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RONIGH Posts: 631
5/3/13 4:45 P

Never, until the age of 18.

OKIEGIRL561 Posts: 2,362
5/3/13 2:59 P

Of course children should be taught to handle a gun. Gun safety is important. Parents who don't know how to use a gun won't choose to do so. It is still a choice, isn't it?

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5/3/13 2:41 P


5/3/13 2:35 P

First of all I am as left as they come, politically speaking, but when it comes to guns I say learning "safety" about guns, to include shooting a gun, I think is important. Like a car license, I think 16 is a good age to start learning about gun safety. Now I do n't know WHAT the laws are in my state (PA) about gun laws except that we do have them so maybe they already do this, IDK.

Shooting a gun for sport and shooting a gun for protection (i.e. the REAL meaning of stand your ground) are, in my opinion, two different things. If the mom is doing it for protection then I hope there's a lot of knowledge going into the training.

ZIGFISH Posts: 1,459
5/3/13 2:21 P

I learned to shoot as a child. Police in home invasion situations are after the fact. I live in a suburb and have often thought of getting a gun for protection. It is my responsibility to protect my family, it is the job of the police to find the criminal. If they get there in time to protect me. If a few people from the neighboring city, many of whom are drug users, invaded my home there is no way the police could arrive in time to protect my family.

The guns are not at fault. Society has gone so the wrong way and desensitized by entertainment of all sorts and lost faith.

Of course a responsible gun holder would use the weapon as a last resort as protection but the right to protect my life and property is mine.

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5/3/13 2:00 P

No, definitely not. Not even toy guns.

JGIRL5799 Posts: 561
5/3/13 1:43 P

We have special locks on the guns, plus within a safe, plus we have a smaller safe within that safe to keep our bullets..only DH and I know the combo and we are the only one that has access to the keys to the main safe. .As for kids, that would be parents responsibilities and its just common sense. luckily all of our kids are over 15 now and adult ages, even if friends with younger kids bring them over, they know everything is locked up safely, all guns are unloaded, and they are not allowed to even come close to where we keep the guns.. its not a game nor do we treat it as such.... that would be stupid.

Things are right to if something happened when we were not home and our kids were, it wouldn't do them any good anyway, there are so many different situations what we say we can do to what will happen are two different things. I couldn't even tell you in that situation we do this, or that situation we do that. Something like that happens, it will happen quickly so reacting would be quiet different and pending on the reaction and where it happens. If our guns are in a locked safe upstairs and we are downstairs, there would be no protecting then.

After I got married the first time, we did live in a gang and really active bad, heavily drugged out neighborhood (before I had my son) and there was gun shots every night, cops constantly and these gangs even broke our windows out a few times.. For that situation I slept with a loaded gun under my mattress for a quick easy access. My Ex at the time was an over the road truck driver. I lived like that for 3years...
Now that I am remarried and we live in a safer neighborhood to where we can leave doors open all the time, it is a different way of living and life and I love it, so having something like that happening now would be rare indeed. It would be a different situation, everyone would act differently.
Great point indeed :-))

Edited by: JGIRL5799 at: 5/3/2013 (13:50)
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5/3/13 1:26 P


SHERYLDS Posts: 15,866
5/3/13 1:24 P

I guess things work a little differently in my area of NY/NJ.
People don't typically invade your house Announced.
And assuming someone with kids doesn't keep a loaded gun in the closet...
you need time to find the key, take it out of the
'safe' area, load it, and find your perpetrator.
Granted for someone like me ... that could take a few minutes.
By that time...the criminal has already done the crime.

@JGIRL5799 so as a protection from killing, rapping or stabbing, I'm not sure it would work

but I guess in remote areas, people better call you before they head up your driveway
if they don't want to be greeted by a loaded rifle.
Still, I can not see many criminals making their presence known ahead of time...
and again...if someone has kids...I hope the gun is put safely out of their hands.

JGIRL5799 Posts: 561
5/3/13 1:10 P

lololol new word for the day love it!

What I find weird is that my parents and whole family is anti- guns. Never brought up around them, they were totally against kids and everyone against them.. Never even shot before.. It wasn't until after my first marriage that we got into the Civil War reenactments and shooters competitions and cowboy reenactment shoots. That is when I was first even introduced into the gun thing.

