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4/8/13 1:18 P

Sugar-free maple syrup is WONDERFUL stuff - good thinking, CONNIEANGEL23! I also like a wee bit of it over raw baby carrots sprinkled with cinnamon. Sounds odd - and it's something I just stumbled across - but I have it often! So few calories in that tablespoon of it... with the baked apple, well, that's something I've *got* to try! emoticon

CONNIEANGEL23 Posts: 643
4/8/13 10:37 A

Something I like to use for sweetener is sugar free maple syrup. I am going to add this to the baked apple.

CONNIEANGEL23 Posts: 643
4/8/13 10:34 A

The sliced apple idea sounds wonderful. I have apples and that will be my dessert for lunch. emoticon

CONNIEANGEL23 Posts: 643
4/8/13 10:33 A

Thank you, yes I am using the Diabetic food tracker. It is wonderful for tracking carbs. emoticon

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4/3/13 6:41 P

Sounds deceptively simple, APPRIL, but it's unbelievably delicious! Haven't even tried it with frozen Greek yogurt, but that sounds like a fantastic addition emoticon

APPRIL Posts: 2,238
4/3/13 3:54 P

Slice an apple. Sprinkle some cinnamon. Microwave a minute or until cooked. Add a dollop of frozen greek yogurt. Not a pie, but a neat snack.

Unfortunately, diabetes makes you crave sugar.


Edited by: APPRIL at: 4/3/2013 (15:56)
GETSALONG Posts: 2,842
4/3/13 1:30 P

emoticon Wow, you're doing gr8! Awesome!!! Especially that you are seeing results! Sparktacular!

the meals - that's what I did when I started trying to learn what worked for meals and snacks.... I had a notebook that I put breakfast, lunch, dinner and snack down... and as I looked up and learned a new one, wrote it down... eventually, you just know & the planning gets much easier, less time consuming.

Are you using the SparkPeople diabetes food tracker? I found that helpful too, for figuring out if I was hitting various nutrition goals... I had a hard time getting enough fats, I had done low fat for so long...

And, have you seen the 8 week SparkPeople diabetes challenge team? It has 8 weeks of activities/articles to read (& earn a trophy). I found that helpful too....

CONNIEANGEL23 Posts: 643
4/3/13 1:00 P

Thank you, so much, to all of you. Your thoughts and suggestions have been a real blessing and help. It has been a week or so and I have made great strides. I've kept my morning fasting blood count to under 130 every day. I've actually lost several pounds, so I feel really good that I am heading in the right direction. Easter was a lot easier than I thought, I've never been a big Easter candy fan. Give me a tiny bite of my 70% dark chocolate and I am satisfied. I didn't even do that this Easter, since I am just getting started. I am getting better at planning my meals for the correct carb counts. As I get the right portions for a meal picked, I copy that meal and paste it into another day that week. As I do this more and more, I am hoping that will get easier and faster. I know posting with others will really help me, I a, somewhat of a loner. It is a goal to keep in touch. Hugs,

GETSALONG Posts: 2,842
4/1/13 12:43 P

Like Dillonnan shared, I also was very upset at the changes, from eating less to eating less sweets, and did grieve about changing that, even angry... my turning point was looking at it from a health point. Eating that way hurt me. Changing should help me feel better and be healthier... and decided to embrace the changes, explore what I could do and make it an adventure even...

every time I started looking backwards, i would have to conciously release it, turn and face forward and remind myself good things are going to happen... let's do this...

and you can too... (hugs)

BETHS60 Posts: 547
4/1/13 10:18 A

Good for you for making positive changes in your life. emoticon

I've got good news for you. You can have a really healthy, happy, fulfilled life without pie, cake, or ice cream 2 or 3 times a week! Seriously. People do this all the time. I bet you can do this without any loss of quality of life.

If you are in charge of shopping and meal preparation for your family, it shouldn't be that hard. Don't buy ice cream. Don't make cake or pie. You will save time and money that you can use on other things.

Here's a little idea that we used. After dinner on Friday nights, we would let one of the kids pick a game to play. That became our after dinner activity instead of dessert. Sometimes we even did something like bowling or mini-golf, which almost passes for exercise.

