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COSMOANGEL
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5/9/13 8:04 A

I think its a sad state of affairs in the United States, when someone's weight becomes a political partisian issue. People its time to rise above and focus on moving forward. Questioning someone's leadership because they are obese, morbidly obese is pathetic because they might get sick and die when they are president is just plain stupid and perpetuates the "fat hater" attitude. The truth is anybody in public office could be struck by any medical condition at anytime...whether its a heart attack (Cheney), cancer, alzheimers(M. Thatcher, Regan) or anything else. In Canada we had a man who had cancer run for leadership and while he did not become prime minister, his participation and influence greatly changed the political climate in a positive way. Unfortunately he died after he took office as leader to the opposition. I think Chris Christie has a lot of courage to deal with this "personal issue" while in the public eye and that his key messaging around this is that he is doing it for him and his family...its not about the politics.



MARCIEMCGOWAN
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5/8/13 5:26 P

I agree it is his business. It is his health and should be protected by HIPPA.



RONIGH
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5/8/13 4:54 P

No comment, it's his business, not mine, not anybody else's.



ARCHIMEDESII
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5/8/13 1:36 P

Anarie, you've made some really good points. But having mobility issues doesn't have to impact a president's ability to do his (one day her) job. I mentioned two morbidly obese presidents i.e. Taft and Cleveland.

We have had one disabled president who was able to get around ver cleverly. Don't forget Franklin D Roosevelt. He suffered from polio which made walking difficult if not impossible. He never wanted to have a photo taken of himself in his wheelchair. If you look at newsreels, you can see how stiffly he walks. That's because of the leg braces he's wearing under his pants. He also had the bottom braces painted black to match his shoes. When we walked, you'll notice he was always arm in arm with a serviceman or aide.

Shoot, Wilson had a stroke in office and his wife signed his name on legal documents. No one was ever the wiser and well, the US is still here.

Okay, I'm nitpicking, but my point is that having a disability of any kind isn't an hindrence to being president. there are work arounds if the person is that talented.






ARCHIMEDESII
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5/8/13 1:27 P

I'm not disagreeing with the replies about Gov Christie's weight impacting his abilities to run for president or be president. Although, I do agree that his weight shouldn't be a target. Unfortunately, when a person becomes a public figure (like say Oprah Winfrey or Star Jones), their weight does come under public scrutiny.

Personally, I do not believe his weight would impact his intellectual abilities as a president. Case in point, we already have had a couple of morbidly obese presidents. Howard Taft for one. President Taft was over 300+ pounds. He was president for one term followed by his time on the Supreme Court. I'll have to read some contemporary papers, but I doubt his weight was discussed in the papers.

The second ? Gover Cleveland who was president for two non consecutive terms. He wasn't quite as large as Taft, but he was also morbidly obese. There was a time when a man's (or woman's weight) wasn't held against them. Back at the turn of the century, having some girth meant you were wealthy.


Times change. Today we are more aware of our health and we hope that our public figures do have a care for their health. However, playing devil's advocate for a moment, how many over weight doctors are telling their patients they need to lose ? How many medical professionals smoke ?! I've walked by plenty of hospitals and seen them by the side of the building smoking.

Just because a person doesn't have time for their how health does it mean they won't be professional. We're back to that misconception that if a person is overweight, they must be lazy, weak willed, lack self control, etc... Well, Chris Christie doesn't strike me as someone who is lazy, weak willed or lacks self control. he strikes me as someone who've spent more time looking after everyone else than he has for himself. That happens a lot. Doctors/nurses etc... these people spend all day taking care of us, that they don't have time for themselves.

Well, Christie is now making time for himself. I guess that's my point.





ANARIE
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5/8/13 12:18 P

There's a difference between "overweight" and morbidly obese. They call it "morbidly" obese for a reason. And it is a huge MESS when a President dies in office, and an even bigger mess if he has a stroke or heart attack that disables him.

And look at some of the video footage of Christie over the last year or so. He had gotten to the point where he was having mobility problems. You can't be a fully effective President if you can't physically get out to tour disaster sites, stand for the amount of time it takes to attend a funeral, endure long flights, or even just sit in whatever chair is offered you at a diplomatic meeting.

He doesn't have to become a fashion model. We've had overweight candidates before, and if they're men, they're not treated any differently than anybody else. But he is morbidly obese, and running for President in that physical condition would be like running for President with malignant melanoma that you refused to have treated. It's fine to have an overweight candidate; I just don't want one who has one foot in the grave.

Actually, this is one of my pet peeves. I think it's a serious problem that so many people refuse to see any difference between overweight and morbid obesity. It leads to things like a recent case where a nutrition education program was declared a failure and a waste of money because the people in it "only" lost half of their excess weight. They went from severely obese to moderately overweight, they cut their risk of diabetes and heart disease in half and their risk of cancer by a third, but because they weren't perfect, they "failed." We see the same thing with diet success rates. If someone loses 100 pounds and gains 20 back, they're listed as a failure, so you get statistics that say, "90% of people who lose weight will regain." We just ignore the fact most people who regain only regain *some* of what they lost.

Overweight is overweight. It's something we should work on, but it's part of the "nobody's perfect" end of the health spectrum. An overweight person who's active can be healthier than a thin person who's not.

Morbidly obese is a completely different category of risk. A person who weighs twice what they should canNOT be healthy. It's not unfair to say you don't want that person in a critical job where your whole nation would be disrupted if he died or became incapacitated. It's not discrimination to exclude someone from a job they can't physically perform. A person with narcolepsy can't be a truck driver; a person with morbid obesity can't be a fireman, a park ranger, an airline crew member, or President of the US.



