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ONNALEE11 SparkPoints: (2,146)
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10/16/12 7:13 P
Coach Nancy said this already, but I just wanted to say it again. I read an article on SP just the other day that said basically if you aren't eating at least the recommended minimum calories, your body goes into "starvation mode" and your metabolism slows way down, and you don't lose any fat. With the amount of calories you're burning over the amount you are consuming, I wouldn't be surprised if that might not be part of the problem.
One suggestion would be to use the SP weight loss tracker, and consume at least the minimum calories of your range, and to exercise only as much as it tells you to do for the week. Try it for 2-3 weeks, and see if that does anything to speed up your metabolism.
HACKETT1171 SparkPoints: (1,952)
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10/16/12 12:16 P
WOW! we should start our own group! I too do the right thing, exercise almost daily and don't see any difference except an expanding waist line, thighs and arm flab. I have gone to the endocrinologist and she said my thyroid was fine. Just because it may fall in the standard doesn't mean its not messed up. I think its hypothyroid too. same symptoms you mentioned. I have body dismorphia and am also a victim of sexual abuse as child, sexual assault and rape. I have felt for a long time that it never really effected me, but it is.
I dont want to wear regular clothes, I want to wear my gym/sweat clothes all day and have no interest in shopping. It causes anxiety to think about having to but clothes. I did WW 2 years ago and dropped 18 lbs in 7 months. it was the thinnest I have ever been in my life and the weight just crept back up in the past 2 years, my body fat increased along with my thighs and other areas. I sob uncontrollably at times and I even cry while I am working out because its in front of the mirrors!
I am seeing a specialist for all of my issues at this point. I have BM issues and one big thing is I AM NEVER HUNGRY! I eat to eat because I have to. I am so tired of being unhappy and feeling like a whale.
I understand your feelings
OTTOLOVE Posts: 247
10/16/12 12:09 P
Wow ! Excellent responses. I too am frustrated with no weight loss after much work. Way to go all who responded! It helped me! Thank all of you for caring about someone you have never met or don't know.
JHITCHCOC Posts: 113
10/16/12 7:32 A
Speaking to the ED you mentioned, I hear you. I am 5'8" and was obsessed with weighing 100lbs. With much discipline and obsession I managed to get down to 109lbs. I got on that scale several times a day to make SURE I did not go over 109lbs. And my continued goal was to get under 100lbs. I wanted to weigh 100lbs on the the doctor's scale with clothes on.
This insanity led to a very bad problem with alcohol. Anonymous 12 step programs saved my life and restored me to sanity.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
However, I still have this unaddressed eating disorder. Why was I obsessed with weighing 100lbs?
You know how they say "layers of the onion". For me, there was a reason. It lay in not resolving a long time abuse issue that glorified me staying a little girl.
My approach had been, ignore it, didn't happen. But it did happen. I happened everyday and it happened for years and years.
Working out a resentment inventory (again the 12 step program) and working through a forgiveness helped me to also forgive myself.
Thus able to not self-sabotage. To be truly honest about amounts and look at my food and exercise plan objectively.
I too am past menopause and I can not eat as much as I used to be able to. I too burn ALOT of exercise calories. I usually run 35 miles a week plus weight train. I too eat 1500 calories a day or less. I too, did not see weight loss.
If suddenly ate more I gained weight. I think it is called "refeeding syndrone". I was literally starving myself so when I ate a few hundred calories I gained weight.
So I started adding like 50 calories a day for a few weeks. I carefully measure and weigh. I am finally and very slowly seeing some weight loss.
Whatever you do, do not give up on yourself. You are worth it.
MANDI_BEAR202 SparkPoints: (5,565)
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10/16/12 6:49 A
I too am having problems with this. I have not always been 100 percent on track, but overall I have tried to stay healthy and active. I have lost a few pounds here and there, but I always come right back up to my current weight. I had my son almost 2 years ago. I had the same problem before pregnancy, but was 30 pounds lighter. I lost weight right after having him (back to my usual) but this was a rapid transition (all in 6 months after having him). So of course I packed back on all the weight plus some. I do have a problem with portion control. This is what I need to work on Otherwise, I feel like I'm doing a lot of things right.
I've been trying to lose weight for a long time, but just recently joined sparkpeople...I have altered the way I am eating more. I do the best I can for being on the road a lot and dealing with frequent schedule changes (swaping from days and nights). I have been to the doctor in the past. My sparkpeople logs indicate that for the most part I'm between 1200 and 1500 cal per day and I burn way more calories than "my weekly goal" is set for. I exercise daily. I do a wide range of excerises cardio, strength, and things like yoga for relaxing/meditating and leveling out. I use diff equipment, dumbells, ball, indoor, outdoor, change up routines, intensity, and legnths of workouts.... You name it I've tried it.
