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PSCHIAVONE2
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1/7/13 5:23 A

I have read one of the books and the conclusion I have come to is that if the fat your eating is healthy fat. Then eat the full fat version. Unfortunately, I have not found a processed food with healthy fat. I eat about 30% of my calories from fat and I hear that is bad. Most of my fat comes from Salmon, Avocado, Olive oil, and other fatty fishes. I try to limit beef and pork. Lets face it those saturated fats taste too good to completely eliminate.



ALANAF_27
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1/7/13 12:41 A

I've read both books. I think his main point is to eat as many un-processed foods and as few chemicals, GMOs and artificial ingredients as possible. So I think when choosing whether or not to eat a low-fat, low cal (etc) product versus the real thing it really comes down to reading and understanding what is on the ingredient list and making the healthiest choice based on that.



MISSRUTH
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1/6/13 8:10 A

I just read the Food Rules. Going back to your original question-- I think it would depend (choosing low fat or full fat yogurt) on whether the fat was just removed from the milk originally used to make the yogurt -- you can make yogurt from whole milk, 2%, etc. And have they added anything "odd" to the ingredients, to compensate for less creaminess, due to less fat. My grandmother would recognize "skim milk" in the grocery store (another example he uses) so I don't think just the removal of fat from milk, automatically makes it against "the rules". Cheese is a whole different story, as already discussed in this thread.

So basically full fat or low fat yogurt, probably would just be a personal preference thing.

I agree wholeheartedly with his rules, about cooking/making things yourself. Especially the part about fried chicken and desserts and snack foods (chips, ice cream etc)-- we'd eat them a whole lot less, if we only had them when we made them from scratch, ourselves. I do have to disagree with the rule about only eating food that will rot-- brown rice and dried beans are probably "good" practically forever.



CREATIVECALICO
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1/5/13 6:51 P

I agree 100% of eating small portions of REAL food. You enjoy it more and it keeps you feeling full longer. I also don't know what all of those chemicals do to your insides....



PRAISECHEESES
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1/5/13 3:56 P

FP4HLOSER, thank you so much!!! I have been naggin family and friends to read this book, so this is great. It's an easy half hour read. :)



COUNTRY_QT
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1/5/13 3:27 P

I don't think that you need to deprive yourself, but making healthy substitutions is very helpful. As an example, instead of eating a huge steak with buttery sauces, try some fish or chicken with salsa. I also often use egg whites rather than the whole egg.

I try to cook with as many fresh produce items as possible/ make things from scratch, and this usually helps me avoid eating "low fat" items. ANYTHING that is processed, low fat or not, is probably not that great for you.

That being said, I have found some low fat things that I like (yogurt brands, spreads) and eat every once in a while when I'm too lazy to cook :-)



FP4HLOSER
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1/5/13 2:15 P

Found this when I did a search. This has the "rules". This is very good and I agree with most of what is said!

www.healthmantra.com/food_guide.pdf



STARSHINEFL
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1/5/13 11:58 A

I agree with MISSRUTH - if you're eating fat-free versions of fatty foods thinking they're healthier even though they don't taste good - stop. If you like the full-fat version, eat a small portion.

Personally, I don't like the taste or mouth-feel of extremely fatty, creamy foods. So I eat reduced-fat yogurt, sour cream, mayo, ice cream, salad dressing (saves calories and I like them best). However, for most cheeses, I'd rather have the full-fat version. I don't like any fat-free versions except for skim milk.

Edited by: STARSHINEFL at: 1/5/2013 (11:59)


HAPPENINGFISH
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1/5/13 11:30 A

I haven't read it either, but I gave up on most reduced-calorie versions of everything long ago.

Anything that's got artificial sweetener in I just don't trust, and I only need a teaspoon of sugar in my coffee (16 calories. Nobody's gonna fight me over 16 calories).

As for fats, I use butter and olive oil mostly in cooking. I use bacon, just less of it than I used to. I try to use large portions of veggies so I feel more full, but I just can't be arsed to cook ultra low-fat, and since 90% of what I eat is stuff I cook from scratch, I know what's going in there anyway. When it comes to milk and yogurt, I mostly go by taste... although flavoured yogurt tends to have a bunch of sugar in - I buy the plain stuff and sweeten it myself.

I dunno, any "food" that was invented in the last 60 years I don't trust all that much. That goes for everything from pop-tarts to cheesestrings. Although I do like cheesestrings. I personally think eating the right portions of less processed foods and more "natural" fat levels sounds absolutely wise.



MISSRUTH
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1/5/13 10:04 A

I have not read that book. However, I would say that Spark says, anything in moderation. So basically, we can all pick and choose what we eat.

For example, I mostly eat "full fat" cheese. I just don't like low fat cheese, and fat-fee is NOT cheese, it has tons of stuff in it to make it look like cheese but it is not cheese. Part-skim mozarella is okay, if I'm going to use it in a recipe. But if I'm just going to eat a piece of cheese, I want cheese, not a "cheese-like product". For yogurt, I prefer nonfat "regular" not Greek, although I will admit that the full fat stuff tastes better. For milk, we use 2% in our hh; DH won't touch skim and I hate the taste of full fat. And forget "fat free half and half"! For goodness sake, "fat free" totally destroys the very definition of half and half!

So it then becomes a matter of watching my portion sizes carefully and also being careful when I track my calories for the day. A person can eat larger portions if they're using the low-fat or fat-free. And the fat grams eaten per day can add up quickly-- many people may have trouble keeping their fat grams within the recommended daily allowance, and therefore lower fat or fat free options could be just the ticket for them.



SHERRYWILSON
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1/5/13 10:00 A

I think that is a great question I say do the eat full but less what I would do if that's what your diet recommends my dr. Says the other foods with calorie free or low calories has a bunch of bad stuff in it to make you crave sugar you are more likely to eat more sugar if you use the low fat or fat free foods we have enough issues on our own we don't need any extra help right with food cravings



PRAISECHEESES
Posts: 148
1/5/13 9:40 A

Has anyone else here read Food Rules or In Defense of Food by Michael Pollan? I am trying to follow his food rules, and the books both make a lot of sense. However, I notice that Sparkpeople keeps encouraging me to use low fat or reduced fat versions of foods, which goes exactly counter to Pollan's food rules. Wouldn't it be better for me to eat the right portions of full fat foods than to eat larger portions of low or reduced fat foods? So for example, having 1/2 cup of whole Greek yogurt instead of a full cup of fat free yogurt?



 
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