I fell in love with the guns then, but I was scared to death of them at first, but I took all the classes, have my license lolol, I grew a huge new respect for them...
I am pretty sure I would be anti gun myself by now, if it wasn't for my ex hubby getting me into the hobby and the NRA LOL

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5/3/13 12:59 P

@LadyCJM: I love the term 'educationalist.' I think I'll have to start using it myself. :D

FENWAYGIRL18 Posts: 5,868
5/3/13 12:50 P

No..... This is a hot topic for sure after what happened in Newtown CT, I was very upset that the stricter background checks didn't go through after that massacre. Even adults aren't responsible with guns at times. Accidents happen and no one needs to own a semi automatic gun that can shoot rounds and rounds of bullets unless they are going to do something horrible.
Even the Boston Bombers had them, now how does someone who has been on the list of the FBI as a possible radical get to have a gun like that?
To much violence, to many sick people out there with their hands on these weapons of destruction, we need tougher laws, but once again the peoples voices weren't heard during that vote.
How can you sit there and watch families of children that were innocently killed just going to school and vote against stricter background checks is beyond me.
So many futures lost.....
If someone is going to own a gun then they should be responsible and have it in a safe.

JGIRL5799 Posts: 561
5/3/13 12:46 P

Bunny: That was one of my original quotes and I had changed it because I got out of the OP topic and changed it to something else getting that back into the main topic again about kids...hence my adding and changing my post.. I am bad about getting off topic and random changing things LOL

When I made that comment, it was nothing meant to be taken about protecting "things or property" with guns..

A lot of thieves and robbers have had other intent such as killing, rapping or stabbing on the victims of the houses that they do rob and they have gotten away with it, With the intent of hurting someone like myself or my family... That is what I would be protecting. They would meet my "Annie" (the name of my gun LOL)

Things are things and property can always be replaced... you can never ever replace a life but you can bet it will be protected:-))

Edited by: JGIRL5799 at: 5/3/2013 (13:05)
GERARLAUR Posts: 341
5/3/13 12:31 P

no, no, no, no, no.

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5/3/13 12:28 P

I think learning how to handle a gun at an early age takes a lot of the mystery out of guns. My brother and I first shot bb guns at an early age (probably 5 or so) because my dad and grandfather have large gun collections. I don't know what the magic age is either, and I assume it is different for different kids.
I also don't think you can correlate child shootings with being taught how to properly handle a gun as a kid. Honestly, it's not rocket science. Even if you've never touched a gun before, you could pick one up and figure out how to use it pretty quickly.

BUNNYKICKS Posts: 2,410
5/3/13 12:23 P

"Can I expect a robber just to wait around while someone's breaking in my home and just waiting for them to be arrested by the cops? I think not, I will have that gun pulled on him first, and I will use it if need to be."

Problem with this is
- the robber, whose intent was to take your possessions, might react to the threat of danger you present, when you come at him with a weapon - becoming violent against you, when it otherwise would have been a property crime.
- sometimes, "mistaken identity" does happen... and what a person initially believes to be an intruder, turns out not to be.... wouldn't want to "shoot first" in a situation like that.....
- YOU could end up in serious legal trouble if it is deemed that you reacted with excessive force.

Possessions are just possessions. Protecting them by violent assault against those that would take them from you, is not worth the risk.

If you fear for your own (or a loved one's) safety or life, well that's a different story. But... someone that had the intent to physically harm you, would have probably already thought through "the possibility that the target/victim" is armed" and make their plans accordingly, taking this factor into account during the planning of the crime, how they will neutralize your ability to "protect yourself" during the execution of the crime. While I don't have any statistics at my disposal, it seems to me that not very many attempted kidnappings, premeditated murders, etc., are foiled when the target pulls a gun on the perp....

I realize my opinion will be seen as naive. But, such is my opinion, nonetheless.

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5/3/13 12:18 P

Most of the child tragedies we read about are because of lack of education. Of course, this applies to more than guns.

I'm an "educationalist". I believe everyone should be educated on as many things as their brains can contain. That includes gun safety, manners, birth control, abortion, evolution, creationism, typing, pet care, health, hygiene, politics, religion as well as literature, math, science and whatever else we can learn. Knowledge is power.

