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OPUSEVA
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1/17/13 9:23 A

"Anyone who has done research knows that you can manipulate data in most experiments to support whatever conclusion you want."

You clearly don't know what you're talking about, and haven't a clue regarding the FDA review process. Understandable, considering that you believe stuff on Mercola's site.



BREWMASTERBILL
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1/17/13 6:55 A

It's not and Mercola is a well known quack.



RUSSTHESKIGUY
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1/17/13 3:11 A

Sorry, here is the link: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles
/archive/2012/03/24/aspartame-affects-
brain-health.aspx. Again, not a scientific study but had a few interesting points.



RUSSTHESKIGUY
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1/17/13 3:10 A

Here is a link to an interesting article. It is not a study and is obviously biased against aspertame but it does provide an interesting history on the approval of aspertame by the FDA. Unfortunately, I have no faith in the FDA to actually protect me as a consumer (for many reasons, not just this article). I do not believe that they have the best interest of the citizens of this country at heart but are in the pockets of the corporations. They don't do their own studies, but they review the studies provided to them by those who are requesting approval for either drugs or food products. Who pays for those studies? The people who are requesting approval. So do you think there is possibly any conflict of interest? Anyone who has done research knows that you can manipulate data in most experiments to support whatever conclusion you want.

Okay, enough with the conspiracy theories. There are a couple studies that have linked aspertame as a neurotoxin. There are also many studies that say it is safe. So best case scenario, you eat or drink it and there are no side effects. Worst case, you cause long term brain damage. As a few others have noted, diet soda can also be addictive which is never good and it is often linked to obesity. So bottom line, there is nothing about diet soda that is healthy for your body in any way. The only question really is how unhealthy is it. Unfortunately for us there is no straight answer on that so everyone must make their own decision. As for me, I rarely drink any soda, but when I do, I don't drink diet. I'll stick to regular soda and take the sugar over the aspertame any day.



NYXWOLFWALKER
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1/16/13 11:51 P

I don't do diet pop, but then again I've not had regular pop in a while either (this mont actually) we got the sodastream for the holidays and I've been drinking stuff we make from that from our home made stuff to the cola that came with it (don't care for the taste, but one thing is for sure its cut me drinking any pop, so that is a positive thing).



YOJULEZ
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1/16/13 11:39 P

The side effect is from the caffeine, not from the diet coke itself. I could go drink a cup of tea or coffee and I wouldn't have that side effect. I just don't like coffee or tea. If I did, I would probably drink those instead. Someday I'll quit (probably not until I get pregnant, if that ever happens), but for now, I'm sticking with it.

Edited by: YOJULEZ at: 1/16/2013 (23:41)


35BYMAY
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1/16/13 11:38 P

I do believe aspartame is horrible, but also believe that diet coke has saved me from many binges... when I really need something sweet, it really does the trick and satisfies my sweet tooth. So I keep on drinking it, instead of mindlessly snacking, up to 4 or 5 a week sometimes :(



LINAREX
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1/16/13 11:34 P

I drink diet coke a lot, and I also think that it doesn't do anything good for me.



RUSSELL_40
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1/16/13 11:21 P

No side effects except withdrawal YOUJULEZ?? That's a pretty big side effect..lol.

When you consume something, and then find out that you have to have it to avoid feeling bad, it is a very good idea to stop consuming it. You should be able to go caffeine free, and suffer no headaches or side effects at all.

Pop is just syrup and water. Does anyone think that combo is healthy? For me, diet pop causes my weight loss to stop, and Atkins warned people not to consume aspartame for this very reason. It also causes me to binge eat. It isn't good for you at all

Still up to the individual person though.



MARITIMER3
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1/16/13 5:51 P

I don't like all the artificial additives in diet pop.



