Mostly buy organic and local .... I far prefer fruit, vegetables etc that are recently picked rather than transported across vast distances. Where the price for organic is ridiculous I will look for a cheaper organic product or just buy usual.
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10/30/12 11:06 P
I tend to purchase most of my foods and toilettrees organic. though the macronutrient of the foods is not different from non-organic, the cost of digesting chemicals and poisons just for the sake of price is ridiculous.
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2,704 10/30/12 10:15 P
If organic is competitively priced I'll choose it. Otherwise, I don't bother, and I look for ways to reduce my exposure to toxins in other ways (for example I don't commute to work and thereby avoid exhaust fumes from the traffic). However, I do make an effort to buy organic citrus if I'm going to be using the zest... just a habit I guess.
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10/29/12 4:59 A
80% of my food is organic, grown in the UK where I live. The taste is better and I don't have to imbibe bad things. My brother-in-law died of organophosphate chemical poisoning. I loathe and detest chemicals and the industries that make them.
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10/28/12 6:26 P
Usually only carrots because they taste so much sweeter
10/28/12 3:47 P
I don't except for things like milk (hormones... no thanks) and bananas (for whatever reason I can taste the difference with bananas). I try to buy cage-free eggs as well. As far as other fruits and veggies, it doesn't make a difference to me.
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8,258 10/28/12 10:30 A
big waste of money
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6,854 10/28/12 10:15 A
I think it's a waste of money. It's not regulated, so how do you really know what organic is unless you grow it yourself?
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8,258 10/27/12 9:36 A
flat out waste of money
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10/27/12 7:48 A
I do not buy it because I cannot afford it. I don't think it's a waste of money for those that can afford it.
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1,085 10/27/12 6:55 A
big waste of money. think this is just a hype and used as a scare technique. i buy locally grown fruits and veggies so i do get more nutrutional benefit but will not purchase overpriced foods that are not really regulated very well.
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10/27/12 1:34 A
I always buy organic milk, because it tastes about 1000 times better. Most other things, I buy the organic if it's on sale, because I do like the idea of reducing pesticides, and putting a dent in the destruction of biodiversity that Monsanto and like-minded industrial biotechs are largely responsible for.
More than anything, I try to support local farms and buy from farmer's markets, but I recognize that is a unique luxury. I moved to California after living in Alaska for a decade, where farmer's markets are only around for a very short season and don't offer a lot of diversity (giant cabbage, anyone?). Every Sunday I pick up my CSA box from a local farm, and I get excited about the freshness of ingredients I have to play with, and feel a little bad for my family back home that has to buy their weeks-old produce from who-knows-where at the grocery store. By the time a vegetable makes its long journey to local stores in a lot of places, I'm sure there's no difference in taste between organic and conventionally-grown. For that matter, it's of little wonder so many people don't seem to like vegetables!
I buy a lot of produce that can be found locally from farmers markets, which are SOMETIMES organic, not always. I think it is the freshness that matters most. But some veggies and friuts are probably a lot healthier if they are organic, no matter where they came from. Strawberries and peppers are among these. I think things where the vegetable skin will be removed -- go ahead and buy regular supermarket varieties, clean and remove inedible skins, and enjoy. I try to avoid factory farming when I can, but not because the better alternatives are (sometimes) organic, but because overall they are healthier anyways... And, meanwhile, a good farm grown tomato ALWAYS trumps the supermarket variety in taste, no matter what.
Edited by: ARTEMISTHEGREEK at: 10/26/2012 (21:44)
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8,150 10/26/12 6:08 P
I buy very little organic food; I think it's usually a waste of money. I do wash produce well (with soapy water if it's something that would hold pesticides, then rinse). One thing I try to avoid is meat which has been fed all kinds of antibiotics. Luckily there are a couple of suppliers here whose meats are clearly marked as not containing antibiotics. I believe that the antibiotics which are fed to most meats as a preventive measure rather than to treat an illness, are partly responsible for the many antibiotic-resistant bacteria ("super bugs").
