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MARIA1999_MAN SparkPoints: (10,472)
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3/22/10 6:07 P

Nutritionists say that you need to cover all groups to stay healthy.

RAINBOWOLF Posts: 107
3/22/10 5:07 P

The fruitarian diet includes grains, nuts, and seeds; any food that is 'given', such as an apple on a tree.

I've had very good results following a fruitarian diet, and it is my goal to get back on one once the orchard and veggie bed matures a bit.

My advice would be to include more nuts, seeds, and pulses rather than the starchy veg like potatoes. Beans and legumes have protein in them as well as carbs; a win / win situation.

You might enjoy sprouting, too. We have a small kitchen sprouter that we really love using for fresh sprouts. Not just for salads, either! We put them on sandwiches, sprinkle them in soups, and dehydrate them to make 'crackers'.

Good luck with your endeavor!
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STCFILLY SparkPoints: (13,110)
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3/22/10 5:05 P

i'm a vegetarian.

i get plenty of protein.

you don't need as much as the food pyramid says. it is influenced by the meat industry. they got letters from meat producers when they tried lowering it. saying they were 'favoring a vegetarian lifestyle' and 'implying that meat is unhealthy' so, they left it as is.

you can absolutely get enough fat (from nuts) and protein from fruits and veggies (if beans are included, as others have pointed out).

i take a b12 supplement and on days when i don't get enough calcium or iron i take a multi-vitamin. you can also eat protein bars or whatever if you're that worried about the protein aspect of it. i do that sometimes.

Edited by: STCFILLY at: 3/22/2010 (17:06)
JAM4507 Posts: 53
3/22/10 5:04 P

If you're only eliminating meat/dairy/eggs, it's definitely a workable idea, but you need to learn how to combine protein sources and potentially take a daily supplement (whole-food based) to take care of any deficiencies. I'm sure that a search of Spark & Google would turn up a lot of good advice-just make sure it's an RD giving the advice, not some self-proclaimed expert.

LETOVERN Posts: 2,603
3/22/10 4:52 P

It would probably satisfy most of the necessary nutrients [if you count beans and other legumes as vegetables], but I think you'd have a hard time staying satified. You'd need more fat. Adding nuts and oils would help.

BLUEPLATE Posts: 647
3/22/10 2:17 P

Personally, I think that I'd miss the *feel* of other foods--the texture of grains, the dry crunch of granola or crackers, and creaminess of dairy...

I mean, I realize that health-wise it's all about the nutrients, but it's the diversity of sensation that I'd miss.

ITSASTOUNDING Posts: 521
3/22/10 1:49 P

I'd like to add, I'm not necessarily planning on doing this, because I think I'd last probably an hour and then grab some granola. I'd fail, hard. It was really just a question sort of lingering in my brain, so I figured I'd ask.

GERAPTIKO Posts: 1,740
3/21/10 10:31 P

@ITSASTOUNDING:
If this works for you then I think you should try it! I tried it but lasted only 2 days at the max but have tried several times since then.
The protein: Other than beans, if you can find a way to eat this way & get enough protein please email me on SP or leave a comment on my Sparkpage! I know you can get fats from veggies & fruits but I don't know how to get protein eating this way other than eating beans/lentils, & I don't want to eat those every day. Thanks!

Edited by: GERAPTIKO at: 3/21/2010 (22:32)
MUSIC2HISEARS SparkPoints: (45,644)
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3/21/10 10:15 P

The book of Daniel talks about a 10 day diet like this...only 10 days:

Daniel then said to the guard whom the chief official had appointed over Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael and Azariah, 12 "Please test your servants for ten days: Give us nothing but vegetables to eat and water to drink. 13 Then compare our appearance with that of the young men who eat the royal food, and treat your servants in accordance with what you see." 14 So he agreed to this and tested them for ten days.

SCUBATELLY Posts: 419
3/21/10 9:29 P

I don't know how healthy it is, I feel I need all the food groups, but that's just me. Also, as I would suffer low blood sugar on that diet, I would not be able to do it without eating too many nuts!

My sister ate raw vegan for a couple of months, to see how she did on it. She ate fruits, veggies, and nuts, I don't know about legumes, if they're eatible uncooked. She had lots of energy, slept better, and lost her IBS and skin problems, but she did lots of research about how to eat that way, and even knowing she ran optimally that way, it's very hard for her to stick to that way of eating. You'd have to eat lots of fruits and veggies to get your daily requirements. As for protein, even lettuce and kale have some, but you have to eat a lot to get it!

