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CALLMECARRIE Posts: 1,598
1/25/13 4:20 P

There's nothing wrong with diet soda,if you don't drink massive amounts of it. There have been many times when the only thing that dissuaded me from ditching my "good" lunch and eating a burger and fries instead was deciding to include a treat in the form of a Diet Dr. Pepper or Diet Coke with my "good" lunch. The sweet taste sometimes gets me past temptations to eat something more caloric.

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1/25/13 3:32 P

Diet soda plays a huge role in my weight loss journey(s) as well... It is often just what I need when the daily cravings hit. I drink usually one every day, sometimes none, but definitely credit diet pop to assisting me with feeling satisfied in between meals.

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1/25/13 1:58 P

For me, diet soda has been a key to my success.

I LOVE soda. I mean, I really, really like it. Before I got healthy, I was having at least 2-3 regular sodas per day. I tried time and time and again to break the addiction; first, I'd switch to caffeine free, or not buy it and only drink it at restaurants, or whatever. But every time, I'd come back. I just enjoyed it too much.

I still don't like aspartame; can't abide the flavor. But Coke Zero and its variants have allowed me to switch my addiction to one that WON'T make me choose between eating healthy or giving up a very beloved pasttime. I still drink less of them than I did, and I make sure to get my water in, but I can drink these guilt-free, and they don't trigger cravings at all. IT also gives me an option when we travel. Instead of my usual 20 oz sugar-laden Dr Pepper, I hav ea coke zero and can stay away while driving. ;)

Is it for everyone? No. But it's considered safe by the experts, it's working in my life now (I've shed 10 lbs since I made the switch) and I haven't let it replace more healthy choices than I would normally make. :)

-POOKIE- Posts: 11,848
1/25/13 1:36 P

I agree with Becky here, and well, the science behind what Becky is saying as well.

I drink a litre of pure water, plus 1 tea, 3 coffee and 2 soda a day.

I have no issue with it causing cravings/bloating/growing third arms as some would suggest it does.

I find it a better way to control the need for something tasty, interesting (lets face it, water isn't) and also a social thing, I don't drink much alcohol, so I drink diet soda if out when others are drinking, who wants to order water at a bar?

MANDIETERRIER1 Posts: 13,704
1/25/13 12:59 P

For me personally, diet sodas cause cravings. So that is why they are not good for me.

For you they may be healthy in moderation

JODILHERNANDEZ Posts: 252
1/25/13 11:39 A

Any soda is bad for you if drank in large quantities. Regular soda has tons of high fructose corn syrup if US made. That is bad for caloric and blood sugar reasons obviously. Both have carbonation which must escape one way or another. So you may burp but it will also bring on gas. it is air after all. But the biggest one for me is they are both acidic. They can clean metal and are very hard on your stomach if drank frequently and/or in larger quantities. Like Dietician Becky said maximum of 3 a day. And for me even that would be too much because I have a ulcer and the acid does a number on it. I enjoy the occasional diet soda. If you have the mind set that everything must have flavor then it may be a problem for you. I can have a diet soda 1-2 times a week and I don't have problems but when I drank larger quantities I did.

And although there might be no proof of what I am about to say it is my experience. On days I consume diet drinks my weight loss is slower or non existent. It takes a few days and then I have a big drop. It may be a fluke but it has been my experience over the long haul and not the short term. I imagine the caffeine is something I am sensitive to and it may cause me to retain a bit of water. But this is simply my experience and not a scientifically proven study by any means.

PS I do use artificial sweeteners in small quantities most days such as splenda and NutraSweet with out the above mentioned issues so that is also why I believe the caffeine might be the culprit.

DIETITIANBECKY Posts: 26,621
1/25/13 7:10 A

There is a great deal of information on this thread that is not based on scientific reserach and is not accurate.

Non nutritive sweeteners do not bring about an insulin response which is why diet drinks, etc can be used by someone with diabetes and are not counted as part of their carbohydrate plan.

Sugar alcohols are used in such small amounts in foods. they do not need to be counted. When consumed in larger amounts, the person with diabetes is educated on how to count part of their total. They also do not promote tooth decay.

This site asks that the members use scientific evidence when sharing information. This is an example of a site that contains published, peer-reviewed research. Do not assume that everything you read on the internet is accurate.
www.pubmed.gov

Research has shown that diet drinks when used as a substitue for regular pop can help with cutting calories and reducing weight. There are a few people who seem to crave more sweetness when using artificial sweeteners,---but for most people this is not the case. Artifical sweeteners are not the cause of obestity.

SP Registered Dietitian Becky



SUNSHINE6442 Posts: 1,828
1/25/13 5:41 A

Sugar Alcohols cause gas and bloating in some people.

Sugar Alcohols ( products labeled sugar free) will raise blood sugar.