It's frustrating working so hard at this and for so long. Hang in there. Reading others posts is encouraging (even just knowing that other people are sharing the same difficulties). Keep tweeking things, and keep going. I hope you stay motivated, and know that if you keep trying and nothing happens, you can be proud at the fact that you tried!
Edited by: MANDI_BEAR202 at: 10/16/2012 (07:06)
OMG -- you sound JUST like me! I've been steadily increasing my workouts and have tried months at 1400 calories (weight gain), 1200 calories (no change), and less than 1000 calories (doctor monitored -- for a weight loss of maybe 3 pounds a month).
I've in surgical menopause and supplementing back estrogen. I'm hypothyroid and my family practitioner sent me to an endocrinology practice, and all three doctors said I'm "balanced" and that my symptoms (freezing cold but with concurrent hot flushes, insomnia, inability to lose weight, dry skin and hair, and several others that are standard low estrogen/low thyroid symptoms). The advice I got: "Eat less and exercise more." (Sound familiar?!)
In 30 months, I've lost 26 pounds; none over the last six months, in fact, I'm gaining at the rate of about a pound a week at the moment despite adding strength training. My waist is EXACTLY THE SAME after losing 26 pounds -- my hips are a little smaller and thighs much smaller, meaning that instead of filling out my jeans, I'm buying nearly the same size and they are baggy. I actually prefer my old weight because clothes fit normally.
I'm eating SO much more produce to my diet and removed almost all traces of dessert, bread, and red meat because I just don't get the nutritional bang for the buck from those foods. I make nearly every meal from scratch and serve from measuring cups and scales. I'm exercising more and more -- I've added running, cycling, and now strength training at the gym. I just joined a Wellness Center, and I'm going to try meeting with the nutritionist there -- hopefully with better results than we've both had! I had one tell me that I couldn't POSSIBLY be gaining weight on 1200 calories -- it's far too little. Then she told me that ALL people actually eat MORE than they think because packaged food has 10-20% more calories than listed. OK, so she's saying that I'm really eating 1320-1440 calories (never mind that I don't use a lot of prepackaged foods)? OK, by her logic, shouldn't I be in a proper range and still losing weight??
I don't have any words of wisdom or magic advice. But I do know what you're going through and want you to know you're not alone! Can I hide in your house with you???
Just one thought crossed my mind - you mention your fitness trainer being your Dietitian (I really LIKE that mix :-) and you also indicate that you have been seeing her from well before coming on to SP. My suggestion is this - use your Nutrition Tracker, weighing ALL of your food for increased accuracy, and then take some printouts from your Daily Report (the tab on the right near the bottom of the main Nutrition Tracker page) for your Dietitian to peruse. THIS is what helped me and my Dietitian immensely. She will get a lot better idea of your problems from that and be able to give you better qualified input!
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I am not a dietitian, however, if you only eating 1400-1500 calories a day and are expending 4600 calories a week, it could be that you are not eating enough to sustain normal biological functions, much less having the calories to build/maintain lean body mass.
While I can only imagine your frustration, if you are seeing a RD and 3 endocrinologists for your issue, they are really the ones in the best position to offer you guidance. If you feel you are not getting the results you want, you may want to find other dietitian or endocrinologist.
It's very difficult for our for our members and experts to offer advice on these types of issues, especially when one is receiving medical/dietary advice from professionals who are in the best position to give you specific care.
WAVEWENCH1 SparkPoints: (6,100)
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10/3/12 11:52 A
I went off BC in May and haven't had a period YET. I have no estrogen. I don't get TOMs. I haven't lost an ounce in TWO YEARS or doing all the right stuff, trying different workouts after three months of the old one not working, keeping my diet healthy..doing everything I'm told. TWO YEARS.
I want t lose 15- 20 lbs..no, really, I don't care about scale #'s. I want to lose inches and bodyfat.
Edited by: WAVEWENCH1 at: 10/3/2012 (11:53)
ARCHIMEDESII SparkPoints: (153,478)
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10/3/12 11:39 A
What you're experiencing really IS perfectly normal. This is not the Biggest Loser. the weight doesn't magically drop off the minute we decide we need to lose. While a safe weekly weight loss would be 1-2 pounds per week, there may be weeks you don't lose. There may even be weeks you gain !! And that doesn't mean you're doing anything wrong.