MUSIC2HISEARS SparkPoints: (45,644)
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3/21/10 8:12 P

If you are adding a true vegan diet, you'd need to add beans and legumes to your diet, and maybe some protein rich grains like quinoa. Even peanut butter is a healthy protein (plant based). You could add it to apples and celery or carrots to add a bit more calories, too. A friend of mine is a true vegan and her doctor monitors her B12 levels since her protein sources don't contain the proper amounts. I have to take a B12 vitamin daily, so that would be an option, too. Plus, DieticianBecky is one of the best sources of information here on this board! I'd trust anything she says.

MEGANE2007 SparkPoints: (23,168)
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3/21/10 8:02 P

You may be getting adequate carbs and fiber, but you won't get near enough fat, protein, and overall calories. Plus, you also be missing out on other necessary nutrients. There's a reason we eat a wide variety of food-no one food group is able to give us all the fuel our bodies need! This may work for a day or two but after a while, I'd be concerned you wouldn't have enough energy to make it through the day.

Why not add in some lean meats like chicken or turkey and whole grains like brown rice or wheat bread?

DIETITIANBECKY Posts: 26,699
3/21/10 7:57 P

Are you counting legumes, beans as veggies?
What about nuts and seeds??

I think you would find yourself LOW on many nutrients. Plug in what you think would be a typical day intake into our SP food tracker...I imagine you will find yourself low in many areas. Track for calories, protein, fat, carbs, zinc, iron, thiamin, riboflavin, niacin, calcium...
Dietitian Becky

NIRERIN Posts: 12,032
3/21/10 7:33 P

look at some vegan diets. fruits and veggies are good for the majority of your diet, but you also need to be including nuts and seeds for protein, and olive oil [or just olives], and probably some grains too.
because while you can get pretty much everything you need from fruits and veggies it takes eating pounds and pounds of them a day to get what you need. i believe dean ornish is the doc who does this. and he supervises his patients, and they eat nuts and seeds as well.

JAIME-LYNN SparkPoints: (19,533)
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3/21/10 7:26 P

Have you tried doing up a sample menu and puting it in your tracker?

2PERSEVERE Posts: 257
3/21/10 7:26 P

Are you talking about a true vegetarian diet? That is considered healthy.

Why don't you set your menu preferences to vegetarian and see what shows up? Look at the break down of the food listed.

I agree you need to add some grains in.

SUMSUMS SparkPoints: (12,204)
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3/21/10 7:25 P

if you tracked what you were eating, and it worked out fine for all your nutritional needs, then go for it.

MEAGANF05 Posts: 87
3/21/10 7:24 P

I have tried it before and I wasn't starving. I didn't like it though because I got a lot of cravings which I figured was because my body needed more protein and other nutrients. I would say if you workout a lot and lift weights, you are going to need to eat lean protein and have some milk.

But hey, I know Vegans that dont have meat or dairy and they make it just find. It's a arguable topic for sure!

JAIME-LYNN SparkPoints: (19,533)
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3/21/10 7:23 P

I'm not suggesting sooo much protein, but ONLY consuming fruits and vegetables wouldn't provide much at all. I would suggest adding some higher protein grains like quinoa.

ITSASTOUNDING Posts: 521
3/21/10 7:21 P

There are lots of nutritionists that would argue that you get plenty of grams of protein from fruit and vegetables alone, so I sort of question that.

As for fat, one avocado alone provides around 20 grams of healthy fats. So again, I feel like even that doesn't seem like an issue.

ASHBUG124 Posts: 752
3/21/10 7:20 P

You would have to find a way to get b-12. Other than that it would be probably the healthiest diet on the planet....people have these insane ideas about needing sooo much protein when there are rarely protein deficiencies in modern countries. If you are getting enough calories and having some heart healthy fats (which you can get through olives and avocados) you would be great.

JAIME-LYNN SparkPoints: (19,533)
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3/21/10 7:17 P

I agree with the last poster, it would hardly be any protein.

KLUTZE01 Posts: 39
3/21/10 7:15 P

or fat

ZORBS13 SparkPoints: (105,370)
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3/21/10 7:10 P

You definitely wouldn't be getting enough protein.

ITSASTOUNDING Posts: 521
3/21/10 7:03 P

I was just sort of thinking. Would it be unhealthy to only consume fruits and vegetables? Of course, I'm including starchy vegetables like corn and potatoes. Doing this I know you'd be getting protein, some fats, lots of fiber, and a decent amount of carbohydrates. I'm having a hard time finding anything terribly wrong with it.

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