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CANTARESF SparkPoints: (63)
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8/22/13 6:44 P

I've been in that boat and so have many. No diet will solve your weight problem if it is viewed as a temporary burden you can't wait to be free of. You need something you can sustain indefinitely (some call it a lifestyle rather than a diet). I don't think any diet that requires you to go hungry ("portion control", filling yourself up with fiber or water and pretending it's a meal, etc) and/or do unpleasant exercise is sustainable. Willpower is a finite resource, and hunger is a basic urge. What does work IME, is getting your appetite in sync with your energy output. What animal other than homo sapiens counts calories?

For me, formerly a 340-lb guy with severe insulin resistance, that involved cutting out bulk carbs, including the "healthy whole grains" we're all supposed to be so in love with, which are really just so much empty calories that invite you to eat more and more of the same. It also involved embracing fat as a primary (~65%) calorie source. Your body stores its main energy reserve as fat (yep, saturated fat) for a good reason, yet we often unthinkingly accept that it's practically toxic to consume "fatty foods" (which are typically snacks/fastfood also loaded with flour, corn, sugar etc).

As soon as I made those shifts, weight started coming off steadily, my energy level came way up, and it all felt like cheating because I was rarely hungry--I was burning my own fat. When I was hungry, I got to eat simple whole foods I liked (steaks, eggs, seafood, rich salads with nuts and cheese and avocados, vegetables with butter/hollandaise/etc) rather than cardboard fat-free imitation foods or miserable powdered shake mixes. Giving up bread, cereal, pasta, OJ by the gallon sucked for the first few months but now I don't miss it.

That's probably not the only way to go about it, but it's one path worth considering if you're caught in a yo-yo cycle. Certainly finding what works sustainably is a better approach than blaming yourself for 'weakness' and taking up the same grim yoke of conscious deprivation once again!

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8/22/13 5:36 P

I've never done fad diets, and until the last ten pounds, I have never yo-yoed. I've only gone straight up and straight down.

I've spent the last 6 months going between 208 and 218 and back again--many times. I've had some major challenges in my life during this time. I've also lost 30 more pounds than my endocrinologist said would even be possible, so I am trying not to beat myself up about it too much. It's is amazing how bad the yo-yo cycle has made me feel--physically--so I am determined to get more focused and to stop it.

Maybe you need to work towards not looking at what you are doing as a diet or punishment and starting to think about it as an opportunity to be healthy and to treat yourself well. It really is possible to eat good, tasty, satisfying stuff and still take care of just takes some experimentation to figure that out how to do that.

CHIBI_TOTORO SparkPoints: (147)
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8/22/13 2:21 P

"i'm not sure if that helps or not. "
No, but only cause "THATS NOT FAIR", not cause your info is useful. :-)

I'm smack in the middle of perimenapause, I'm big so exercise hurts (it's good, and important, but hurts never the less - and not in a good 'fell the burn' way). They nuked my thyroid 15 years ago, and I've never gotten quite right since... and knowing my body is slowing down each year makes it that much harder.

but these are not excuses. they are just challenges.:-)

Good to know others are in this boat!

NIRERIN Posts: 14,249
8/22/13 7:23 A

actually it's not just this behavior, it's age as well. the base calories you burn peak in your midtwenties. so that every year after that peak, if you eat the same amount of calories that you would have needed to maintain [without changing any other lifestyle type factors] you'll gain. it's only like ten cals a day per year, but it adds up. that ten cals a day over a year adds up to just over a pound. do the same thing the year after and you're talking two pounds without counting the pound from the previous year. same for yer three and without counting the three pounds from year one and two it'll be another gain of three pounds. and so on. i'm not sure if that helps or not.

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8/22/13 2:43 A

'Dieting' or even healthy eating takes a lot of time. At some point of our lives, we just don't have any of that. We get busy at work, so instead of lunch and dinner we end up at a drive through. We get stressed out, so we binge on carbs and sweets because they make us feel good because we feel too rushed or drained to even make a proper meal. We succumb to peer pressure when we forget to eat or bring an extra healthy snack. The holidays roll around, and time for working out, cooking and planning goes out of the window. The problem with trying to lose or even maintain weight is that it is not fast or convenient, and the biggest commodity we are missing in our daily lives is time.

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8/22/13 1:56 A

I have read this is a common problem so you are not alone. I think when people restrict too many calories it will lead to overeating. Also when a person takes out certain foods and feels deprived. It is better to have slow and steady weight loss that lasts then to fall back into old ways. If you can think of it as a lifestyle and try to have a plan for a new way of eating and exercise.
It sounds like you have a positive and more realistic approach which I think will help you

8/21/13 8:22 P

It took me a very long time to change my attitude about how my nutrition habits should be. I dieted as a young girl with my mom (sad but true). I'd watch my mom start a diet, and I followed along, not knowing that it was setting the stage for a major up hill battle in adulthood.

I can only say that proper diet and adequate exercise really does work. It just takes a lot of time and commitment. That's no lie. If you can stick with it, especially on bad days, you'll come out on top in the long run. You and I both know the short run is so misleading.

RUSSELL_40 Posts: 16,826
8/21/13 8:11 P

I think we all are CHIBI.

We all started by reducing calories. A calorie is a calorie. We all failed. Not because a calorie isn't a calorie, although that has been argued. I am not going to get into debunking the First Law of However we cut down to 1200 for example, and 500 calories a day adds up to 1 lb a week. Then we planned how wonderful life would be 52 lbs lighter in a year! A year later we are up 10 lbs.! WTH happened?

1200 calories left you feeling hungry. That's what happened. So you went to Taco Bell for 4th meal, and how many calories was that meal? Who the heck knows. No one counts fast food meals. We just re-start the next morning, and we are on a 1200 calorie diet! 52 weeks till we can buy new clothes!! Then we repeat.

We fail to realize that the fast food was very high calorie, and we probably ate 2200-2500 calories average. In our minds we think of it as a 1200 calorie diet that we failed on. if we had just eaten a balanced 1800 calorie diet, we could have not been hungry, avoided cheats, and lost weight, because we actually ate less calories, even though we think we are eating much more now.

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8/21/13 4:53 P

I'm just thinking about bloging on this, but I wondered if others of you have done this.

I would go on some "extreme" or fad diet, lose X lbs, then stop, and gain it back pluse usually 5 or more lbs. cycle after cycle, for nearly 15 years. I went from a "fat" 150, to a fully obese 210, just from this behavior.

I'm trying to learn to eat, this time. not diet. learn about foods, portions, health!

I just hope this time I'm learning habbits that will mean a life time of being healthy (even if i dont get "thin" - heck even if I only maintain, it's got to be better than up and down).

anyone else in this boat?

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