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5/3/13 12:14 P


True story here: one evening a doberman (whose owners had apparently left him with a friend in the area, aka not a known dog) got loose in my area (houses on 2-3 acre plots) and started menacing my family's beagle. While my mom called 911 for animal control to come out with a tranq gun and I called the neighbors to keep their kids/pets inside, my dad kept the shotgun trained on the doberman so that he would be ready to shoot if the dog attacked. Luckily animal control got there before anything happened and secured the dog, but it was still 15 *very* anxious minutes for the 4 of us (me, my parents, and our dog).

As for hunting, in a large portion of the county, it really is a hour or 2 to the nearest grocery store so, yeah, hunting for dinner is cheaper, easier, and greener (no emissions from driving to the store and back).

That being said, I believe you should only pull the trigger only when you have a clear and logical reason for doing so. So a little hesitation is an excellent thing. No one (here) is advocating for people to be out shooting off guns willy-nilly. This is why I think the idea of allowing people to carry guns into bars is idiotic because, frankly, who is clear and logical in a bar? Ever?

JGIRL5799 Posts: 561
5/3/13 12:09 P

Now I forgot to add as well that we also had a bb gun and black powered pistols...

My kids were shooting those first before handling our other guns... They were 12yrs old until they got to shoot and go hunting with our 22s and other riffles..

I do agree with LJ that I do think age has a difference it all depends on the maturity of each kid, because each child does not mature at the same rate.

Edited by: JGIRL5799 at: 5/3/2013 (12:16)
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5/3/13 11:51 A

Depends on the age and maturity level of the child and they would have to receive proper training.

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5/3/13 11:45 A

I take my teenagers to the shooting range but there is no way I am putting a gun into my 7 year old daughter's hands. I am not sure if there is some magic age but I know my 7 year old is not capable of being safe and keeping the weapon facing down range so she does not go with us.

NWLIFESRC Posts: 9,316
5/3/13 11:41 A

With proper training.

SHERYLDS Posts: 15,866
5/3/13 11:40 A

being in a remote area would appear to be a very valid reason for needing a gun
(however uncomfortable it is for me to admit).
I believe in being humane to someone like me, killing for sport is out of the question. Giving a child a gun so they can enjoy the game of hunting is something I can't agree with.

I'm not sure most adults (much less children) are qualified to make the decision as to when they have a valid reason to protect themselves or their property by shooting someone.
Even police hesitate before shooting someone.

ANARIE Posts: 12,981
5/3/13 11:05 A

SherylLDS asked,

"'m just a naïve person originally from the Bronx
Don't they have police or sheriffs in the rest of the country?
Do they call the police or sheriffs when they have a problem or do they settle it themselves?"

In all fairness, there are a lot of places in this country where law enforcement is a LONG way away. Right now I live in a county that is larger than the state of Connecticut and has a sheriff and four deputies. A lot of people live on remote ranches accessed by dirt roads. If you called and they responded immediately, it still might take three hours for them to reach you. I grew up in a much less remote rural area, and even there it would take at least half an hour. It's understandable that ranch and farm families might think they need a gun, if only to shoot at animals that prey on their livestock and pets. But they also need NOT to leave their children alone. If you're putting your child in a situation where they might need a gun, that's pretty much the definition of child neglect.

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5/3/13 11:05 A

It is all about how it is taught to the child. I first learned how to shoot a bb gun when I was probably 8 or 9. Then I went to summer camp at age 10 (a Christian camp mind you!) and we spent time at the rifle range every day and learned how to shoot 22's, but we FIRST spent a great amount of time going over gun safety and handling.

I shoot with my cousin and my grandpap, and I've dated someone who is an Iraq vet and always had his holster when we would go out. Didn't bother me in the slightest.

If parents take the time instead of giving the excuse, "oh I THOUGHT it was empty" or "I could have SWORN I put it away!" JUST DO IT and then you don't have to make an excuse. Or teach your kids if they see it out, to just not touch it. I grew up with my family hunting, and I knew where the guns were, but I also knew that they were locked and if I were to see one out to just not touch it.

All about educating and parents taking responsibility.

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ANARIE Posts: 12,981
5/3/13 10:47 A

Here's a non-sensationalized report on the five-year-old who killed his sister with a gun MARKETED for small children.

I'm sorry. That's a crime. Those parents killed their baby girl.