ARUN4ONE
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1/16/13 5:31 P

Hee, hee...what a GREAT discussion! I love all the feedback and how everyone's thoughts on the matter vary so greatly. I think that's great! I learned along time ago what works for one person may not work for another. This blog is proof positive. I love it! emoticon



YOJULEZ
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1/16/13 4:58 P

I really think it varies from person to person and is up to an individual's body chemistry. I personally see no ill side effects from drinking my one 12oz Diet Coke a day (in the morning before I've eaten anything). If I DON'T drink it, I get some pretty bad caffeine headaches, which leads me to eat more, because I think I have the headache because I'm hungry. But drinking it doesn't make me more hungry or make me crave sweets.

But, I know that some people do see negative affects form it, as already mentioned by others. Stuff like it causing sugar cravings, etc etc. But like I said, I personally don't have that problem.



BREWMASTERBILL
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1/16/13 4:53 P

Personally, ARUN4ONE, I'm with you. I partake on rare occasions, but I'm not someone who is walking around saying it is bad for you or healthy for you. That's for folks to decide for themselves until the evidence is clear one way or the other. I drink more whiskey than soda. lol.



ARUN4ONE
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1/16/13 4:42 P

@BREWMASTERBILL Cool. I read the study and noticed the references. That gives me a lot to chew on. I also appreciate your thoroughness and attention to detail. For now, I remain undecided about it's health effects. I mean if one person calls you a jackass, don't worry about it, but if 350 people do, maybe said person (or in this case a diet soda) should start looking for a warm spot in the barn? "A lot" of people condone it, soooo...even with an opposing study, my wandering mind yet wonders.

However and for now, I'm thinking I too will indulge from time to time because I for one like the taste, the fizzy's and the fact that it doesn't have any calories. I am not much of a "dieter" when it comes to what I eat, but I hate drink calories. They just seem pointless..no pun intended.

Carpe Diem!



SKYE60
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1/16/13 2:53 P

I gave up soda 2 years ago. I have nothing against drinking soda, I just don't like all the fizz. I did notice when I did drink a diet soda, i'd feel free to go ahead and order the larger size of whatever with the mindset, after all I deserve it since my diet soda has 0 calories.. so i think thats it. We tend to eat more since we are not drinking our calories leading to weight gain.



JENG829
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1/16/13 2:18 P

There are not many studies out there with conclusive results.
There was a study done which looked at soda consumption - diet and regular - and found that people who drank either kind were more likely to be obese. It was a questionnaire though, and there could always be other factors involved.

One study that caught my eye a while back was this:
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21138816/>
Unfortunately, it was done on rats, but still is worth noting. Rats who drank a solution containing artificial sweetener gained weight eating the same amount of food as rats who drank water and did not gain weight. Hmm.

Anyway, I'm with Russell on this. It tastes funny and has a ton of man made chemicals. If I have to "learn to like it", it isn't worth having as a treat.



BREWMASTERBILL
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1/16/13 11:40 A

The link I gave you has all of the studies I'm aware of (see the bottom of the link). I read many of them myself and I found that none of them were conclusive. I don't believe any conclusive studies exist at this time. All of the folks who demonize aspartame and other artificial sweeteners have also not provided any conclusive studies. They're usually blog posts or media stories instead of real studies.



ARUN4ONE
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1/16/13 11:31 A

@BREWMASTERBILL I noticed you shared a link. I don't have time right now to look at it, but should by the evening. Although the media outlets I shared mention studies, you correctly state, they do not site them. Do you have any more good, conclusive studies on this subject or some suggestions where I should head? I'm thinking maybe college sites or research facilities, but if you had some leads that would be wonderful because yes, I am tired of all the rig-a-ramo and just want some good, solid data not based on someone's opinion or corporation's pocketbook. I appreciate your thirst for truth. I have an unquenchable one myself emoticon



BREWMASTERBILL
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1/16/13 11:17 A

These are media outlets not the studies themselves. They are designed to take studies and twist them into shocking conclusions that aren't really there. I would suggest that if you're concerned, you read the studies themselves and not the media regurgitation. If the media outlet does not refer to the actual study, I would completely disregard.



ARUN4ONE
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1/16/13 11:17 A

@MissRuth, yes, I thought it pretty weird myself that on days I drank diet pop (as the only change to my diet) I would have high numbers throughout my third trimester of pregnancy. No studies to back this one up, just my own personal experience. My brother is a type 1 diabetic, lives on diet soda and never has a problem.