How could a woman's pants get tighter when she is eating right and getting some regular exercise ? Easy, bloating. Ever notice your weight goes up during TOM ? Most women tend to "gain" weight during their menstrual cycle. Is that a fat gain ? Nope, it's nothing more than a temporary water weight gain that passes in a few weeks. You may even notice that pants that are normally comfortable can be awfully tight during our period.
Another cause of bloating and swelling ? Intense exercise. When a person exercises intensely, their muscle fibers soak up water like a sponge. this is what they are supposed to do. your muscles will release any excess water they don't need once they've adapted to the new routine. So, if you've increased the amount of exercise you did this week, the swelling from your muscles retaining water is another possible reason your pants are tight.
So when is the pay off ? while we'd all love for the weight to be gone overnight, just like on the Biggest Loser. Those types of dramatic changes are just not typical. Weight loss really is a slow steady process that takes time. You didn't gain the weight overnight. it's not coming off overnight.
You need to be patient with yourself and your body. because some changes can be very small and very subtle. Someone who is morbidly obese might see a big drop in their first week. However, the closer a person is to a healthy weight for their height, the harder and longer it takes to lose any perceived excess.
So, don't assume you're doing something wrong because you didn't lose any weight this week. Ask any member trying to lose those last 5-10 pounds and they'll tell you it's slow going.
The fact is, if you ARE seeing increases in your strength, endurance, energy, etc... those ARE all signs that you are improving your overall health. When will the scale move ? Hard to say, but my advice would be to avoid the scale for a while. there really is more to good health than a number that stares at us from between our toes in the morning.
How much are you trying to lose ? As I mentioned earlier, someone trying to lose those last 5-10 pounds really will have a hard time losing them. It's not impossible, it just won't happen in a week or two or even a month.
Patience, it's a virtue.
WAVEWENCH1 SparkPoints: (6,100)
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10/3/12 10:43 A
Some days I get up, look at myself in the mirror, get dressed, notice that NOTHING HAS HAPPENED although I'm doing everything all the experts are telling me...and I just don't want anyone to see me.
OK, I'm really doing everything I've been told. When do I get the payoff? Could I maybe lose, say, two inches? Could I maybe feel my pants are looser, rather than the other way around?
How can someone who burned 4600 calories last week with cardio and weights and ate an average of 1400- 1500 of lean meats, veggies, fruit, whole grains and healthy fats-all in the proper balance- calories a day every day of that week NOT lose? How is it I feel my pants are TIGHTER?
I had eating disorders AFTER I got in shape the right way. I quit COLD TURKEY two years ago, understood I would gain recovery weight but was told "It will even off in a year or so, and you'll be able to lose it properly". I go to a Registered Dietician who is also a fitness trainer. I have done everything she has told me. Nothing. NOthing but gain.
I have seen three endorcineologists, gotten on levothyroxine for hypothyroidism, suppsoedly am "balanced". Nothing. All endocrineologists told me "eat less and exercise" which is silly, since even in recovery I was undereating and exercising to the upper limit.
COuntless blood tests, now I have found I have low Estrogen. Went to a UCLA 'specialist" who contradicted her OWN RD withing ten minutes, told me to alternate cardio for 10 minutes with wieghts (which didn't work EITHER) and then told me all beand have 100 calories per TABLESPOON and that a tablespoon was the same thing as a half cup. It's laughable.
Now, going on Sparkpeople, I fund I was UNDEREATING fat and carbs and calories. (odd my dietician missed that for TWO YEARS). So I am working to keep it all balanced and eat what I should. It's been, say 3 week. and I think I've gotten fatter.
Scales are things I now only let my RD use, since I got to the point of weighing myself twice a day at my worst. I go by how my clothse fit and how I look in the mirror. It ain't good.
I'm NOT severely obese, but I SHOULD, by my nutrition and fitness, look lean and toned. I don't. I have fat deposits on my thighs, a double belly, no ankles, huge calves and a fat face. I have asked about Cushing's, but non of the many experts I've seen believe I have it, because I don't fit the physical profile.
This is madness, I'm ready to just give up and hide in my house or worse. The same people who saw me lose weight properly on weight watchers, then get too skinny with ED are now seeing me gorw bigger. People who haven't seen me in a while always do a noticeable double-take. Some of my PE students make fun of my ankles. Dressing up to go out and buying clothes used to be fun. Now I'm terrified of "date night" becuase I ahte how I look in anything, old or new. Clothes shopping is Hell.
But I'm doing EVERYTHING RIGHT. I'm strong. I can curl two 20 pounders, no problem. I can do an intense spin class in great form and laugh at the end. I LOVE to be active and enjoy the flavor of healthy food.
SO why the punishment?