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JUDY1260 Posts: 1,567
7/21/13 2:45 P

Unless your trainer is educated in nutrition (as in has a degree) I'd find someone else to work with. All this business of going back and forth with foods depending on what day it is is garbage and is just going to screw up your metabolism. Fad diets do not work.

The best thing you can do is fire the trainer and stop following diet plans. Eat sensible meals that include veggies and protein, drink plenty of fluids, get enough sleep, some sunshine and exercise. Consume enough healthy calories to support the weight you want to be and your activity level. You can lose weight without falling into the fad diet trap. It may take awhile if you've messed up your metabolism but if you're patient it'll happen.

RUSSELL_40 Posts: 16,826
7/21/13 2:31 P

Besides trace amounts of protein and fat, most vegetables are almost completely carbs. You would say that they are carbs, the same as you might say the chicken is a protein. Almost nothing is 100% of one macronutrient. They are a combination of all 3, but if you were going to define things by labeling them one macronutrient, then vegetables would definitely be a carb.

They are the best carbs to eat, and should be a large amount of your carb intake.

MRSAND Posts: 1,600
7/21/13 1:24 P

I completely agree with justeatrealfood!

I started losing when I cut out processed foods. I considered pasta and bread processed. I just feel better and am not hungry when I get my carbs from veggies and fruits. You can eat huge quantities of low cal veggies and stay within your calorie range. I stay around a 45 carb/30 fat/25protein ratio. Most fat from fish, nuts, avocado, olive oil. Protein from fish, chicken, egg whites, greek yogurt.


7/21/13 10:24 A

Veggies are carbs and the best source of carbs IMO.

I personally split my plate 1/2 low starch veggies, 1/4 meat, 1/4 starchy vegetable with a good amount of fat with each meal.

I think the first thing a person should try and do to achieve good health is cut out as much processed food as possible. Limiting sugar is always a good idea.

Overall I am not a fan of your trainers diet plan.

MISSRUTH Posts: 4,196
7/21/13 9:33 A

To answer your "topic" question-- yes veggies count as carbs. Some veggies are higher-carb. Think corn, potatoes, peas. Some are low carb (also referred to as low-starch) like broccoli, leafy greens, summer squash, green beans etc.

Personally I disagree with eliminating whole food groups from a diet unless there's a medical reason to do so. I also disagree with having a person who *probably* does not have any kind of degree in nutrition, telling me to eliminate whole food groups. Where is the science, to back up what this person told you? Exactly where did they go to school, to learn that that's a good idea?

I took a quick peek at your nutrition tracker. It doesn't appear that you're tracking all your food-- you may be using a site other than Spark though, to track your food. I'd suggest starting off by tracking every single thing you eat. I'd have to say that the number one most helpful thing with my weight loss, was tracking everything I ate. The number two most important thing was cutting back on anything that was "empty calories". Cookies, candy, chips, etc. Sure, it's okay to have a treat now and then. But when you're trying to lose, you need to be sure you're meeting your minimum calorie range with good solid healthy choices so you provide your body with the nutrition it needs.

Also, I did not see many low-starch vegetables on your Tracker. If you use the "my plate" guidelines, to plan your meal-- 1/2 of the plate should be low-starch vegetables, with 1/4 a whole grain and 1/4 a protein.

NIRERIN Posts: 14,135
7/20/13 12:51 P

Unless you are 5' or under, with so little excess weight to lose, 1/4 lb per week is right what you should be aiming to lose. Yes, it is possible you could lose a little more than that, but the slow and steady losses are what add up to being able to maintain your losses and the changes to your overall diet. Yes, I use the primary definition of diet which is simply what one eats.

7/20/13 12:04 P

Personally, I disagree with anyone who tells you to cut out a specific food group from your diet, unless there's a medical reason for it. Carbs are essential because they are what provide you with energy. That being said, I know many people follow carb-reducing diets, and in the end, everyone is going to do what works for them.

As for whether or not you will gain the weight back when you start eating more carbs again, that's definitely a reasonable concern, and that's another reason I don't like those types of diets; they're difficult to sustain for very long, and people do tend to gain the weight back when they start eating normally again. If you are aiming for a healthy lifestyle change, rather than just a diet to lose the weight, then it would be easier if you were making changes to your diet that you won't struggle with every day, or that don't make you feel like you're suffering or being punished. Otherwise, it will be a lot harder to stick with it for the rest of your life. emoticon

Edited by: HEALTHYFOREVER4 at: 7/20/2013 (12:05)
7/20/13 11:34 A

I'm a little confused and not sure what to do. I have around 30-40ish lbs to lose, and nothing EVER works. I work out, eat healthy, and I maybe lose .25lb a week. I've been working with a trainer and she's put me on this diet. I only eat meat the first 5 days, plus yogurt and oat bran, and then after that I will alternate 3 days eating meat/protein with veggies (except for corn) and then 2 days eating protein. I asked her about carbs and she said that the veggies are my good carbs and that it'll be fine. She is trying to cut all the sugar out of my diet because it goes straight to fat and to help burn more fat. I then asked her if I was going to be able to have rice, quinoa, etc. and she just said not now. She wants me to stay on this rotation thing the next 4 weeks before I go back to school and then she is going to give me a plan.

I'm not sure what to do because I don't know if I can cut all of that out for THAT long. But when I eat those things while trying to lose weight, I never really lose anything. I've also done a lot of reading on carb cycling and Chris Powell and I feel like that may be effective. I'm worried that the moment I start to eat bread, rice, etc. again I'll just gain all the weight back, but I would actually like to see some results. It's really frustrating to work hard and see nothing. Any suggestions/advice? Is this healthy/okay to do for a little while?

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