A few years ago near San Antonio, TX, a mother left her 3 children in the car for a few minutes while she went into a friend's apartment to drop off some groceries. The kids, the oldest of whom was 7 or 8, found a bottle of lighter fluid and the car cigarette lighter and set themselves on fire. None of them died, but the mother is still in jail, because she left them alone with things that could end up being used in a deadly manner.

She left them alone with two things that the children had to find separately and put together, two things they had been told repeatedly not to play with, and two things that have other purposes. The Kentucky parents left their children alone with one thing, easily accessible, a thing that the older child had been GIVEN to play with, which had no other purpose. How is that not criminal negligence?

I don't understand how a company can be allowed to make and market functional firearms for children. We outlawed LAWN DARTS, for pete's sake. They had to make the Easy-Bake Oven safer because kids were getting blisters on their fingers. But they can sell actual rifles for pre-schoolers? This little boy was given the rifle when he was four. A four-year-old is too young to be trusted not to *swallow* his toys.Five-year-olds get blunt-tipped scissors in school so they won't cut themselves; they're not allowed to use the pointy ones until they're seven or eight. How do you expect a kindergartener to understand the responsibilities of a weapon?

I don't think a child should be allowed to handle a gun before they're old enough to be tried as an adult in court if they misuse it. If they're not old enough to be held legally responsible, they're not old enough to be responsible for something that can easily take a life. Certainly you shouldn't be allowed to shoot before you're old enough to drive; a gun is at least as big a responsibility as a car. Some parents choose to allow their children to drive before they're legally old enough. That's their right, but they accept the legal responsibility and can go to jail if the child driver harms someone. If you allow a child access to your keys and he hurts someone, you can go to jail and you definitely have to pay for any damage. It makes sense to say the same about guns.

GLITTERFAIRY77 Posts: 8,023
5/3/13 10:38 A

I read that article, and I have issues with my kids being allowed to use their dad's bb gun under his direct supervision! I don't like bb guns, let alone real guns.

BUNNYKICKS Posts: 2,410
5/3/13 10:18 A

I have a negative attitude towards guns in general. I question the notion that guns "make people safer" and that "honest citizens need guns because criminals will obtain guns regardless, and you have to fight fire with fire, you need to be able to protect yourself." I do not believe gun ownership does a darned thing to protect the average honest citizen. I had this debate with a friend just a couple days ago, actually... and we went through numerous recent news headlines, my position being "how did, or how could have, civilian gun *ownership* done anything to prevent this tragedy?" and his position being "how would gun *restriction* have prevented this tragedy" and we eventually came to a stalemate....

Kids with guns? Just no.

That said, my son very much wants to learn how to shoot both a rifle and a gun... but then again, he's aiming to enter law enforcement as a career, so, odds are good he'll get his wish sooner or later, no matter how Mom feels about it!

JLEMUS1 Posts: 4,054
5/3/13 10:10 A

I think educating kids and teaching them right from wrong is the way to go. My kids were around weapons their whole lives they respect them and know how to use them, I waited until they were 13 to start them shooting at a gun range but by then they had a whole lot of training in safety and respect for guns.

SHERYLDS Posts: 15,866
5/3/13 10:06 A

I hear a lot about needing guns to protect oneself...and one's property.
and I assume kids get that philosophy from their parents.

I'm just a naïve person originally from the Bronx
Don't they have police or sheriffs in the rest of the country?
Do they call the police or sheriffs when they have a problem or do they settle it themselves?
are kids taught to shoot to protect themselves?

ELISAJANE57 Posts: 748
5/3/13 10:02 A

I would never dream of giving my 4 year old a gun but it sounds like there are people in certain areas where it's common for kids to learn shooting at an early age. It's all about responsibility. That was a really heartbreaking story about that little girl who was shot by her 5 year old brother. It hits close to home because I could see my 4 year old shooting my 2 year old. Even if you are going to teach a child to shoot a gun at a young age doesn't mean that gun should be left out in the open propped up, loaded or not.

JGIRL5799 Posts: 561
5/3/13 9:38 A

This can go on forever, but it all boils down to common sense ..

If someone uses a gun and "forgets" to check or clean their guns after using them, that is misuse period.
There are all sorts of scenes to go through what if this or that, how come this or that, there can be tons of questions asked and not answered of those that have stupidity.

After it is all said and done, it is ultimately the parents responsibilities no matter what making sure things are taken care of, cleaned, locked up properly and put away.