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518 10/26/12 3:36 P
According to that study, if you follow the link.
"Two studies reported significantly lower urinary pesticide levels among children consuming organic versus conventional diets"
"The risk for contamination with detectable pesticide residues was lower among organic than conventional produce (risk difference, 30% [CI, −37% to −23%]), but differences in risk for exceeding maximum allowed limits were small."
"However, the risk for isolating bacteria resistant to 3 or more antibiotics was higher in conventional than in organic chicken and pork (risk difference, 33% [CI, 21% to 45%])."
"Consumption of organic foods may reduce exposure to pesticide residues and antibiotic-resistant bacteria."
Also "Limitation: Studies were heterogeneous and limited in number, and publication bias may be present."
This study is not well done.
Perhaps if the EPA actually tested the pesticides themselves to determine safety instead of relying on the pesticide manufacturer to test it's own product I might be more willing to accept their safety recommendations. Until then I'll try and eat organic.
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797 10/26/12 2:52 P
I tried buying a lot of organic months ago.. saw that my total months grocery bill was up by $200 more.. knew that I could not sustain that every month so now I buy almost nothing organic. I do think less pesticides and hormones are worth it. But, I also think that just being labeled organic is not always full of truth. So, sometimes it is worth the money. Sometimes it is not.
...meaning that eating organic STILL exposes you to 70% of the pesticides. Waste of money.
Also, "pesticide levels in both organic and conventional produce were well within the limits set by the FDA. " These limits are set WELL BELOW the levels of any adverse effects (NOAEL, if you know any toxicology).
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518 10/26/12 2:40 P
The article says, " researchers found that eating organic produce may reduce exposure to pesticides by 30 percent".
I like to shop at the farmers market and buy from local farmers. As many have pointed out, USDA Organic allows for pesticide use. Many local farmers at the market use none, and they are picked when they are actually ripe.
EDIT: Also, of course the study found little difference in the nutritional value. If the "conventional" produce were non-local and the "Organic" produce were non-local then there would be no reason to think the nutrients would be higher in the organic produce. Many times the produce is picked well before it is ready when it must survive the shipping times. I would love to see a study that compared nutrients in local vs. non-local produce.
Waste of money, IMO. There's never been any proof of any benefit whatsoever. Spend your money if it makes you feel better about what you're consuming, but it doesn't do it for us. Science wins over emotions.
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518 10/26/12 7:59 A
I too avoid conventionally grown foods in the Dirty Dozen. By doing so you can reduce your pesticide consumption by a whopping 80%!
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10/26/12 7:34 A
I buy organic milk and will buy some organic fruit. The below lists shows some of the items that have the most and least pesticides, so I pretty much never buy organic items off of the "clean 15" list. http://www.pbs.org/wnet/need-to-know/hea lth/the-dirty-dozen-and-clean-15-of-pr oduce/616/
I do not buy any organic prepackages foods like soups, cereals or snacks.
As far as a waste of money, I think that's a personal decision. I think getting a manicure is a wast of money, but others see it is a treat or a necessity. To each their own. I buy what works for my husband and me. We would like to eventually grow out own food, but haven't been very successful in container gardens yet... (renting and do not have a yard).
We buy organic milk and eggs to avoid the hormones and antibiotics. Less often for meat. Rarely do we buy organic produce. Can't afford ALL organic.
Where my daughter lives in the Pacific northwest organic and sustainable are readily available at good prices.
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10/25/12 5:15 P
I also buy organic, but not for everything we eat. There are certain items I always buy organic, and others I never buy organic (mostly fruits/veggies that need to be peeled). It's worth it to me.
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791 10/25/12 4:44 P
Yes I buy organic when I can and am not convinced it is a waste of money. Organic foods are not supposed to contain GMOs, and I avoid those much of the time. and I do notice a difference in taste, particularly in fruits - pears, berries, tomatoes - all seem to taste "real" instead of styrofoam. Dairy & meats generally wont have extra hormones or antibiotics - i dont need those. The produce is usually not as pretty, large, or shiny, but flavor & avoidance of GMOs & man made chemicals are worth it to me.
