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MEGAPEEJ Posts: 732
1/23/14 7:11 P

1500ish calories is probably not enough calories for a man of his height/weight. Heck, it's not even enough for me, and I'm a 5'10" female - I'm hungry on anything less than about 1650, and generally aim for closer to 1900. My DH is also 5'10", he eats over 2k daily.

In general, if your body is saying you're hungry - you should feed your body.

FTSOLK Posts: 1,392
1/23/14 6:19 P

On day 2, he ate around 1,575 calories excluding fruit and vegetables.

125 grams carbs
83 grams fat
86 grams protein
19 grams fiber

I can't figure out day 1 since I don't know what salad he had (and Cheesecake Factory doesn't share nutritional information).

Neither of us track on Sparkpeople because the database is lacking accurate data, and we both track on Weight Watchers.

I still have no idea how much produce he ate though.

1/23/14 5:37 P

So I guess your question is...Why is my friend experiencing extreme hunger?

Could be related to:
--calorie intake
--protein intake
--fiber intake
--not enough high volume, low calorie food like: fruits and veggies, broth based soups, low calorie salads, etc

A personal SP account needs to be set up so needs can be determined based on the person's weight plan, daily activity and exercise.
Unless food is measured and tracked; you do not have the data you need to determine the cause or causes of hunger.

Your SP Registered Dietitian Nutritionist

EELPIE Posts: 2,700
1/23/14 5:19 P

Have you tired putting these things into your tracker to get totals for the 2 days?

Do the math for him - I've no idea of the totals here - this could 1,100 calories, this could be 2,300 calories. Only way to know is if someone sits and enters these foods.

FTSOLK Posts: 1,392
1/23/14 5:13 P

Bunny- We both thought that, perhaps, a food diary post (since he doesn't track on Sparkpeople) would be a good idea, but he didn't feel like typing it all up, so I agreed to do it for him. I was not aware that he had a thread going.

Although, I could be talking about an entirely different friend.

BUNNYKICKS Posts: 2,433
1/23/14 4:15 P

Why are you posting "on behalf" of your friend, when he already has his own thread running?

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1/23/14 4:05 P

The first thing that strikes me is that breakfast is only 140 calories. Assuming a dinner eaten around 7, that's a fast of 12+ hours that he's breaking with less than 200 calories. I'd add something like oatmeal to get the total closer to 300 calories. Also, the snacks are a bit on the carby side, maybe moving towards something like cheese or nuts might be helpful in staying full longer.

FTSOLK Posts: 1,392
1/23/14 3:57 P

Now, I am posting this on behalf of my friend while he's at work (since it's just easier for me to type this up right now).

He is 22 years old, around 5' 10" and weighs over 200 pounds (he's lost about 15 pound or so). Currently, he works at a grocery store 5-6 days a week (on his feet, moving around most of the day).

We're both doing Weight Watchers together, but over the past couple weeks, his hunger has been out of control. When eats a meal, it feels like he hasn't eaten in hours, and we're trying to figure out why.

Now, he is not super skilled in the kitchen (and also dislikes dealing with raw meat, etc.) and between that and working 40+ hours a week, he often doesn't feel like he has the time/energy to cook meals from scratch.

Because WW does not count fruit/veggies (they are 0 points), he doesn't track them, but I know he likes things like baby carrots, bananas, grapefruit, oranges, etc.

Day 1

2 Hard Boiled Eggs

Store made Chef Salad
1/2 package of pretzel M&Ms (chocolate craving)

Cheesecake Factory Warm Asparagus Salad
Cheesecake Factory Skinnyicious Pasta Ragu

2 cups 479 Degree Sea Salt Caramel Popcorn
1 Deep Chocolate Vitamuffin

Day 2:

2 Hard Boiled Eggs

Healthy Choice Ravioli Florentine Marinara
Campbells Soup at Hand Chicken and Stars

Panera Chopped Chicken Cobb salad with Avocado

Ideal Protein Soy Crisps
1 Package Black and White Cookies from Starbucks
Venti Unsweetened Iced Tea Lemonade from Starbucks

Off the top of my head, I feel the biggest problems are a lot of convenience/processed foods AND some of the meal timing. I know that he gets to work at 6:30/7AM, but often doesn't eat breakfast until his first break after 10AM. I also know that he really doesn't have time to have more than a protein shake in the morning (he can't bring himself to get up any earlier than he already does). He is still hungry around the same time whether he drinks the protein shake or not, so he usually just skips it.

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