My personal thing is hot cocoa. It isn't exactly "the real thing" but I actually like it better. I use the 45 calorie coconut milk, cocoa powder, and Sugar Leaf, which I think is stevia and real sugar mixed. That makes something sweet for 100 calories. Again, you might want to pass this by a dietician.

Here's another thing that we did was if we wanted to splurge. Instead of keeping 1/2 gallons of ice cream in the freezer at all times, we would go to Ben and Jerry's and buy pints. For five people, we would get 3 pints. Since it was so rich, we would normally have left-overs. If there were only 4 of us, we could get by on 2 pints, which pretty much ensured that nobody would get more than 1 cup of ice cream. (And unlike getting cones, which means that you have to eat the whole thing, getting pints means that you don't have to eat more than you really want.) Oh, and serving the ice cream in a custard cup rather than a cereal bowl also helps us not to over eat.

But seriously, the bad things that can happen with diabetes are so very, very bad that no amount of sugary desserts is going to make you glad you had them instead of taking care of your health.


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3/31/13 10:00 P

Connie, my heart goes out to you... I don't have diabetes 2, but I was headed in that direction...plus, my blood lipids were pretty awful. I've turned it all around via diet and weight loss, though I realize that's not always possible. Along the way, I enlisted the help of a registered dietitian - and wow! Would you ever be amazed at how creative and helpful they can be in helping you tailor the way you cook, eat out, and shop to make your day-to-day fare as palatable and even tasty as can be. My insurance covered the few visits I made to mine...

It sounds like you've got a sound strategy and you've put lots of thought and consideration into it, but when it comes to knowing how, when, and how much with which you can splurge, a registered dietitian (R.D.) would be your greatest ally. I'll bet your endocrinologist or internist could recommend several good ones, too.

I think you've got some much better days ahead!

DILLONNAN Posts: 563
3/31/13 9:29 P

Oh, do I know what you mean. I was diagnosed in Feb 2013 with Type 2 diabetes and have attended a six hour diabetes education class at my local hospital. I'm still mourning the loss of overeating and in particular, overeating sugar. My A1C is 10.1 so I have some serious work to do. I need a renewing of my mind because sweets were a part of my daily life. I baked each family member's favorite cake and dinners for birthdays. I made a new and special cake for holidays. Today I skipped making my traditional coconut Easter bunny cake. Am I sad. Yeah, I am actually. But I refuse to give up... my life for sugar. I'm willing to fight this battle. I agree with others that have posted. I love the whole idea of no fake food substitutes. I too want to stick with the real thing. I will make a confession too. I could sit down and eat a whole pie by myself. And many times when my husband went to bed, I did just that! I'm not just mourning the lost of sugar. No, I'm mourning the AMOUNT of sugar I can NO LONGER EAT! As a diabetic, we can still have a limited amount of carbs. Of course, the key is moderation. Oh, how I used to hate that word.

To many, total abstinence is easier than perfect moderation - St. Augustine

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Edited by: DILLONNAN at: 3/31/2013 (21:33)
GETSALONG Posts: 2,842
3/31/13 2:56 P

in addition to the advice to find new2you, good4u foods you can enjoy and even love, thought I'd share what else helped me.... i was surprised, as i lost weight (reached about 50 lbs, 100 lbs to go) and was doing cardio in the pool, i remained in the pre-diabetic range but was still a bit hit & miss with the food and still fighting to get back to a normal range...

what ended up turning the corner was the combined weight loss, food and adding strength training 3+ times a week to my exercise (hand weights & resistance bands in a chair or pool.) and I tipped into & stayed in a normal range for the 1st time about 5 years after diagnosis... Guess studies have shown that cardio helps, strength training helps but together it helps the most! GL & do what you can, u r worth it!