Sucralose is an artificial sweetener. The majority of ingested sucralose is not broken down by the body and therefore it is non-caloric. Sucralose is actually Splenda.
Note that artificial sweeteners are not a solution; they’re part of the problem as they mimic sugar so well that the body produces insulin to metabolize them and might even make you crave food.
My endocrinoligist says sugar alcohols are a nightmare.

and
Dr Mark Hyman Says "Stop confusing your body. If you have a desire for something sweet, have a little sugar, but stay away from “fake” foods. Researchers found that the total food eaten over 14 days dramatically increased in the artificial sweetener group — meaning that the artificial sweetener stimulated their appetite and made them eat more!"

"THERE’S NO DOUBT about it. Artificial sweeteners cause obesity"

Eliminate sugar and artificial sweeteners and your cravings will go away: Go cold turkey. If you are addicted to narcotics or alcohol you can’t simply just cut down. You have to stop for you brain to reset. Eliminate refined sugars, sodas, fruit juices, and artificial sweeteners from your diet. These are all drugs that will fuel cravings.

Up to you....I can only report what I read.

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1/25/13 1:39 A

SAILOR64:
Actually,
I heard it from a doctor who was lecturing on bariatric surgery, not from an online website. It was a while back but it made sense. Maybe it was part of his research or maybe it was his postulate due to his or patient observation... it was not the focus of lecture, just part of the introduction along with statistics of diet failure and other interesting remarks.
I've never been to the site (can you send me the link, here or privately? I'm a bit curious as to the agenda you mentioned myself), but if I can find the prof I will ask him as to his reasons for linking psudo-sugar and hunger the way he did.

ACKWARDATTIMES Posts: 140
1/24/13 11:38 P

There are sources on both sides...pros and cons as with anything, if you google enough you will find reasons diet food is so great and reasons why it is so harmful and info to disapprove both. Its about what you are comfortable with putting in your body. I choose not to ingest chemical sweeteners or HFCS and limit sugar anyway ... it is my choice and I like it. Go with what feels right for you. :)

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1/24/13 8:24 P

This is why I always say, check your source material.

Alorta, I couldn't find a single scientific study to support your hypothesis regarding diet drinks causing an insulin reaction. I did however find a published report from a homeopathic website that sells homeopathic items that spouted the same unproven rhetoric regarding a connection between diet soda and an insulin reaction. I wonder what that sites agenda is? Hmmm. Could it be to sell something to someone?

A message for anyone who reads this. Don't fall for unsubstantiated psuedo-science. Check your sources and then check their sources. Many advertisers post articles on websites that sound third-party and seem to have scientific logic, but when you look a little deeper you see they don't.

So, if you want to drink diet soda, go ahead. If you don't want to drink it, great water is easier on your kidneys anyway.





DIETITIANBECKY Posts: 26,621
1/24/13 7:38 P

Diet drinks do not bring about an insulin response, nor do they bring about hypoglycemia.

Artificial sweeteners have been extensively tested and shown to be safe. Current recommendations suggest no more than 32 ounces of diet drinks daily as part of an overall healthy diet.

There is one small study that indicates that a few people may have a greater desire for sweet foods when exposed to artificially sweetened foods. If this is your situation, then you may want to limit your exposure.

Diet drinks can be a way to cut calories in the diet. They are safe to use.

SP Registered Dietitian Becky

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1/24/13 5:38 P

First of all, the sheer wallop of calories is not what makes it so unhealthy!
Besides the wallop of pure sugar a regular soda dumps into your blood, it also causes calcium to get leached from your bones... and the ingredient responsible for that is in diet soda.
Additionally, I would argue that regular soda is healthier!
Not touching the question of side effects of fake sugars Yojulez mentioned, fake sugars (anything you eat that is sweet but has no calories) also cause your body to feel hungry. Some people feel it more than others (see post below), but the mechanism occurs in everyone. When you taste something sweet, your body prepares for the sugar to be absorbed into your bloodstream, so it secretes insulin to keep you from becoming hyperglycemic. BUT, since the sugar is a lie, there is no sugar coming in, and instead you become slightly hypoglycemic, and the way your body corrects this is by making you put in more sugar (carbs, simple sugars, etc) by making you feel hungry.
As people tend to drink more diet soda since as you pointed out, it has no calories, the result is that (most people) end up eating more than they would without said 0-cal soda AND have more tooth and bone decalcification than people who drink a little soda (since they worry about the crazy calorie count in each tiny can).

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1/24/13 4:57 P

There are mixed reviews out about the health effects of aspartame (fake sugar). Also, some people find that diet soda increases their appetite. But, others (like me) find it actually helps tame it a bit.

There's also some other things like the acidity in it is not good for your teeth, and darker sodas (much like coffee and tea) can stain your teeth. That's another reason I cut down to just one 12oz can per day.

Edited by: YOJULEZ at: 1/24/2013 (16:57)
SKILLEDTUTOR SparkPoints: (4,755)
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1/24/13 4:33 P

Why is diet pop/soda so unhealthy? There are no calories.

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