Like a previous poster said, some small local farms are organic, but cannot label as such. Buying from farmers & ranchers nearby is a great way to know your food's true quality.
i buy organic as much as i can. I don't look at the package. I look at the bar code. If the bar code has a 9 then it is organic. I think the 8 means that it is GMO and a 5 means conventional. I also buy from reputable farmers markets and ask very specific questions.
Is organic a waste of money-- you will have to do a lot better to convince me.
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10/25/12 1:53 P
I don't trust the labeling. Is it REALLY organic? I think that's what the original poster meant.
IMHO, the only way to be sure something is organic is to grow it yourself, or buy it from a grower who you know and trust to be organic.
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10/25/12 1:49 P
I think it's a waste of money. I will only buy organic when it's on sale for less than the non-organic. A lot of people don't realize that they absolutely can and do spray organic crops with pesticides. They just use natural pesticides like pyrethrins (made from chrysanthemums) and rotenone (found in the stems and seeds of several plants). But, I don't think that these pesticides are any safer than the newer, man-made pesticides. Actually, I think that some of the newer man-made pesticides are much safer (and much more effective, allowing less to be used) than pyrethrins and rotenone. Just because something is "natural" doesn't mean that it's safe, good for you, or healthier (e.g. poison mushrooms, arsenic, rattlesnake venom or tetrodotoxin are deadly, not good for you, even though they are natural) and just because something is man-made does not mean that it is unsafe or unhealthy.
So far as taste, I cannot tell any difference between organic and non-organic produce. I will say, though, that nothing you can buy at a store will taste as good as what you grow at home! I am currently eating apples from my apple tree and they are so delicious...crisp, a little sweet and a little tart at the same time...nothing like the bland, wax-coated, mealy apples from the stores. :)
Edited by: LOVE4KITTIES at: 10/25/2012 (13:53)
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10/25/12 1:17 P
If I can afford it, yes. But that doesn't happen too often so I tend to focus more on where the food comes from, and buy local. My grocery store does a good job of labeling where things come from, and many things are from right here in Colorado.
However, I will still buy organic if it's cost effective, this past week I was able to get organic fuji apples (my favorite kind) for 1.99/lb, so I jumped on that as the non-organic ones are normally close to $3/lb. Regular honeycrisps were on sale for 1.99 so since we were comparing apples to apples (har har) I went with the organic ones. Last week they had organic winter squashes (like acorn, butternut, etc) for 88 cents a pound.
I also shop at Sprouts and they will often have good sales on organic stuff, I got organic sweet potatoes (red jewel yams actually) for 88 cents a pound. This week they have a 4lb bag of organic fuji's for $5 and 1lb bags of organic baby carrots for $1.25. Pretty good deal to me.
Another thing to keep in mind that is farmers have to go through a series of regulations in order to label their food "organic". Some of the small farms don't go through the process because of the cost etc. So, sometimes the local stuff you can buy is already organic, they just can't label it that way.
We buy as much organic as possible. Never a waste of money in our book. Waste of money would be fast food, dining out, chips and snack foods, sodas, etc.
Check out Food, Inc., King Corn and MANY other similar movies out there. If you don't think all the hormones, antibiotics and pesticides are an issue I promise you'll at least think twice after watching even one of these movies. Eye opening.
10/25/12 12:11 P
Yes, for most items. It's definitely not a waste of money in my opinion.
I think it depends. On foods you can peel, absolutely a waste of money. Prepackaged stuff is also prob a waste of money (since I think we should avoid prepackaged stuff anyway). But things you eat with pesticides on them and stuff (like grapes, lettuce, etc). May be a good idea. I think it's whatever fits best into your lifestyle.
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3,510 10/25/12 10:51 A
No way. Waste of money.
You don't have to eat the whole thing.
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55 10/25/12 10:19 A
A waste of money. So much is imported from where food regulations arn't as strict, so also can be a danger.
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