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3/31/13 12:15 A

I would echo MissRuth's advice about getting a referral to a dietician or diabetes professional! I truly believe it was the best thing that ever happened to me...as I'm also a reluctant member of the Pre-Diabetes club. Its a real Wake Up call---and I'm glad it happened to me though it was a challenge to drop from ~170 down to low 140's. (Five years later, I'm back up about 8lbs--hence my interest in Spark!--and refocusing on where I need to be!)
The dietician taught me to respect the changes that occurred as I've aged. Yes--once my body could handle my "typical" breakfast: banana, cereal, glass of milk and NONE of those things are inherently bad. It is too many Carbs (~76g) at once for MY Body to deal with though, so the dietician helped me learn new strategies.
Your situation may need something entirely different--but rest assured you can succeed. Every positive change you make will help you stay medication free longer. If you and your Doc decide at some point that medication is best for your overall health, don't look at that as the end of the world as you know it either. Your efforts will still result in less medication and you'll be in better shape and control much longer.
Take care, and best wishes on your journey!! You can do this!!

IMSUNSHINE Posts: 153
3/29/13 9:44 A

I understand the panic and that is what put me in motion! I was told I was pre-diabetic and if I did not quit my bad habits it would be no time until I have diabetes. I have cut out sodas completely because they cause your sugar to go crazy. I don't think its wrong for you to have pie or cake but to make sure its sugar free! Good luck and keep calm!

MISSRUTH Posts: 3,734
3/29/13 7:15 A

I totally agree that you need to let go of the, do it differently for 2 weeks or 2 months thing, and then go back to the way you were before. "Before" did not work; it will not work again. It's the same thing with going on a diet to lose weight, and after you lose the weight just going back to the way you used to eat-- you'll gain the weight back. It has to be a lifestyle change to really make a difference.

And I'm also one of those, who isn't going to use a bunch of artificial brown sugar substitute or whatever, to make something "pseudo" dessert-like. So that leaves us with looking for new recipes, that use real ingredients in a way that makes something that tastes yummy but is better (healthier) for us.

Family and friends who think healthy stuff tastes blah, do not need to know the recipe is stuff that's good for us-- all you ever have to say is, It's a new recipe, what do you think. My personal fondness is for stuff that uses fruit-- even being diabetic, you can eat fruit every day (in moderation) and it's naturally sweet to begin with.

I am not diabetic but my DH is; he wears an insulin pump. He's not overweight at all and dieting and exercise are never going to change that. So you really have to look at this as an opportunity for you to learn a different way of doing things, so hopefully you'll not need medication.

Keep in mind that it is not just sugar; it is high-starch stuff like bread, pasta, potatoes etc too. The Nutrition Tracker is such a fabulous tool-- I'd say it was THE most helpful thing, in my weight loss. It can be SO instrumental for you, keeping an eye on those carbs and looking for ways to swap out what you normally eat, for something that's better for you. And as previously mentioned, exercise can make a big difference.

If you've never had a referral to a registered dietician or diabetes educator-- now might really be a good time for that.

Just as I got used to (over time) whole wheat bread and brown rice and eating less pasta-- you'll get used to eating differently as well. It isn't a life sentence to hell. You've been given a real shocker of a "wake up call"-- now the challenge is to figure out how to make some lifestyle changes that will work for you.

SIMPLELIFE2 Posts: 707
3/28/13 5:09 P

Don't overlook the value of daily exercise. If it is cleared with your doctor, you should be do something -- even just walking -- for 30 to 45 minutes *every* day. It really changes your hormone levels and how you body process carbs.

You can do it! You certainly have motivation. I have a history of diabetes in my family and was prediabetic at one time. Once you have your freakout, I know I did, you know you have to take control. I worked with my doctor as well on that and my cholesterol and still no drugs. It's hard but worth it.

BUNNYKICKS Posts: 2,329
3/28/13 2:51 P

Connie you can have a lot of fun exploring recipes of new things to cook that you and your family will enjoy as "comforts" that can still meet your dietary needs.

For example when you said "ricotta" - that got me thinking of something I made just the other day that was very delicious even to my 17-year-old Not-interested-in-diet-food son... It was simply ricotta cheese, cocoa powder, vanilla extract and Splenda, whipped smooth in a food processor (and for The Kid, garnished wish a crushed up chocolate biscuit, like an upside-down cheesecake). HOLY COW that was good - filled my desire for something "chocolate," something "sweet," and "cheeeeeesecaaake" - AND it would be "diabetic-friendly."

I also remember once making a "crustless pumpkin pie" with silken tofu (Crustless Pumpkin, Hidden Tofu? heh). Granted that one had sugar, but Splenda would work. The test was, did The Kid think it qualified as "dessert" or could he detect hints of healthiness in it? Well, it passed The Kid test, so, tah dah!

