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UNIDENT Posts: 33,498
1/7/13 5:38 P

I, too, am sorry that you feel confronted and unable to respond when asked what your credientials are.

I assume that you must be aware that in the world there are very dodgy so-called training institutions that will offer people "qualifications" in things which are not supported by science. It may absolutely be that your own organisation and intended qualification is NOT one of them, sure! But then if so, why not let us know what this qualification is, and who through?

Your defence only suggests to me that yes, your qualification probably IS one of the shady "we believe anything that sells" organisations that does not operate on face-based repeatable scientific studies.

DRAGONCHILDE SparkPoints: (57,496)
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1/7/13 2:14 P

My spider sense is tingling. ; ) I've been quoted!

Seriously, you can't detox your body. There is no way for things you ingest through your mouth to detox you in any way. Your liver and kidneys do that naturally for you, and anything you eat or drink's going right through them anyway!

What you're drinking isn't likely to *hurt* you, but it isn't going to detox you. You will pee the same, poop the same, as if you hadn't drunk anything but plain water.

And that's not an opinion, that's scientific fact.

I think Unident was well within her rights to question your education. All education is not created equal, and you brought up your qualifications first as evidence of your knowledge. If that education is inadequate, it's certainly not enough to disprove established scientific fact. In fact, some detoxes can absolutely be dangerous and even deadly.

Some resources for you:

www.nature.com/scitable/blog/student-voice
s/the_great_8220detox8221_deception

www.senseaboutscience.org/pages/debunking-
detox.html

www.webmd.com/food-recipes/guide/detox-die
ts-purging-myths


For starters... toxins do not "accumulate" in your body. And even if they did, eating something isn't going to flush them out. It's just not possible. The underlying premise of detoxification therapies, that there are somehow toxins building up in our body that it can't get rid of, is false. Not just slightly untrue or unproven, but absolutely, measurably false.

Your beliefs are, I'm afraid, your beliefs, and I can't tell you to change those. However, you are not going to be able to post on an evidence-based website like Sparkpeople and not expect people to disagree with you.



STEPHEN_NANNY SparkPoints: (10,496)
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1/7/13 2:10 P

The SparkPeople site works well because thinking people here look beyond the 'beliefs' and anecdotal evidence to find answers that are scientific based...or at least pass the sniff test.

I am sorry that you feel defensive when someone asks you about your credentials and evidence beyond your own beliefs when you present a product or idea.

But hey - drinking water laced with funky herbs is healthier than pop - not exactly a hard sell, or a new idea.

DIETITIANBECKY Posts: 26,701
1/7/13 1:57 P

It is not what I "believe" to be true, rather what scientific research has shown.
This site uses research evidence regarding safe, appropriate, and approved weight loss strategies.

The detoxing programs do not improve health or bring about weight loss----Weight loss would occur only if you are substituting the drinking of water (a zero calorie beverage) for other calorie providing beverages or foods. Then you may be at a lower calorie intake and weight loss would occur.

SP Registered Dietitian Becky

JENMC14 Posts: 2,707
1/7/13 1:55 P

Water with additives isn't going to "detox" you. Your kidneys to that, that's what they're for. As someone, I believe it is DragonChilde, says on here a lot, "your body is not a toilet, it does not need flushing". That being said, as has been pointed out, replacing sugary sodas with water that is naturally flavored is great for you. There is a chance you will see a weight loss. not because of any magical properties of the water and the additives, but simply because you are consuming fewer calories by cutting out the pop.

BAILIERUETHER2 SparkPoints: (20)
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1/7/13 1:47 P

I am not going to argue with someone. I am just interested in the opinions of people who do believe that detox works. If you don't that is fine, but please do not question my education. I have seen what natural medicine can do for people not just myself. I believe that there are toxins in the products we eat. We have build up of many things in our system. And that is what I am trying to do is cleanse my systems. Thank you for your input Unident.

UNIDENT Posts: 33,498
1/7/13 1:43 P

Where is your certificate from? What institution?

"Toxins" are a myth constructed purely to sell detoxing products.

Taking a detox may help a person feel better (drinking water usually does), but they do not "detox" as there is no such thing as "toxins". So I would be interested to know who is teaching you otherwise...

BAILIERUETHER2 SparkPoints: (20)
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1/7/13 1:39 P

I am currently getting my certificate for Master Herbalist, and detox does help. It cleans out you system depending on what you are focusing. Detoxing also helps your immune system recharge by getting rid of all the toxins in your system. My father does a detox every so often and it cleans out his entire system. I am asking if these combinations help.

OPUSEVA Posts: 1,311
1/7/13 1:29 P

UNIDENT Posts: 33,498
1/7/13 1:29 P

'Detox' is a myth designed to sell you detoxing products. Your body doesn't 'detox' on these, but then, it doesn't need to.

Water like this won't cause weight loss in someone.

It's absolutely GREAT to replace high sugar, high processed soft drinks with naturally flavoured water! Well done! That's awesome.

But that's all it is. A naturally flavoured low-cal drink. It isn't going to detox you, it isn't going to cause weight loss. Detoxing is a myth, and weight loss comes from what you eat (although not drinking sugar soda obviously helps!).

BAILIERUETHER2 SparkPoints: (20)
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1/7/13 1:08 P

Hello, I just started a detox water with Ginger and mango, last week i did Lemon, cucumber, and mint detox water. It has helped me stop drinking pop because it gives the water flavor. Has anyone used these to help lose weight?? And if you have what others have you tried??

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