Edited by: JGIRL5799 at: 5/3/2013 (09:39)
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MISSRUTH Posts: 4,125
5/3/13 9:32 A

I live south of what might be called the "Smith & Wesson line", way out in the country. Lots of people have guns, go hunting, have concealed carry permits, etc. I don't see guns as the problem. It's perhaps a lack of education and training in gun safety. And then even people who have taken the concealed carry training, become lax with how they carry/ store their guns. So many people keep their fully loaded handgun in the nightstand (no small kids in the house) or a shelf in the master bedroom closet (small kids in the house). Easy enough for a burglar to find the gun, or an older child to get the gun.

But there's no way to legislate against being stupid. You could make everyone take some sort of safety course before being allowed to buy a gun.... might cut down on some of the accidental shootings. But what about the mom whose son is somewhat of a social outcast, plays loads of violent video games, has a fascination with mass shootings-- and then she encourages shooting as a hobby for him, writes him a check so he can buy himself a gun. He amasses/ has access to an arsenal and one day you end up with Newtown.

The folks in the news recently, whose 5 year old accidentally killed his 2 year old sister-- seems as though the parents were attempting to teach him how to handle the gun they gave him, safely. But then they kept the gun propped up in a corner, and "didn't realize" there was still a shell in it. Only took a minute or two of mom not being in the same room, for the shooting to occur. Who checked the gun before "storing" it?

JGIRL5799 Posts: 561
5/3/13 9:31 A

Being an NRA member and highly gun enthusiast..We own multi weapons of guns, riffles and even one AK rifle..

We were highly into Civil War and Cowboy reenactments all the time.
Both my kids (now 21 and 16) have been handling guns since they were three.

I know its a huge privileged and its a huge knowledge for them to protect themselves if needed.

Now our hobbies include going out to the gun range and shooting targets, not only for fun but also for hunting.. they must know how to feed themselves as well if they had to go on survival mode...

For our wedding as a gift from the kids, they wanted to go out to do a 21 salute for my new hubby and I .. we let them.

It is one thing to "train" a kid and another just to handle guns loosely without training or just say here ya go.. they must be trained in all areas.. I refused for my children to even shoot until they were at least 7yrs old and at that time they had to re-tell me the rules, what was allowed, what was not, they had to prove they could load, unload, clean and put together the guns. They were cleaning guns by the time they were three years old..

You are only good as what you teach them and how you handle them..
I am a huge supporter of the second amendment and its how I train my kids as well.

Edited by: JGIRL5799 at: 5/3/2013 (09:33)
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5/3/13 9:25 A

Yes, but only after proper training. It is our right to own a gun.

SHERYLDS Posts: 15,866
5/3/13 8:50 A

Obviously ... I don't like guns

but we bombard our kids with gun violence in media and in games.
I'm not sure young minds fully understand the consequences of using a gun in reality.
And if they feel bullied or scared or angry...what could they do.
Kids can be very innovative in finding access to things.
I'm not sure hiding guns at home or making sure guns are safe and secure...
is always foolproof.
I have a friend who was an ex-cop who's house was robbed..
.robbers found the guns...and they found the bullets somewhere else.
imagine a smart 9 year old who listens and watches you every day.

do you always know if your child is having social issues at school or with other kids?

kids like to shoot at targets...are you sure they won't do target practice at a moving car? or an animal? or a person?

LIMIT81 Posts: 332
5/3/13 8:46 A

Yes, teaching them at an early age is the way to go. Don't lwet them find it on their own and start exploring what it can do.
Use common sense.

NIRERIN Posts: 13,454
5/3/13 8:31 A

first of all you have to remember that the most sensational headlines get the most attention and readers, so you can probably assume her statements were made with leading questions to get that kind of controversial quote.
secondly, if you have a firearm in the house, having your children be aware of it and how to properly handle it can be a good thing. when i was about 8 i learned to handle a bb gun [i'd already had sharp knives and fire tending duties for years at that point], and the general idea was enough to keep me away from actual firearms as i came across them. the younger you can get the basic ideas of gun safety across to children, the safer they will be. because the thing is that kids want to do the things that they see their parents doing. it's why little girls play dress up in their mother's heels. so choosing to educate them on how to handle a firearm is a better idea than letting them figure things out for themselves.