There's a whole universe of recipes out there that produce delicious, indulgent results without being total sugar bombs!

It is my personal mission to NEVER eat anything that "tastes diet." For example, the chances of me baking whole-wheat-applesauce-flax-meal-"cookies" is pretty much zero. Blech. Instead of trying to replicate "old standby" recipes with "diet substitutions" I just look for new recipes that fit the nutritional bill just as they are. Like, skip those tough spongy pseudo-cookies, and instead make single-serving-size apple crisps in ramekin dishes, for your own portion use less topping and/or sub the sugar with Splenda, tah dah, "no diet food here!" :)

PS I hope your doc's appointment results go well!!!




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3/28/13 2:28 P

Oh man, good luck. I faced this a few months ago when I only thought I had diabetes. It turned out I didn't, and so I have added back a very small amount of sugary things, but I'm talking at like 1/10 the level as previously if that as I am prediabetic regardless and have decided I just don't want those things as a regular part of my life after they've threatened to ruin it. It's gonna hurt on some levels, but it really can be done.

You may need to tell your family that you just can't cook those things for them for the foreseeable future, until they stop tempting you so much -- they can bring their own (if that's less of an issue) or do without. You'll have to figure out what works for you. (As far as wanting sweet treats, losing your taste for them really does happen, at least physically -- after 3.5 months even my tastebuds have changed to find most sweet things too sweet; and the worst physical cravings only lasted a few days.)

All the best.

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3/28/13 2:06 P

Bunnykicks is right- you sound like you are in panic mode at the thought of giving up sweets forever. I hate to be blunt, but that may be what you have to do. As a diabetic, you know that your body just cannot process sugar. Compare the loss of vision, limbs, the addition of neuropathy, and more frequent infections to eating sweets- what seems more important?

I am sympathetic. When I realized that I was not going to be able to eat huge portions of food any longer if I hoped to lose weight and be healthy, I became very sad. But to compare the momentary pleasure of food to lifelong health - no contest.

CONNIEANGEL23 Posts: 643
3/28/13 2:05 P

Thanks for your comments, I hadn't considered my appetite and tastes would adjust. I will look forward to that. In the mean time I've been looking at desserts with ricotta cheese and fruit, yogurt, etc. so will start trying some of these desserts.

I have my family over for meals at least 2 times a week sometimes more. They want there "comfort foods" and cakes and pies and I fix it for them. They stop with donuts, pizza and casseroles and it's been hard for me not to indulge. I now have a reason and deadline to work toward, so will be more motivated.

BUNNYKICKS Posts: 2,329
3/28/13 1:46 P

"Suggestions on adding pie, cake and ice cream after the 2 weeks?"

Sounds like you have some serious health issues to confront - I think you would be wise to look beyond a 2 week horizon, and work hard on refocusing your priorities to put your health as #1, and your "option/ability to eat cake and ice cream" a lot lower on that list of critical prorities!

I understand your desire to eat the "real thing" but try to give yourself time to adjust your appetite and tastes, so that ultimately E V E N T U A L L Y you can "indulge" a bit from time to time while sticking within an appropriate diet for managing your condition.



CONNIEANGEL23 Posts: 643
3/28/13 1:34 P

I had my wellness exam on Monday. I have Diabetes 2 and my A1C1 has been stable at 6.5 for 3 years. This time it was 7.5 and the doctor wanted to put me on a prescription. I am in panic. I"ve been watching what I eat, more veggies, fruits and whole wheat pasta, bread etc.but still eating ice cream and pie, etc. 2 or three times a week. Obviously that isn't working. So, I ask the doctor to give me 2 months to bring down my weight 20 pounds and my glucose levels under 140 (I test once in the morning). If I haven't, then I call him and he calls in the prescription. Here is my strategy - I am cutting out all donuts, cake, pie and ice cream for 2 weeks. Eating 5 smaller meals and following SparkPeople Diabetic tracking. Suggestions on adding pie, cake and ice cream after the 2 weeks? Forget the diet foods, when I splurge I want the real thing. Any other suggestions?

Edited by: CONNIEANGEL23 at: 3/28/2013 (13:49)
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