calories per week hasn't helped, so I guess I'm getting desperate for tricks :/



RYOKOSITH
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5/21/12 12:42 A

Very true.

What works for one group of people does not necessarily work (or is healthy) for another. Which is why each of us have to experiment some to learn what our own body needs and can handle. As it is on your doctor's advice that you try this, give yourself time to adjust, but be very mindful of how you respond to what you are eating and make adjustments as necessary. For some people, it can take a couple weeks to adjust...others a bit longer...and some no noticeable carb withdrawal.

When you reduce carbs, keep an eye out not only for sodas, rice, potatoes, pasta, bread, and candy, but also juice, dressings, dairy, gravies and such. If you look, you'll even find added sugar to hotdogs, jerky, and lunch meat. Reading ingredient lists in conjunction to looking at the posted nutritional content is a very important skill to foster. See if there is anything you eat on a regular basis that might have sugar snuck into it and that might be something you can reduce or replace with a similar product which doesn't have the added carbs. "Diet" foods...ones that are touted as being low fat or "lite" are usually bad about this sort of thing.

And make sure to drink plenty of water.

Edited by: RYOKOSITH at: 5/21/2012 (00:45)


RUSSTHESKIGUY
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5/21/12 12:38 A

To be successful you have to find something that you can sustain. If your eating plan makes you feel sick, that is not sustainable and probably not healthy either. Like Unident said, low carb diets are not the only game in town. Some peoples bodies react better by reducing certain things like carbs, or fat but that doesn't mean it works for everybody. It sounds like low carb is not very well suited to you, and you can definitely continue to lose weight without eating low carb. There are a ton of people here on spark using normal levels of carbs (40-55%) who are losing weight just fine. Also, try not to think of it as a diet but as new more healthy eating choices...the goal is to change habit patterns for life.

Good luck.



UNIDENT
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5/21/12 12:26 A

Why not try low-ish carbs?

If low carb makes you feel awful, why would you keep doing that? Get off that plan. It's not for everyone, and it's absolutely NOT the 'only' or 'essential' way to lose fat!

So don't do it.

You can reduce carbs, in line with the recommendations of a lowered carb plan, without eliminating them. Instead of having a 'normal' 6-11 servings of carb every day, have 2-3. That might keep you feeling a bit better, and still give you some of the benefit of a lowered carb approach.



RYOKOSITH
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5/21/12 12:12 A

When you get rid of the carbs are you replacing them with fat?

Your body uses two primary sources of fuel, glucose (which can be generated from carbohydrates and sugars) and fat. If you dramatically reduce one source, you need to make up for it with the other. A combined low-carb/low-fat diet is not healthy and will likely leave your body feeling fatigued as it deals with lack of energy.

And it can be as simple as adding oil, or even butter, to your veggies. When eating low-carb, don't be afraid to eat the skin on chicken. Have something like a few nuts and berries for an easy snack.

Edited by: RYOKOSITH at: 5/21/2012 (00:14)


ANIMATEASH1
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5/20/12 11:55 P

As part of my quest to lose weight, I've tried to adopt a diet low in carbs and higher in protein and veggies. This has been the advice of my doctors and friends who have lost weight, as well as blogs, etc. It seems to be pretty well known that cutting carbs helps.
The trouble for me is that not eating at least one carb based meal a day leaves me feeling nauseous and weak. Eating vegetables at every meal makes me feel as though I'm not eating enough, even though the portions are adequate. I end up a little faint and like I don't want to get off the couch. This happens any day that I try to go low carb/ high veggie.
My mother has long suspected I may be hypoglycemic, though no dr. has ever formally diagnosed it.
For example, yesterday I had a lunch of one small pork loin chop with a cup of broccoli and a half cup of green beans. By 4ish, I felt gross. The only thing that kick starts me into feeling normal again is a dose of carbs (cup of egg noodles, or half a candy bar if I'm in a pinch). I realize that veggies are not calorically dense, but other people seem to be able to eat portions like this, accompanied by protein, and do just fine.
Any hypoglycemics out there? Would that condition explain my low carb troubles? Does anyone with hypoglycemia have tips on how to diet without feeling like crap all the time?



 
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