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5/3/13 8:24 A

This debate will go on forever, and logical responses don't seem to be useful. Therefore, I will simply answer the question: I have taught and will continue to teach hundreds of kids to respect and responsibly use firearms for hunting and sport shooting.

TRYINGHARD54 Posts: 5,288
5/3/13 8:23 A

a small child ? Absolutely not ! At one time there was a age limit. But the rules keep changing. My husband and I are gun owners. The guns are locked up . We use them for hunting and recreational use. When my child turned 12 he went hunting with us.. He went thru training before he handled a gun.. But he was never left alone. Parents need to use common sense when their are children around.. Guns should never ever be left laying around the house under any circumstances. This is my opinion.

FLIPCHICK14 Posts: 2,048
5/3/13 8:16 A

No, never...just my opinion

MARTYJOE Posts: 428
5/3/13 8:05 A

Education is the key. Teach a child that a firearm is not a toy and has to be respected. Too many times we hear about a child shooting someone by accident because they are playing with a gun like a toy. Parents need to be more careful in the proper storage and not letting a child have access to a gun without parental supervision. Just saying

AMARANTHA120S Posts: 474
5/3/13 8:02 A

Sorry, no way should a child even SEE a gun in their lives, much less handle one.

Just my opinion but it makes no sense to me that kids would handle guns.

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5/3/13 7:59 A

While I'd never carry a gun around with me, I'm all for responsible gun ownership and teaching kids how to respect firearms. My dad taught me how to shoot a shotgun when I was 10 and the summer after my freshman year of college we took a pistol training course together (min age was 18). Shooting is a skill that is valuable and the way I was taught to handle and respect guns has definitely made me more aware of my surroundings the same way learning to drive a manual made me a better driver.

The NRA pistol instructor who taught me and my dad always emphasized safety first and was one of the most responsible people I know. There is a big difference IMO between people who treat guns as tools to be used in very specific situations and people who look at them as status items (aka the most vocal part of the gun lobby). If we had universal background checks and required training classes before buying a gun, I think we'd be in a much better place.

Finally, I find it interesting that you chose to quote the most incendiary line in the *entire* article and based your post on that. What about:

"It is also my responsibility as a parent to first and foremost make sure my daughters don't have access to my guns at any time that I'm not with them supervising. Our guns at home are locked in safes that are behind doors that are also locked - and those locks are up high, out of the reach of a child."


"She raised me with the basic knowledge that a girl could safely protect herself by using all the tools in her “toolbox.” It's that vault of knowledge that sits on our shoulders, and when used properly, can give us awareness of our surroundings and a sense of when we are in danger."


"She is very proficient and smart about her safety. If you ask her what she can and can't shoot she will tell you: “I can't shoot people, pets, or TVs. But I can shoot at my target and at bugs.”"

and finally:

"But is she a gun crazy kid because her parents have them? Absolutely not! She has never physically touched a real gun at this point. Yet she is a child with the basic knowledge of what to do if she ever encounters a gun when her parents aren't around. She is learning her safety before I ever even take her to the range for the first time."

Frankly, it's not moms and dads like this woman that worry me. Its the parents who don't teach their kids to respect guns the same way you respect the power of a knife in the kitchen or a car on the road.

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5/3/13 7:54 A

I am all for the responsible use of guns, by adults. I am tired of seeing articles about kids shooting and killing each other with guns left sitting out in the open because "someone thought it was unloaded but there was a bullet in the chamber" or "they didn't realize there was a shell left in there". Sick of it. Guns and kids don't belong in the same sentence.

ELMA1913 Posts: 5,051
5/3/13 7:50 A

No way!

SHERYLDS Posts: 15,866
5/3/13 7:33 A

I read an article today that really Scares me.

“When I go to the grocery store, I grab my car keys, my purse and I put on my holster. Yes, I am a mom with a gun………..I'm a woman who wears jewelry made out of ammo.” Read more

Now …personally I question the judgement of someone with that mindset.
The attitude that someone automatically arms themselves …against who?
Some people might call that paranoia.
And if they do ‘defend’ themselves…do You trust their judgement?
Or did they perceive that they were threatened and shoot?
What if she is bi-polar? Anger management issues? Prejudice?
Do you Still trust her judgement?
we have legal authorities to handle crime.
We even have trials with a judge and jury of peers to determine guilt.
Then why question the incidents where kids go to schools with guns
And kill classmates.


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