My hypothesis is that somehow the "alcohol sugars" in diet soda clashed with my hormones. Otherwise, I am completely lost???



RUSSELL_40
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1/16/13 11:09 A

I quit pop about a year or so ago. I am diabetic, so of course, I drank a lot of regular pop...lol.
I never liked the taste of diet. Things that you have to acquire a taste for, I skip., like beer, diet food.

Obviously calorie wise, diet is better than regular, but I think if you can quit pop altogether, it would be better. It is pretty much a personal choice though. If it seems to be a problem for YOU, get rid of it.



ARUN4ONE
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1/16/13 11:09 A

Here's a couple of those sites I was referring to. Yeah, even with these studies I am not 100% convinced, mostly because I love the taste and feeling pop gives me. It's almost like a high (prob from the caffeine as I don't drink much). Yet the battle rages because if I am doing something unhealthy for my body, I certainly don't want to be paying for it later with cancer or something crazy! Thanks for sharing your thoughts everyone. emoticon

http://todayhealth.today.com/_news/2012/
07/05/12548199-the-strange-reason-diet
-soda-makes-you-fat?lite

http://lifestyle.inquirer.net/78085/diet
-soda-can-still-make-you-fat

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-2
0075358-10391704/new-study-is-wake-up-
call-for-diet-soda-drinkers/




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MISSRUTH
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1/16/13 11:08 A

I had never heard that diet coke could spike a person's blood sugar. My DH is diabetic and drinks diet cokes (in the south, "soda" or "pop" is all referred to as "coke", no matter what brand it is). It hasn't ever affected his blood sugar.

Personally, the only issue I have with diet soft drinks is that it gets you used to drinking something that tastes sweet. Which may then lead to wanting to eat things that taste sweet.

I am a tightwad at heart, and just plain tap water is about the cheapest beverage there is. So that's what I drink the most of. Maybe once or twice a year, when it's really hot in the summer AND we have pizza for supper, I'll drink a diet coke to go with it. So it's a treat for me, not a part of my daily life.



SPIRALDOWN
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1/16/13 11:02 A

Personally i stay away.. I have heard that artifical sweetners are not good for u and hard for the body to process... I am now 12 weeks pop free and am lovin it....



BREWMASTERBILL
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1/16/13 10:32 A

I have found no conclusive studies, so I'd be curious to see your sources. I drink the stuff from time to time and it actually helps with appetite suppression (for me).

Of interest (and relevant studies at the bottom).

examine.com/faq/is-diet-soda-bad-for-you.h
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ROSE-LITE
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1/16/13 10:24 A

it's pretty rare.....



UGAKATE85
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1/16/13 10:20 A

Personally, I won't touch diet soda b/c I avoid all the fake sugars like the plague. I will occassionally (as in once every 6 months or so) have a regular soda but I try to stay away from those too. I think any drink, food, supplement, etc that has tons of ingredients, most or all of which you don't know much about/can't pronounce, are things to be avoided.



SPICEMWE
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1/16/13 10:19 A

I quit drinking diet soda last year as an experiment because I used to drink SO much of it. After about two weeks of being completely soda free I felt SO much better. I wasn't ever tired, I didn't have the afternoon crash like I always do and I felt like I didn't crave sweets nearly as much.

Of course the Diet Coke's siren's call hit me and I was back to drinking it again. Now, I'm cutting myself back to one a day and even with that limit I'm starting to feel better. My goal is to kick it completely again - for good this time.



ARUN4ONE
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1/16/13 9:23 A

I have been reading a lot of studies on diet pop. Most of them conclude it's no good for a person. I like it because it satisfied me without the calories, but I did notice when I was pregnant and had developed gestational diabetes, diet pop wreaked havoc on my sugar levels! Haven't tested it since not being pregnant, but wondering what others thoughts on this may be. I am thinking about laying pop regular or otherwise down for good. Thanks emoticon



 
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