RIET69
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5/8/13 11:15 A

I hope it works for him and I am happy he is doing what he needs to do to be healthy.



SHERYLDS
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5/8/13 9:40 A

I live in NJ and I'm glad he is our governor.
I don't think lap band surgery is the best option, but it's whatever gets you to where you need to be. Politicians spend so much time entertaining, eating, and campaigning that it will be interesting to see if the lap band works for him .



GAILRUU
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5/8/13 8:15 A

I admire him for doing what he feels is necessary for his health and his family. I hope it works well for him. I wish we had a governor in our state half as effective as he has been.



AMARANTHA120S
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5/8/13 7:44 A

I believe it is fine that he kept it discreet but he would be well aware that news is news and that his health is an issue to some people in any bid for a major political office. I actually think the health of the candidate does constitute the business of the voters. It is a non issue for me that is being reported and I wish him the best of luck in his journey.




FENWAYGIRL18
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5/8/13 1:13 A

At this point in time I don't think it should be on every major news cast about him deciding to get lap ban surgery and hearing that he kept it so hush hush. It's not our business unless he is running for President and at this point he's not.
He's been a good Governor with the weight and I'm sure he'll be just as good with less weight, I just don't think at this point in time it's a huge story. I think he should have privacy when it comes to this matter.
A lot of the headlines like weighing in on Governor Christies choice or making fun of him for getting this done isn't right, no wonder why he went in under another name and didn't tell many people.
It's his path to take and I certainly don't think that doing lap ban or bypass is taking the way out for anyone, you still struggle.
I had a friend that had the bypass and use to get rushed to the hospital all the time cause of complications , you can die from complications if you don't take eating the right amounts of food seriously, that's not healthy either . They say a lot of people get addicted to alcohol after getting these procedures done , Oprah did a whole story on this.
I wish him well whether or not he runs for President , I hope he made this decision on his own and wasn't pushed into it because of people thinking he wouldn't be a good choice if he was overweight, just because a person is thin doesn't mean they are healthy.
I wish him all the best and hope he chose this path for himself and his family that's it.



UMBILICAL
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5/7/13 11:39 P

Yes, we can't have an overweight Presidential candidate. Oh My!



ANARIE
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5/7/13 11:09 P

I agree that it actually is news. I haven't heard anyone accusing him of "taking the easy way" or any such thing (and anybody who knows anything about WLS knows that it's NOT easy.) But his weight was/is a legitimate issue for all the reasons previous posters have mentioned. He wasn't (and so far still isn't) healthy enough to be elected to national office. Maybe it's unfair that his health issue is visible and other people who are equally unhealthy can hide it, but I wouldn't vote for someone who had an obviously high probability of dying in office.



JIACOLO
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5/7/13 11:07 P

Good for him that he took his health into his own hands!



EWL978
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5/7/13 10:49 P

Run or not....he did what he felt was necessary for him and his family and I applaud him for using his smarts!!



JUDYAMK
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5/7/13 10:44 P

I agree with everything Last20forme posted. Plus I think he is a pretty intelligent guy & I would not want him to get sick he seems like someone we need around our country
Judy



LAST20FORME
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5/7/13 10:01 P

I can see that this would of course make news and I do feel he may run now and get more votes if he was not obese. I do not agree with you that his weight does not matter as far as being in office. I think it does matter once you get past overweight and far into obesity which he was. I want someone healthy to run that stressful job. I don't want him having to deal with constant medical problems or a possible heart attack for the stressful job. If he can't take care of himself how is he going to take care of the country. I would feel the same if he was addicted to drugs.



JANIEWWJD
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5/7/13 9:59 P

I'm just happy when there's good news instead of bad!!! God bless us all!!!



BUNNYKICKS
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5/7/13 9:43 P

Well it is a little bit interesting in that speculators will consider it a possible sign that he *will* take a run for the presidency.

Fact of the matter is - our business or not our business (and I agree with you, it is NOT) - his weight WOULD be trotted out as a major issue during a presidential campaign. Diverting attention from discussion of, oh, ACTUAL policies. Sad... "wrong".... but true.

Anyways, good on him. I hope he has success with this.



FENWAYGIRL18
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5/7/13 5:54 P

Okay one of the headlining news stories this morning was how Governor Chris Christie had lap band surgery and has already lost 30lbs, REALLY? You've got to be kidding with all the messed up things that are going on in the world , this was one of the major headlines on GMA and Today?
First of all we have better things to talk about , Second IT'S NONE OF OUR BUSINESS!!!!!
Everyone needs to take their own journey when it comes to weight loss, if you feel you need a bypass or lapband and you think it's right for you then you do it. If you think you can do it by tracking and exercising only then you do it.
I'm so sick of someones weight defining how good of a person he is, how good of a President he'd be.
I'm not a Republican , but I'll say this about the man he put his politics aside when it came to Hurricane Sandy just like he should of and was trying to help the people of his state, that I can certainly respect.
I got sick of hearing fat jokes about him during that trying time and now I don't think he needs to explain why he got a lap band it's the mans business not ours.
It's the path he needed to take for himself and everyone should just give him his privacy and respect his decision, it's not taking the easy way out.
There is no easy way out when it comes to losing weight , good luck to him and I hope not to hear any jokes about him taking this path it's his journey.



 
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